The fun continues over in birther land. Amazingly intolerant of anything or anyone departing from the party line, the hatriots on the birther side continue to rail against reality and demand that people unthinkingly accept their lies and myths as truth.
The amazing thing is how much the talking points are constantly parroted in a demonstration of the big lie technique. To accept their claims, you have to believe that there's a huge conspiracy covering the media, both major political parties, every single state, the entire House of Representatives, the entire Senate, the Supreme Court, Internet services, polling companies, and everything else. You need to believe the State of Hawaii is lying, the Republican Governor of Hawaii is covering up for the Democratic party. You need to believe that Indonesian law overrules US law. And that's just for starters. Rationally, a thinking person goes "show me the proof" of any of this, and the birther reply is "proof is for obots, WE know the truth!"
In addition to the usual sites I recommend, I'd like to also recommend the following site:
Very good work!
17 February - Dr. Orly's still using her Cavity Creeps to attacking her critics.
"Here is the info. This person is in AZ. Interesting, that it shows no activity as a lawyer. How does she make a living? Who pays her bills? If you recall, a person that initiated deletion of my wikipedia article had a lawyer referral agency. If you look at previous posts, it shows the link with the names of lawyers in that agency and flashing sign in Arabic. I wonder, if this Mitzi L. Torri is connected to that agency and that link. By the way, I got a translation of that flashing sign in Arabic. It was a link to a banner advertising a video of hanging od Saddam Hussein...
I am busy with the legal action and have no time for this. Can one or two volunteers follow up on that? I want to make sure that we expose each and every incident of intimidation and harassment and report those to proper authorities. We will deal with their defamatory remarks in civil actions later. "
Just when you think she can't sink lower, she grabs a shovel and keeps digging. I'm hoping the people Dr. Orly and her cavity creeps are attacking get a large industrial sized 55 gallon drum of legal whoop-ass opened on them soon.
17 February - Dr. Orly claims she's going to be on the Russian edition of the BBC tomorrow.
"BBC- oldest and largest broadcasting company from Great Britain just recorded an interview with me in regards to Obama ineligibility cases. It will be transmitted in their Russian edition tomorrow , prime time 7-8pm Moscow time, 4-5PM London time. They feel it is the case of the Century and were amazed, as to why US media doesn't report it. I explained that in my opinion most of US media is in the hands of a few members of US oligarchy that find Obama convenient for their purposes and refuse to report on his total illegitimacy for presidency. I have explained to the interviewer, Seva Novgorodski, that US President has to be a Natural born citizen, meaning being a child of two US citizen parents and born in the country."
It's funny that I can't seem to find any mention of a "Seva Novgorodski". I don't know if she's talking about Seva Novgorodsev, who does music-related programming for the radio BBC Russian Service. He also does the "BBSeva: News with a Human Face" show between 19:00-20:00 Moscow time, which matches up with Orly's claim.
Be interesting to find out a) Is this interview really taking place, b) is he planning to poke fun at Orly, or c) is he actually going to take her claims seriously?
17 February - From the inmates at "Citizen Wells"
"Fernley Girl // February 17, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I stayed up last night to listen to Coast to Coast A.M. Jerome Corsi, Alex Jones, state reps. all talking about states rights, FEMA camps, PD 51, etc. It’s worth the time to go to the site and listen to the show.
The Dow is tanking. Also was following the FX announcement while listening to the show. The sky won’t fall today, but everything is moving toward a global financial collapse, IMO. Use search term ” Gerald Celente” on any search engine and on YouTube."
Gods I MISS Art Bell. George Noory is a freaking right-wing tool
"Margie // February 17, 2009 at 12:02 pm
At this point, get a large group and make a citizens arrest. Time to get some physical action going. March, Shout, make the American Citizens heard. Stay Safe. God Bless America."
On who? You really think the Secret Service would let you do a "citizens arrest" on the President of the United States, based on the say so of some internet cranks??
17 February - Ah, Lame Cherry. One of the birthers unafraid to show both insanity and racism.
"Darwin Obama occupies the White House and is exhibiting his exact persona of the caged animal fleeing around the country in Air Force 1 as he doesn't want to be penned up as Birdie.
He will play king of the jungle until the jungles of Chicago and other areas start snarling back at him, then he will retreat to some pristine vista where he will send out chimps to chew of American faces.
Americans being sheep will probably take it. The people of Eurasia are being antagonized now worse than Pat Buchanan's screaming about George W. Bush's actions as Birdie Obama is leaving scent messages in other people's territories.
For those who think it was too graphic in stating Holbrooke pissed on the President of Afghanistan, pissing on another animal is the lowest form of insult in the animal kingdom. Barack Obama just did that.
Hillary Clinton is howling on Asian mountain tops, the same as wolves, same as tigers and leopards, and the same as the primates of the region. It all signifies to the lords of their domain that the are being challenged.
So do not be surprised Americans if in the schizophrenia of Obamaniacs if they do not start chasing the police and getting shot or if the terrorists start bringing their face chewing mayhem to Americans and we have another war on our hands.
Obama is bitch slapping people, kicking sand in their face as canines do, marking territory in pissing on resident leaders and howling from the mountain tops as he beats his chest, "I won".
Liberal Jack Hannah of the zoo needs to be called in as the Eurasian Travis is armed with weapons of mass destruction for their face chewing episode Obama is antagonizing them into. He is a creature of the 3rd world and is communicating in those terms."
17 February - The fun continues at Skippy's House o' Treason
"Good Morning all
by BlackEagle on Today, 14:08
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY
In this increasingly bizarre succession of events that have so much coincidentalism attached to them - why is Hillary's 2nd(?) stop as SOS to Indonesia? I mean cmon how many other countries could have possible been visited before Indonesia? - What relations does the US have with Indonesia that would make it the 2nd stop? Just another coincidence? - Righttttttttttttttttttttttttttt.
run narry soetoro runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn"
Because maybe she's DOING HER JOB?? Indonesia does want to strengthen ties with the US, after all.
"Re: Thks barry
by BlackEagle on Today, 14:14
...I am not wanting to be alarmist but I am try to get verification from a friend who sent me an email Saturday that this site has been ordered BANNED for access by US Government computers - the friend is a friend and he got word from a friend - have you or anyone else heard anything on this?- If I get verification today I will certainly post."
Really now. I'd like to see what category. "Hate Speech" maybe??
"Re: 02-17-2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by noyearsobama on Today, 14:50
From http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89084
This article in the WND talks about a priest in California calling for a boycott of a store selling a candle depicting Barry as a saint. The shop owners have claimed they have made thousands of dollars on these $15.00 items.
Can someone say " false prophet"?
This HAS TO STOP!!! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE ALREADY??!!"
Off hand, I'd say it's called "capitalism" and "free-market". Doesn't mean it has to be tasteful.
"Re: 02-17-2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by aussie on Today, 20:24
Wear is the information about what Mr Berg replied to the judge on Friday? I keep looking and cant find anything. all weekend I prayed that the judge will call Obama an mr Berg in today and make Obama not President anymore but I cant find Bergs filing. this is making me very ill."
Take two zantac and chill out.
17 February - Mario Apuzzo sends out a 2nd Amended Verified Complaint and a "Summons" to the defendants in Kerchner v Obama.
"Just a quick announcement and update on the case. The wheels are in motion. The copies of the federal court Summons and 2nd Amended Verified Complaint were electronically delivered to professional legal process servers yesterday morning, President's Day, February 16th, 2009, for delivery to, and official serving on the Defendants. As my client Mr. Kerchner noted to me, an ironically befitting day and an interesting footnote for history in our goal to remove this usurper from the Oval Office."
The document link for the Amended Verified Complaint is here
It's the same Berg/Taitz claims, (Kenyan birth, forged COLB, large amounts of money spent to "hide" records, Indonesian adoption & citizenship, Pakistan travel ban, etc.), along with the Donofrio "Natural Born Citizen" claims, and complaints that neither the electors, the Congress, or the Senate, paid attention to the birther's claims and demands and therefore "rubber stamped" the election.
The "Prayer for Relief" on page 69 I can already answer parts of:
1 & 2 - Moot
3 - unlikely to happen
4 - unlikely to happen at that court level
5-7 - I don't think the attempt to shift the burden of proof on the defendant will work, especially since they don't define what level of evidence the plaintiffs will accept.
8 - Again, they don't define what level of evidence the plaintiffs will accept
9 - Fishing trip
10-15 - VERY unlikely to happen
Nothing on the supposed "summons", or evidence that it was issued by a court.
17 February - It seems to some birthers, Rep. Ron Paul is STILL the "Great White Hope" to try and throw out President Obama. Case in point, this post at Bigfoot expert "Citizen" Larry Wells.
"Congressman Ron Paul of Texas never made it to the US Constitution Hall of Shame. However, Congressman Paul is of interest to the Citizen Wells blog for several reasons. Late in December of 2008, I was informed that Ron Paul had been notified of the eligibility issues surrounding Obama and that Mr. Paul was uncertain about the natural born citizen clause pertaining to the presidency. I was asked to research the natural born citizen clause. I did so and found what anyone searching the internet can find. It is clear what the intent of the founding fathers was. And yes, Vattel’s “The Law of Nation’s” obviously influenced the Founding Fathers."
So did British common law, but it doesn't mean that either British common law or The Law of Nations is part of the legal code of the United States.
"Congressman Ron Paul, I believe that you are a well meaning, decent man. However, we deserve to know why you believed that Barack Obama was eligible and why you did not at any time challenge Obama’s eligibility. "
Maybe because he looked at the tripe you and your fellow birthers sent, laughed at it, and ignored it??
Some of the inmates are still grumpy though
"JeffM // February 17, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Thanks CW,
Ron Paul should be the first to be removed from office.
He is not fit to even consider himself to be a patriot. He should have been the candidate for the Constitution Party, but was too afraid to cut the GOP umbillical.
He betrayed this country by willfully knowing a usurper was at bay.
He should be hogtied, tarred, and feathered, then run out of town on a mule."
Look twit, not agreeing with your paranoid conspiracy theories doesn't equal betrayal of one's country. Not that hatriots like you care one bit about this country or the Constitution you claim to support.
"Maddie // February 17, 2009 at 7:12 pm
I used to like Ron Paul’s “spirit,” but now I realize I was projecting something on him he did not possess. He is not our man of steel, that’s for sure."
Amazing how many of the birthers "heroes" have feet of play-doh.
"esau carin // February 18, 2009 at 9:04 am
Aside from tearing down Ron Paul , what is the purpose of this blog? Sitting in your homes complaining about the goverment is fine, but when will you take action?"
That would involve these hatriots of the 101st fighting keyboards getting off their cheetohs-covered asses and do something other than act like an internet tough guy.
17 February - And the poodle-brained Therese Daniels is cheerleading the fantasy baseball league "National Grand Jury" that has the birthers hot and bothered.
"As many patriots have sadly come to realize, we are no longer under rule of the Republic of America. An imposter and a usurper is now sitting in the Whitehouse aided and abetted by a corrupt and criminal Congress and Senate. We are now under a tyrannical government. Everything they do is illegal and unenforceable. To date citizens have had no legal umbrella upon which it can declare this coup d’état. The declaration and formation of a NATIONAL GRAND JURY which derives its power directly from the 9th and 10th amendments of our Constitution will give American citizens the sanctity and legal power to officially challenge the legality of the current government under the rules of the Constitution.
While this will not be the all powerful whip to strike down this illegal government it will give steel and motivation to other branches of government and patriots to eventually gain the power to remove this usurper from office and begin to restore America the Republic she is."
18 February - At Skippy's House o' Treason:
"Re: 02/18/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by Mop on Today, 18:02
Well, I guess Hillary Clinton drank Barry's Koolaid. She's working with Indonesian Muslims to give America a better image."
Doesn't Berg, Linda Starr, etc., talk about how much they still support Hillary Clinton??
"Re: 02/18/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by Joy on Today, 18:09
Too bad it's not the same Koolaid that Jim Jones had!!!!!!
Joy"
See above.
"Re: 02/18/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by karen1960 on Today, 19:22
Thirty freakin' days! What the H - E double toothpicks is going to happen in the next 30 days??? Something has just GOT to break soon! Any dates we need to be looking forward to here as far as the cases are concerned?? Are there any "you better reply by..." dates??"
Nope, no dates.
"Re: Stephen Pidgeon Issues a National Grand Jury Declaration
by MIDDLE CLASS GUY on Today, 20:48
Does anyone understand the legalities of this? Stephen Pidgeon states that the subpoenas issued would be strictly voluntary and cannot be enforced. Does this NGJ actually have the authority to bring indictments or is this project a symbolic gesture?"
Not even symbolic, it's complete fantasy.
18 February - Dr. Orly leaves another poopie, this one to the IRS.
I suspect the IRS is going to be less than amused.
18 February - And if anyone doubted for a second Dr. Orly's double-standards, take a look at this post.
"TO: CONGRESSWOMEN MARY BONO-MACK
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 3:53 PM
We are writing to you today to schedule an appointment with Congresswomen Mary Bono-Mack. We live in Rancho Mirage, CA, so we would want to meet with her in Palm Springs. It has come to our attention about the eligibility lawsuits regarding Pres. Obama's qualifications as a Natural Born Citizen. We have tried to reach Senator Feinstein, but she has obviously not researched this topic relying only on the information from Factcheck.com, which is a subsidiary of the Annenberg Foundation that Obama has ties to. Her response was a form letter that shows that she is not aware and does not care to be aware.
Representatives Erick Swofford, Tennesse, Frank Niceley, Tennessee, Glen Casada, Tennessee, Stacy Campfield, Tennessee, Tim Comerford, Tennessee, and Dr. Ritze, Oklahoma are true patriots and have joined in these lawsuits. The lawsuits are intended to protect our U.S. Constitution. All we are asking is for Obama to unseal his records so that we will know if he a legitimate President or a Usurper. So far, he has spend approximately $800,000 in attorneys fees blocking these lawsuits. There are approximately 40 lawsuits in various stages in the court systems.
Dr. Orly Taitz, the attorney that has filed at least four of the lawsuits has been interviewed by a Russian journalist and her interview will be heard today in both Russia and the U.K. The journalists comment was that they could not believe that the U.S. mainstream media has not picked up on this since it is probably the story of the century.
Right now we need patriots and not politicians. We are hoping that you are also a patriot that will uphold your pledge to uphold the U.S. Constitution. We would like to meet with you and let you decide if you will join this effort to protect our Constitution.
Sincerely,
(name withheld)
Posted by Defend Our Freedoms Foundation at 2/18/2009 6:09 PM and is filed under activism"
Notice the fact that she hides the names and contact info of her supporters, but NOT anyone who cares point out that Dr. Orly doesn't know what she's talking about, Hypocrite much??
19 February - And another one bites the dust. Word comes that Essk v. Obama, the pro se case brought by Kentucky truck driver Daniel Essek, was dismissed on 15 January 2009.
PDF of the order here
It's a six page order. He was granted pauper status (monthly income of $1200), and he was allowed to abandon his Freedom of Information Act request in favour of a "Natural Born Citizen" argument. The judge also cites the previous lawsuits.
"Mr. Essek is not the first plaintiff to challenge President-Elect Obama’s qualifications in federal district court. Plaintiffs raised similar arguments in Berg v. Obama, 574 F. Supp. 2d 509 (E.D. Pa. 2008), Cohen v. Obama, 2008 WL 5191864 (D.D.C. Dec. 11, 2008), and Stamper v. United States, 2008 WL 4838073 (N.D. Ohio Nov. 4, 2008). All three plaintiffs have been unsuccessful. In Berg, the court dismissed a claim brought under the Natural Born Citizen Clause on the ground that the court lacked subject matter jurisdiction to hear the suit. Berg 574 F. Supp. 2d at 519. Similarly, the courts in Cohen and Stamper dismissed citing a lack of jurisdiction. See Cohen, 2008 WL 5191864, at *1; Stamper, 2008 WL 4838073, at *3-*4. In reaching the same conclusion, this Court need not repeat the extensive findings set forth by these other courts in recent weeks and months."
End result?
"IV.
Accordingly, and the Court being sufficiently advised, it is hereby ORDERED that:
1. The Plaintiff’s Motion for Leave to Proceed In Forma Pauperis [R. 6] is GRANTED;
2. The Plaintiff’s Motion for Reclassification [R. 5] is GRANTED;
3. This case is DISMISSED; and
4. This case is stricken from the Court’s active docket.
This the 15th day of January, 2009."
19 February - The birthers are hyped over Stephen Pidgeon's "National Grand Jury" still. And they seem to have a belief that it actually MEANS something other than an exercise in fantasy legal tactics.
What gets me is the requirements Pidgeon has for jurors to play on his "National Grand Jury."
Here are the requirements to serve as a juror on a REAL Federal Grand Jury.
"To be legally qualified for jury service, an individual must:
*be a United States citizen;
*be at least 18 years of age;
*reside primarily in the judicial district for one year;
*be adequately proficient in English;
*have no disqualifying mental or physical condition;
*not currently be subject to felony charges; and
*never have been convicted of a felony (unless civil rights have been legally restored)
There are three groups that are exempt from federal jury service:
*members of the armed forces on active duty;
*members of professional fire and police departments; and
*"public officers" of federal, state or local governments, who are actively engaged full-time in the performance of public duties.
Persons belonging to these groups may not serve on federal juries, even if they so desire.
And what are the requirements to play on Pidgeon's "National Grand Jury"?
"Requirements to Become a Grand Juror
National Grand Juror candidates must meet all of the following qualifications:
*Be a natural born citizen of the United States (born in one of the fifty states of the United States to parents both of whom were U.S Citizens and resident in the United States at that time).
*Be at least 18 years old.
*Be a resident of the state that the Juror represents for at least one year immediately prior to selection.
*Exhibit intelligence, sound judgment, and good character.
*Cannot have been convicted of malfeasance in office, any felony or other high crime.
*Cannot be serving as a public official."
Notice the very first one. Not even the Nitrous Queen herself could play on Pidgeon's fantasy jury due to her being a Naturalized Citizen. If this was a real jury, it would run afoul of discrimination laws. And based on the responses, it looks pretty much designed and intended to get only a single result. More of a "kangaroo court" than anything else. Case in point, from Stephen Pidgeon himself:
"Stephen Pidgeon on February 16th, 2009 6:36 pm
Keoka:
The legal term of art “innocent until proven guilty” is applicable only in criminal prosecution. Pursuant to the internal rules of the DNC, the candidate must establish that he meets constitutional requirements to run for office - that he is a natural born citizen.
These issues have been presented over and over again. The original
“certification of live birth” - which is not a birth certificate - was a forgery. It is now well known in the blogosphere not only that it was a forgery, but also who did the forging. The revamped “certification of live birth” has also been declared to be a forgery. No birth certificate has ever been produced (that shows the hospital in which he was born, the attending physician, the signature of witnesses, etc.) although his paternal grandmother has insisted that she was present at his birth in Mombasa, Kenya (where a memorial has already been placed celebrating his birth there), and as many as three people claim to have seen a Kenyan birth certificate. There is not one hospital in Hawaii that has claimed he was born there, and there is not one eye witness to a Hawaiian birth.
The burden to establish his natural born citizen status is Obama’s. It’s as simple as producing a birth certificate. Why won’t he do it?
Because his birth certificate is a Kenyan birth certificate. There can be no other reason."
"My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts."
"tinker thinker says:
February 16, 2009 at 11:34 am
How will you keep the Obamabots from infiltrating? They are every where…
I am so grateful this is proceeding, I can qualify to be on it. Thank you for all your hard work, Mr. Pidgeon and all of you who are working on this. God Bless!"
A jury is supposed to have people that are neutral on an issue, in order to fairly judge the evidence. The birthers don't want fair, they want "guilty until proven guilty".
19 February - Bigfoot expert Larry "Citizen" Wells is upset because police in Oklahoma pulled over someone with an "Abort Obama, not Babies" bumper sticker.
On one hand, it's a free speech issue. On the other hand, I do see why people are erring on the side of caution due to hate speech and threats against President Obama.
19 February - Dr. Orly rallies the troops after her BBC Russian Service debut. She may not have made the interviewer, Viktoria Melohina, very happy. though. (translation via Google Translation)
"Dear Orly,
In connection with the BBC policy of our organization we had to submit two points of view in our program BibiSeva "pro and contra, so to your point of view we have presented another.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/russian/programmes/bbseva
Unfortunately, the music file was too large in size, so I can not send it by mail.
Still, I have to you, please, could you not give my email address to your colleagues, because I am still not able to send them all files.
With respect and gratitude,
Victoria
Viktoria Melohina"
Yeah, good way to get on the interviewer's good side. If she didn't think you were a bunch of paranoia flakes before, she will now.
19 February - Looks like "Citizen Wells" has a strong PUMA branch.
"Maddie // February 19, 2009 at 9:59 am
old Salt—Please do not put SOS Hillary Clinton in the “same” category as the Usurper—I have to object to that. She should have been the nominee all along—she has been trod on as much as the rest of us regarding the truth about Obama. I believe deep down she could be on our side when the foreign govts. question his eligibility. Please reconsider these thoughts. Also, do you remember when Pres. Clinton (in an off-hand comment to the press) spoke about BHO and questioned whether he met Constitutional requirements for POTUS. That was a long time ago now, but it really sent a message. Please reconsider Hillary. She is not a zero and may turn out to be an indirect ally in getting the country out of this Obama mess. At least consider these thoughts. Thanks."
"Please St. Hillary, save us!"
"speedy // February 19, 2009 at 10:36 am
I believe that Hillary was ripped off of her rightful votes by Obama since she is a natural born citizen and he is not. Truly it was a very unfair primary. He cheated in that primary and bussed people from other states to vote in Iowa for him. His people did such things as throw people’s votes for Hillary in the toilet. He had multiple votes by the same people. He committed a lot of voter fraud along with other frauds. The only one I see who is a zero is him. I would hope that she would become an indirect ally to expose Obama. I really want to see him removed as soon as possible. He has caused more than enough damage already in just a month. I want to feel protected by the govt and not be afraid of it. He sure puts a lot of fear into many people."
"Waaahhh The big black man scares me! Hillary, save us from the big scary black man!"
"jbjd // February 19, 2009 at 1:41 pm
speedy, even with BO’s cheating, he was still unable to beat HRC in pledged delegates counted as the results of votes cast for her in the D primary. The only way he ended up with a number of pledged delegates that would surpass HRC was that on May 31, the Rules and By-laws Committee of the DNC met and decided, had he not decided to pull his name off the MI primary ballot then voters would have (theoretically) cast these many votes for him, resulting in these many pledged delegates. Conversely, had he left his name on the ballot, HRC would have gotten less votes, resulting in less pledged delegates than she actually received. (Yes; this is what the R&B Ctte. hypothesized!) So, they divvied up the pledged delegates according to their hypothesis. Then, came the super delegates, who would have to get either candidate over the top in number of delegates. And how did BO get these to promise to vote for him? He paid them off. Literally. Here is a link to data correlating the amount of money BO paid SD’s and, resulting votes.
http://pumapac.org/2008/07/31/hustlenomics-super-delegates-listen-when-cash-is-talking/
And everyone should understand how the DNC rigged the caucuses to favor their minority candidate in the first place.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/20/the-lest-we-forget-series-the-caucus-factor/"
Ah, the PUMA party line - "Dear Hillary would have won if they had just given all the MI votes to Hillary like we demanded!!"
Not everyone there is a devotee of the Blessed St. Hillary, PUMA Warrior Goddess and Martyr though. (Bold face mine)
"oldsalt76 // February 19, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Maddie— Regarding Hillary Clinton it is time that the public saw her in her true form. Do you know anything about the Whitewater scandal in which she WAS INVOLVED. Do you know anything about her association with ROSE law firm. Do you know anything about Vince Foster who ended up dead,allegedly by his own hand, yet he miraculously got up after shooting himself in the head and threw his weapon over 20′. In addition was the mysterious deaths of 23 people who were close acquaintances of the Clintons.
NO MADDIE, I believe that there is still very much a question regarding the ALLEGED INNOCENSE of “POOR LITTLE HILLARY”, which I personally look upon as being on a par with the ongoing question regarding the eligibility of Obama.
By the way, this question also includes the sudden death of Jim McDougal, and Ron Brown as well. Over the years those of us who spent a great deal of time examining the entire matter have concluded that while we were not able to prove anything,it is not to be thought that we are any the less suspicious. There is volumes of evidence that shows her involvement EVERYWHERE."
Flashback to the 90's and the "Clinton Death List"!! Not to mention it shows the "there's no evidence but we KNOW he's guilty" mentality applies elsewhere as well.
"Margie // February 19, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I agree, the Clintons damaged the Country already. Soetoro is a criminal. When will Americans get off there butts and away from the computers? March in DC and demand Justice for our Constitution!!!"
Stay crazy Margie.
19 February - Both the FEC and Obama's attorneys file motions in Berg's original lawsuit, Berg v Obama, for the Third Circut Court of Appeals to upload the lower court dismissal.
PDF of FEC brief here
PDF of Obama attorney brief here
The FEC brief is about 38 pages, the other is 23 pages. Of particular note is the Introduction.
"INTRODUCTION
This appeal is yet another in a long line of frivolous and vexatious filings by Appellant Philip Berg. His allegations regarding President Barack Obama are patently false, but, as the district court properly concluded, even taking them as true for purposes of this motion, his suit must be dismissed: Berg lacks standing and his complaint fails to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. This Court should affirm the judgment of the district court."
And they're now bringing up his other lawsuits as argument against Berg.
"Berg has also filed numerous frivolous lawsuits and motions in other courts alleging essentially the same claims. For example, on October 31,2008, Berg filed a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari Before Judgment in the Supreme Court, as well as an application with Justice Souter for an Immediate Injunction to Stay the Presidential Election of November 4,2008 Pending Resolution of the Petition for Certiorari. Justice Souter denied the motion on November 3, 2008. A little more than two months later, on January 12, 2009, the Court denied the petition for a writ of certiorari. Then, on December 31,2008, Berg, as counsel, filed suit in the District Court for the District of Columbia on behalf of another plaintiff. See Hollister v. Soetoro, No. I :08-cv-022S4-JR (D. D.C.). In that case, Berg is attempting to use interpleader as a means to sidestep prior decisions denying challenges to President Obama's citizenship status; thus far, his motion to file interpleader and deposit funds with the court has been denied as frivolous."
19 February - As for the residents of Skippy's House o' Treason
"Re: 02/19/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by Mop on Today, 13:48
Damn these Judges..they take forever! They're scared to hear this case, because they know it's true. Worried more about themselves, than this country. Bunch of pansies."
"...why are they TAKING so LONG?? We already KNOW he's guilty, so why do these judges insist on following that whole "rule of law" nonsense?? Why don't they just give us a rope and tell us to go have fun??"
19 February - For those who speak Russian and are curious, here is the BBC Russian Service interview with Dr. Orly, dated 18 February 2009.
According to some reports, the interviewer compared it to reports of Crocodiles in New York sewers, Elvis still being alive, and JFK conspiracy nuts.
The original Russian page for the programme is here. I used Google Translate on the page to come up with this translation:
"What is Beri Sueturo or the fate of an American President
This week we learned about edakoy spicy stories originating in the United States. Orly Taytts resident of California law requires a revision of Barack Obama to occupy the post of U.S. president. Her claim supported by the Chairman of the Republican faction in the House of Representatives of the U.S. Congress Casado Glenn and three other Republican congressmen.
We contacted Orly to learn its history and also in contact with our correspondent in New York, Vladimir Kozlovsky, we have clarified the situation."
19 February - The Moonbats on Parade grand shindig, aka the "Defend our Freedoms Foundation Convention", is going to be wasting hotel space on May 8-10 in Fort Worth, Texas. For the faithful, the most important information is:
"Friday night, there will be a cash bar. You can purchase tickets for drinks.
Cash Bar tickets ($5.25 ea), With Taxes/Fees: $6.95 per drink
If you do not purchase enough tickets, you are allowed to get drinks from the hotel bar, which is near our event room, and bring them to our room."
20 February - Dr. Orly finds another sucker, New Hampshire State Representative Tim Comerford.
20 February - I suspect Dr. Orly's bigotry is still in full view, as she spins a story that Iran has enough uranium for a nuclear device into that's "why the welcome mat was rolled out for his campaign buddies in Gaza. He wanted them out of harms way. I think that is aiding and abedding."
I think you're delusional at best Dr. Orly.
20 February - And Dr. Orly has gotten her membership package and secret decoder ring in the "I Hate George Soros" club.
"I have done a lot of research on 'Dr Evil' aka George Soros. And what I learn scares the pants off of me. He is the one that bought the election for Soetoro/Obama. He has silenced the entire U.S. Government to not issue a peek concerning the non-citizenship of Soetoro, and I am afraid that he has Nancy Peloski, Harry Reid, Barney Frank and most of congress and the supreme court in his pocket.
But then I got an email today implying that my 'Dr. Evil' may have attacked our economy on September 15th. The email implied that Rep. Kanjorski of PA implied that George Soros may have done one of his ECONOMY ATTACKS to bring down another national government...in this case the United States.
As far back as January 23, 2008 Soros seemed to have his eye on the demise of the American economy. I believe he was enough of an insider in the banking industry to bring America to its knees."
20 February - Oops! I forgot to mention that Berg did file his amended complaint per Judge's order on 13 February.
PDF of amended complaint here.
First off, I'll note the fact that it's got the denial order on the first page. This usually means the birthers are going to automatically assume that it's been denied. They can't seen to grasp an order must be signed by the judge to be effective.
Pages 4 and 5 found like the legal version of "the dog ate my homework". To me, it sounds like they screwed up on the initial filing. And they seem to be blaming a lot on the clerk. This is becoming a standard birther tactic.
What gets me is the argument on page six, where Berg is saying that they didn't get a copy of the
order until the 12th??? The same order that his critics had FROM PACER on the 11th?? You would think he would be checking it even if he didn't have ECF access yet. Someone needs to spend less time on talk shows and more time attending to his profession.
Pages 7-8 are pretty much same bullshit, different day. On page 15 it even mentions that the defendants said it was the same lawsuit. This may be because they used the same words, same phrases, same allegations, and even the same evidence in it.
Page 18 boils down to "Please don't dismiss my case! I'll even rewrite it if it helps!"
Pages 34-36 are Lisa complaining about the clerk. To me it sounds like the clerk was trying to help Lisa, and Lisa was the one getting demanding and obnoxious. She was more than likely trying to tell Lisa "I can't accept this filing unless these conditions are met", and Lisa didn't want to hear that.
20 February - At Skippy's place:
"Re: 02/19/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by magna carta on Today, 05:02
So if Holder thinks we need to have frank discussions on race maybe he could ask OBAMA why his momma only slept with brown men?That's not very interactive.Could she perhaps have a bone to pick with white men?
We are living in the ANTI-WHITE MAN period."
"....But we're NOT racist, honest!!"
"Re: 02/19/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by T. Roberts on Today, 06:05
I don't know any white men who are complaining, - - they're all to busy working.
The success, surprisingly enough, came right along with it.
Don't remember many obstacles, - - except maybe the affirmative actioners getting hired first, - - but then, that has tended to be more of the employers problem in the long run, - - less qualified usually equals less output, - - not to mention the constant danger of all the discrimation lawsuits . . ."
"....But we're NOT racist, honest!!"
"Re: 02/19/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by T. Roberts on Today, 03:57
Good job, then, - - they argue the same points that have been discussed for months endlessly. They demand proof for every little thing but the biggest hoax in centuries. They have no real doubts they're wrong, - - but have the job of swaying/discouraging fence-sitters, - - and taking up valuable revolt time of those us who are serious in saving this country from a crippling globoligarchy . . "
Awww. Is po lil birther getting cranky 'cuz those mean old "obots" keep demanding they show evidence that birther claims AREN'T a bunch of hooey?? Does snookums need a nappy and a binkie?? Awww....
"Re: 02/19/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by Linda Starr on Today, 04:14
BRAVO Robi! You sure told it straight on. This is NOT a racial issue, it is an American citizenship issue. I get tired of the excuses because of race. How about I blame the fact that I am a woman for not having the right to become president? Women are the new black, but we aren't looking for excuses. Women just want a fair chance and equal playing field without all the HOURLY misogynistic hate speech, but once again the Black man beats out the woman because he might be disadvantaged for five seconds and never mind that women are always disadvantaged. Misogyny is alive and well in America, but you better not even tell an Obot joke or we're making race comments. Give me a break. I'm so sick of the race crap. "
"....But we're NOT racist, honest!!"
Hint - a woman has the same right to run and attempt to become President as any other qualifying citizen of the United States. The voters DID NOT CHOSE HILLARY CLINTON. It has nothing to do with her gender, and everything to do with the voters believing Barack Obama would have made a better candidate in the General Election than Hillary Clinton. And they were right. That's not to knock or downplay Hillary Clinton's skills, something Barack Obama saw when he picked her as his Secretary of State.
"Re: 02/19/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by BgDmSWEDE on Yesterday, 21:50
The vote for Obama -
Black = 96% racist, pure and simple
Latino = 67% promised more handouts and amnesty
Asian = 63% race?
Age 25-29 = 69% dumb
Age 18-24 = 68% dumber
1st time voter = 72% dumbest
Farleft = 100%
You gots to calls it as you sees it. They couldn't have done it without the dumb racist vote!"
"....But we're NOT racist, honest!!"
"Re: 02/19/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by magna carta on Yesterday, 22:17
JBH and others who have the CA experience of watching the "foreigner Arnold" screw up America...I feel your pain.I'm in Houston.I was working with USBorderwatch to chase illegals off of parking lots for two years.Just the TRASH that accumulates in the streets in former pristine communities with little old ladies and window boxes makes me wanna scream!! Where are those tree-huggers!!The Jacobins are what we see in power,not even Democrats.When I look into the face of my four year old son,I know I gotta keep up the fight.I have my Come and Take it flag and I bought the chopped snake flag by Franklin "Join or Die" flying real high right now.My car is loaded up with bumper stickers too.I hope the stock-traders will hit the streets soon,then its everyone,Joe Arpaio included.I see liberalism in general as a luxury of moral back-rubbing that we can no longer indulge in.Its down to the wire now...
BoBo I love your park bench idea...GOOD ONE!"
"....But we're NOT racist, honest!!"
"Re: 02/20/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by dafrog on Today, 07:06
Well, this post will most likely get me banned from here, even though I have been here for months before I registered, which was back in Oct I believe. Usually, if people go off the subject, they are warned.
Anyway, this is for linda, I understand you are under stress as are the rest of us, but I think you are getting a bit out of touch with reality. Your constant Bush bashing and bashing of any party that wasn't your's is getting old. Look at the facts, the economy was in good shape BEFORE the dems took over congress. The changes that were not made several years ago were of the dems, not repub. In fact the repubs tried to get banking regs changed but the dems wouldn't go for it. As for being warmongers, it was dems that got us unto WW1, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia. As for Iraq, it never would have happened if it had been just the repubs. You can use the excuse of "lies" told, but all the congressmen and senate, heard the same intel.
What I am getting to is that you are starting to sound just like the Obots who deny anything that they don't agree with.
So, what I am saying is, please, keep on the fight against the usurper, but mellow out on the Bush hating."
Some of the birthers getting cranky because they have to tolerate the *gasp* LIBERAL birthers in the crowd??
"Re: 02/20/2009 Daily Discussion Topics
by Albert on Today, 07:24
dafrog
Please apologize to Linda. We all love Linda. She is a true Patriot. She has earned her right to express her feelings. Linda is simply telling us all how she feels and telling us her innner true feelings. It is not correct for anyone to say that she should not feel the way she feels.
If you feel differently then say so. But please do not attack Linda. Just express your feelings about the political situation. And please express your true inner feelings.
Peace"
Birther fight!
"Re: OBAMA'S Certification of Live Birth DOES NOT EXIST!!!!
by Trish on Today, 13:43
Hey Everyone, No subject title for this post but you need to watch Glenn Beck today. Important Show. Plus I found out that the military is telling all the military families to stock up on at least 16 months worth of food supplies. I will start today!"
Wow. The voices inside your head are particularly loud today.
New NH rep joining the Orly case apparently does not believe in the 5th amendment while advocating a return to Jeffersonian principles.
"Dear Ms. Carter,
Thanks for your kind words of support. It has become clear that the Congress is derelict in duty (not reading the porkulus bill), the federal government ignores the Constitution, and the President acquiesces to it all. The Supreme Court, in refusing to have the President prove his qualifications for office through his citizenship, is doing a great disservice to this country. If there is ANY question to the status of the person holding the highest office in the land, it must be throughly reviewed, not swept under the rug. Why would Obama be so resistant to providing all records if he has nothing to hide? Silence and lawyer threats are tantamount to a tacit admission of guilt.
Please also read NH HCR6: Affirming States Rights Based on Jeffersonian Principles
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legisla ... R0006.html
I am a co-sponsor. This measure seeks to place the federal government within its original Constitutional bounds. With the push toward socialism, and the ignorance of the courts, we need this now more than ever.
In Liberty,
Rep. Tim Comerford
New Hampshire House of Representatives
Rockingham District 9 (Epping/Fremont)"
Posted by: Obot 1024 | February 20, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Birthers may hate Obama, but the usurper's popularity in Cananda was helpful in recent talks plus over 20 countries have offered to help US in Afghanistan, not bad for Obama's first 30 days, not bad for a usurper!
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Up_to_20_nations_offer_to_boost_Afg_02202009.html
Posted by: vma224 | February 20, 2009 at 03:22 PM
Adam has now joined the victim list of the harassment campaign from the birthers.
Ed Hale posted some of Adam's email exchange with Ritze including Adam's email address.
He then writes.
"We are hurting teh OBOTs and now they are starting with their lies
Everyone please lock down this email box with 1000's of email telling this OBOT where he can go. We have millions behind Dr Mike also. Dr Mike has took on the ledership roll to stop this stupid O and his OBOTs and now they know that he is leading the charge and will cross the finsih line ahead of them."
Following there is a post with Adam's address, phone number, relatives and a photo.
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/983048
Maybe Adam should talk to JD Georgetown
Posted by: Obot 1024 | February 20, 2009 at 05:16 PM
So I went a dug out my hospital birth certificate (which isn't a legal document, btw), and it only has the signature of the attending physician, and doesn't list witnesses or the nurse, or any of the other nonsense that the birthers demand. My long form COLB (which is the legal document) only lists the hospital I was born at and information on my parents. The short form from my state LA. lists even less. I seriously question what these people expect.
It is my feeling that if given the information about the attending then they would use it to harass him or her; and then simply claim it was a conspiracy.
Nevertheless I am sure birthers would claim my certificate is fake or not legal....wait, oh yeah they already have just from my description.
Posted by: jayray | February 20, 2009 at 05:46 PM
State's Rights = George Wallace Redux. Anyone remember him?
As I sit here and watch the Republican (?) party eat itself alive throughout the country, I am heartened that we DO NOT live in a country that demands I believe as they believe. We are NOT a theocracy, folks, and our founding fathers were VERY clear about that. We see what happened with the Taliban.
Posted by: sunkawakan | February 20, 2009 at 06:18 PM
"Maybe Adam should talk to JD Georgetown"
Adam -- send an email, prefereably to my office email addy. I will be heading to Atlanta this weekend for hearings on Mon and Tuesday, but we can set up a time to talk. I can explain the legal stuff that you should be considering.
GJD
Posted by: GeorgetownJD | February 20, 2009 at 07:15 PM
Anyone watching Countdown? Olbermann's 1st story was Obama conspiracy theories, including the Birth Certificate.
No Orly, but Alan Keyes made an appearance.
The consensus was that desperate pathetic crazy people are only suitable for ridicule. As long as they don't descend into actual violence.
Posted by: Wonk | February 20, 2009 at 08:15 PM
OBAMA HAS LEFT THE BUILDING
Please forgive my curiosity and inexperience with Internet forums, but what is the purpose of this site? I haven’t quite established whether the term troll means some sort of spy or just someone with an opposing viewpoint (?) nor what a PUMA or anti-Puma means, but the negative vent here is clear enough, and astoundingly silly.
The address of this web site implies some positive aspect of democracy, but one finds nothing close to positive or educated debate: its just filled with hate and its only endless focus seems to be belittling those on other sites or any who disagree or even question a mandated conclusion of the tread. The discussion appears to have long ago reached the conclusion that BO is a NBC. Ironically it is appears to be derived from a living interpretation of the Constitution yet defended as current and undisputable fact with Originalist theory. Whoops. At any rate, does not the posture of this site contradict the concept of democracy? Individual thinking is one of the greatest strengths of an open democracy, but unfortunately its not embraced by Yes to Democracy.
I think I know understand how both sides of the debate can reach opposite conclusions, conceding that most of the Birthers claims are false, unfounded and some downright absurd, but that is to be expected given the amount of albeit irrelevant information left to conjecture. I’ve attempted to allude here that the issue could be diffused and resolved, legally and without chaos, and without anyone losing their job, but no one seemed interested in reaching resolution, just in continuing the pissing contest.
So I get it, you all feel that the Birther crowd is tantamount to deluded Elvis fans that refuse to believe that the King is dead. So by juxtaposition, this site, while widely amusing, is the equivalent of Elvis impersonators with indignant regard for those unwilling to mourn their leader. But surely you realize that maintaining this site just lends credence to your opponent’s arguments, highlights the reservations of your conviction, and exposes your underlying fear.
Alternatively, perhaps this site is simply a diversion intended to lead to the backwater of Internet effluent as entertainment, the metaphorical exercise of holding the Presidential johnson. Surely the President is capable of holding his own, at least for this private task, and lets all hope for all public tasks.
While up to a point you are to be commended for defending the President, and its always good to hear people express their views, one would think its high time to move on into developing constructive ideas, of which there are many that need to be addressed on the tough journey ahead. Your King thanks you for your service, but its time to wash your hands and get back to work on something meaningful.
Posted by: woodduck | February 20, 2009 at 09:14 PM
woodchuck, thank you for your comments, now be a good little boy and say goodbye
Posted by: richCares | February 20, 2009 at 09:44 PM
Okay,I try it your way; have fun stirring your turds rich, I realize its easier than using your brain. Something tells me you were still crapping your diapers during the 60's, or haven't lived long enough to develop a brain.
Posted by: WoodDuck | February 20, 2009 at 10:29 PM
WoodChuck -- Was there a point to all those words you just typed?
Since you don't know what a forum is or what this site is about, I strongly encourage you not to lecture the people who actually do.
Take some time and read up on the Internet. It's a wonderful tool, and you can do all kinds of keen things on it once you learn how your browser works and how to use a search engine.
Stop by again after you get off AOL.
Posted by: StrangeAppar8us | February 20, 2009 at 10:37 PM
I could wile away the hours
Conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain
And my head I'd be scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain
Wizard of Oz
Posted by: richCares | February 20, 2009 at 10:52 PM
yes- I asked a question in my first sentence. I've looked at some other sites, and they usually have some information and explanation of what their about. I click the button labeled "main" at the top of the page, but it just reloads this page. Maybe something is wrong with my friends computer. I'll ask him when he gets back next week. What does AOL stand for? Is it like the Crusty tool?
Posted by: WoodDuck | February 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Woodchuck’s disjointed comments sound a lot like Keyes, hey Alan is that you?
A song for woodchuck: (tune of Puff Magic Dragon)
Dear Mr. Babble, babble all you want, it makes no sense and we don’t know what you even want. Puff the magic dragon, he babbled too, but unlike you he made lot of sense. So babble other places where babbleze makes sense, it doesn’t here, don’t waste your time, it’s babble free you see!.
you didn't come here to ask question, but to babble about both sides when only one is valid. That is a standard wingnut feign. re you from WND?
Posted by: vma224 | February 20, 2009 at 11:11 PM
WoodChuck -- If you're new to the Web, you'll find a useful tutorial at www.timecube.com.
Posted by: StrangeAppar8us | February 20, 2009 at 11:32 PM
woodduck
You said with eloquence, what I've attempted to say a few times. So many better ways to spend one's time. :) It's like standing in a mad dog kennel here. This website has changed it's focus and format in the past. Let's hope it does so again. I'm burnt out on the topic. You don't even need to know precisely what this site is focused on in order to see the obvious fact that it's counter-intuitive to it's name and is simply a place for dogs to bark.
I'm going to go wash my hands as you had suggested. I'll be around, not everyday but every week or two unless the format/focus changes.
Posted by: David | February 20, 2009 at 11:46 PM
WoodDuck wrote:
I haven’t quite established whether the term troll means some sort of spy or just someone with an opposing viewpoint (?)
Having been participating on online forums for over 25 years (online forums were around before the Internet), "troll" had traditionally meant someone who said rather outlandish things for the sole purpose of trying to get a rise out of others in the forum.
In other words, a troll is just there to fuck with people, and not engage in any sort of sincere discussion.
However the term has come to be used as an ad hominem attack hurled at anyone who doesn't agree with them.
The discussion appears to have long ago reached the conclusion that BO is a NBC. Ironically it is appears to be derived from a living interpretation of the Constitution yet defended as current and undisputable fact with Originalist theory. Whoops.
I don't see that it's been defined as any sort of "living interpretation."
Would you care to clarify what exactly you mean by this?
se
Posted by: se | February 21, 2009 at 12:00 AM
@se,
Back in the BBS days? I am just asking, because it is interesting to me; and in some ways it is hard to conceptualize a time in which one would have to dial into a BBS to make comments. I love studing old computer systems and stuff, and was wondering what kind of hard ware existed when the first use of the term troll came about.
Posted by: jayray | February 21, 2009 at 12:10 AM
hey StrangeAppar8us, you owe me a new keybord, I went to that timecube site and the spilled coffee destroyed my keyboard I laughed so hard. It's a Birther's dream site. yes woodchuck would fit in well.
I watched that Olbermn show with Keyes, their main point was that Keys view is so out of wack about all you can do is make fun of him. I was in Chicago when he ran against Obama, Keyes was a laughing stock then as well as now.
want to hear another funny one "You said with eloquence" statement was made about woodchunk, big laugh there! Babble is eloquence, who would have known.
Posted by: richCares | February 21, 2009 at 12:13 AM
"what kind of hard ware existed"
in order of poularity
TRS 80 (radio shack)
PET (commodore)
Apple
was a great way to share ideas, in my case that's how I learned to program in C, my medical school friend used it to share research with UCLA med center
early keyboards typed in uppercase only (now we call that shouting)
I wrote a billing program back then that used Julian Dates (which can add or subtract dates for aging) which meant the Y2K issue was phony. Later dBase became popular which stored date as a string "19361001" which was converted to Julian or to calendar as required. That's going back some! BBS phone bills got too high at my house.
Posted by: richCares | February 21, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Adam here. Looks like they found me. Although WHO's address is that? They think the world is so small only must be one Adam Cox in Tennessee? I guess they put up another random victim in their attack.
I apparently ruffled some feathers with a couple emails I sent Mike -- the following is the contents:
from neurofryk@yahoo.com to Mike Ritze:
"We're just telling you the truth - You've weaseled your way into a legal battle you simple cannot win. You scumbags are the ones trying to intimidate and harass, posting peoples private info on your websites .. We are going to LOVE seeing the reaction of your constituents when they find out you were involved with this unethical behavior. I promise you, Mike, When election time comes around again for you - Your opponent will be equipped with some VERY incriminating evidence against you."
and also, my 2nd email: (add on)
"There is already a vigorous campaign to expose you for the fraud that you are to your
constituents. You will never hold political office again --You'll be going down like Orly, who is about to have her Law License revoked."
I realize it's a bit more hard liner than might be condoned here but so hardlined as to be considered a THREAT? LMFAO! Birtho whackos have sent me e-mail responses saying they've forwarded my E-mail to Ritze to the FBI because they consider it a PHYSICAL threat to an elected official. WOW these people are insane. I'll gladly post their pathetic responses , just tell me where.
BTW birthers who wanna track me down and do harm upon me: I also strongly agree with the 2nd Ammendment. Bring it on at your own peril!
-neurofryk@yahoo.com
Posted by: Adam Cox | February 21, 2009 at 12:43 AM
To GeorgetownJD:
If you don't mind, send me an e-mail at neurofryk@yahoo.com ...
I'll gladly provide you any info you request.
Posted by: Adam Cox | February 21, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Wow, I had Time Cube bookmarked 4 years ago. It's gotten much worse.
LOL
Posted by: John Dean | February 21, 2009 at 12:52 AM
I emailed that Mike Ritze as follows:(no threats)
Congratulations on joining Orly Taitz on her quest
here is link to Supreme Court Docket on her last case
http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a524.htm
that's all I sent!
that link is to the "Denied" Taiz case on Supreme Court site, he may not like "Denied" but may get the hint
Posted by: richCares | February 21, 2009 at 01:06 AM
"Adam here. Looks like they found me. Although WHO's address is that? They think the world is so small only must be one Adam Cox in Tennessee? I guess they put up another random victim in their attack."
wow, they got the wrong address, what does that other Cox think of all this, Orly and her Fans are complete Idiots, that may look nice in court!
Posted by: vma224 | February 21, 2009 at 01:09 AM