It's been an interesting weekend in birtherstan. Artificial Ginger Devvy Kidd plans to take her vote and go home unless the GOP gives in to the birtherstani. Professional seditionist Sharon Rondeau notes it's been two years since Walter Fitzpatrick was first ignored. Dr Kate explains why the birther bills are failing (hint - it's a conspiracy).
Darren Huff is told "no" by the courts. Fun is made of the birthers. The birthers are upset that even Michelle Bachmann won't play their reindeer games. Georgia State Rep. Hatfield is called out on his flip-flopping, though it seems he may be more of a hard core birther than he claims.
The Pest and eFail calls for the "Retaking of America", including citation of statements from Confederate breakaway states. Sharon Rondeau spends an entire page saying nothing about Mike Huckabee. Dr. Orly demands that the Georgia Speaker of the House do her bidding right this very second.
Birther report continues the fine birtherstani tradition of "state officials = unreliable. convicted felons and forgers with a history of running scams = reliable". Neil Turner seems to be following the orders of the secret cRAP masters. Two other Georgia State Rep have birtherstani ties. President Obama has fun with birthers, courtesy of the United States Marine Corps. (I'm waiting for Bob Pinkstaff's head to explode with rage).
Theresa Cao seems to have problems following the advice of people who are trying to help her. And Charles Kerchner has his own mad-on about how DARE the Georgia State Assembly not immediately do what he commands.
26 February - Haven't seen much of bottle redhead and conspiracy nutjob Devvy Kidd of late.
"The Democrats are playing a false game because Obama/Soetoro is not going to get ballot qualified in a large number of states either via legislation or lawsuits."
Wouldn't that mean actually getting birther bills passed? So far their track record is about the same as the birther's record in the court system. Not to mention that whole "unconstitutional" thing.
"There is yet another Obama/Soetoro citizenship case coming up for conference by the U.S. Supreme Court."
Ah yes. The Hollister v 'Soetoro' reconsideration. Which was, of course, a "no"
"Ron Paul recently voted to condone bowel movement sex for our military; allowing sexual deviants to openly serve. This is one of the most destructive votes ever affecting our military; second to Bill Clinton's success in getting 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' shoved down our throats. I always give credit where credit is due, but I will not excuse any incumbent for cowardice when it comes to making tough decisions or votes promoting filthy, dirty and immoral behavior in our military."
Someone's got a whole lot of issues here.
"I will not vote for any incumbent in Congress who was there on January 9, 2009. That is the day that will go down as one of the greatest acts of cowardice by the U.S. Congress in history.
On that day, despite the massive public outcry over Obama/Soetoro's ineligibility to run as president, not a single male or female in that entire body had the guts to stand up and stop the electoral college vote count. "
By "massive public outcry" she means "a batch of letters and demands from a flock of crazed conspiracy cranks"
"SHAME on Michelle Bachmann, Saint Sarah Palin, Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck for their dismissal of Americans who demand adherence to the U.S. Constitution regarding presidential qualification. That also includes Rep. Jeff Flake and Rep. John Boehner. Boehner passes off his cowardice with wimpy responses like, "I'll take the president at his word." That doesn't cut it, Johnny."
Scary when even that crowd isn't crazy enough for the birtherstani.
8 March - A YouTube video about the "Let's pull our cars over to the side of the road for an hour" rally.
They don't want much, do they?
11 March - Professional Seditionist Sharon Rondeau marks two years since court-martialed ex-Navy officer Walter Fitzpatrick broke out his USNA stationary and wrote his little treasongram about Obama.
"Although Fitzpatrick was visited by members of the Secret Service whom he believes are aware that Obama is not constitutionally eligible for the office he holds, the complaint itself has never been addressed."
Maybe because it had the same legal validity as a Candy Land game/?
"Fitzpatrick has told The Post & Email that as a retired member of the U.S. military, he is subject to recall and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). "
And the US military would have to be REALLY freaking desperate to recall a court-martialed ex-Officer who made fast and loose with his ship's finances.
"He stated that he should have been jailed for mutiny if the accusations identified in the complaint had been proven false."
No, because despite Fitzpatrick clinging to his old uniform like a favourite blankie, he's a civilian, and no longer in the US military.
"Following the filing of Fitzpatrick’s complaint, a group of private citizens from the state of Georgia personally served presentments naming Obama in the act of treason to sheriffs, U.S. attorneys, district court judges, the Speaker of the Georgia House of Representatives, and the Georgia Secretary of State. One of the citizens was visited by the Secret Service, but the complaints were never addressed"
There is a reason I called them the "fantasy tiddlywinks league"
"Beginning in April 2009 and continuing into 2010, at least 166 American Grand Jury members indicted Obama for fraud, election fraud and treason and delivered presentments throughout the country to judges, courts, district attorneys, attorneys general and governors. One response was received from Judge Royce Lamberth of the U.S. District Court in Washington, DC, which stated that presentments from citizens are not actionable by the courts despite their inclusion in the Fifth Amendment of the Bill of Rights."
The funny thing is they were told - repeatedly - that their fake "grand juries" had no legal validity. Which made their complaints that they were ignored even funnier.
"Of his two-year-old complaint against Obama, Fitzpatrick told The Post & Email, “It’s time to use the word ‘treason’ everywhere. If enough people get behind a treason complaint, that would exonerate Theresa Cao and Lt. Col. Lakin, who sits in prison tonight. Putting Lakin in prison was treason. Obama is replacing our constitutional government with another form of government, and that’s treason.”"
Oh, I see treason. But the people committing have names like Rondeau, Turner, Fitzpatrick, Huff, etc.....
"On March 10, 2011, LCDR Fitzpatrick was a guest on the Paul Revere Radio Show hosted by Rick Johnson, during which Fitzpatrick detailed why he wrote the complaint, where he delivered it, and how he inadvertently discovered and exposed the endemic corruption within his county grand jury and judicial system."
By which he means "wahh, they didn't take me seriously!!"
Oh look. Another rally,
"Jo-Ann Wulf says:
Sunday, March 13, 2011 at 3:06 AM
Army Brat ~ I think it is set for July 4,2011 for a big patriot march in Washington, D.C. They are saying it will be at least one million strong. I certainly hope it is at big and even bigger. "
So three digits, four digits, or five?
"This cat and mouse game has went on far to long. We have people like Rep. Bachmann coming out saying cute things like if she was running for President she would first thing prove her citizenship.I have told her it is not her citizenship in question"
Of course not. She's white and a fundementalist Christian.
11 March - Dr. Kate has an idea as to why the birther bills seem to be failing. And no, it's not because they're obviously unconstitutional and violate the full faith and credit clause.
No, it's because the states are being bribed you see....
"Continuing to thwart the United States Constitution and the people’s will, the Obama-Jarrett administration appears to be bribing the states considering eligibility legislation. Already Georgia* and New Hampshire’s eligibility bills will be postponed to 2013, clearly to protect Obama. And although there are signs of improvement in the language of the Arizona bill, what do you want to bet that will be postponed too?"
For a "constitutionalist", she doesn't have much use for the Constitution.
"The way the bribe is being set up only reinforces our own research that Congress is engaged in the cover up of the usurpation."
Translation - "Wahh, Congress hasn't gotten rid of the scary black man, wahhh!"
And her solution:
"The States need to stand up against this tyranny…and begin to refuse federal funding for such projects. Remember who you will see bussed in to cause riots–Obama ‘for’ America–paid thugs designed to stop the public from seeing the truth."
This coming from a woman who spent her life trying to get federal money for watershed projects. Granted, that was while a safe white guy was in the White House, not the scary black man....
As for the maturity level of the floaters in her cesspool...
"True Patriot March 11, 2011 at 7:50 pm
I am beginning to believe the bastard may have hatched out of a Jackyl he is so demonic and evil.
And Jackyls can’t get U.S. Citizenship!"
"Quantum Leap March 11, 2011 at 10:35 pm
He hatched out of a herd of obots asses."
And look who may have shown up to defend himself, (assuming Dr. Kate isn't being pranked)
"Rep Mark Hatfield March 11, 2011 at 11:33 pm
You seem to be the “tool,” pal. I am one vote in a House of 180 representatives. I have a bill I’ve been pushing for 2 years, all the while receiving all kinds of nasty emails and phone calls from the Obamunists. I’m not part of the leadership, I’m in the rank and file. The GOP leadership of the House adamantly refuses to move the bill, and we have less than a week to go before the bill is dead for the year. Do I just let it die, like so many other states have? Or do I try some offer of compromise to try to get it dislodged from committee, on the House floor for a vote, and then on to the Senate where the bill’s effective date could be amended? Maybe you wouldn’t proceed that way and you’d prefer that the legislation just die. I can tell from your brilliant post that you are a real genius, but I just don’t see it that way.
In any event, it doesn’t matter. The leadership still refuses to move the bill. And people like you, who could help by calling or emailing the House leadership, are instead wasting time making snide remarks about me (!) on this website.
I’ve got a few questions that you can perhaps answer for me, “baby”: where was your big mouth before today? What have you been doing to help get the legislation passed? Nothing? That’s what I thought. Now go back to eating your Cap’n Crunch and let the grownups get back to work."
Dr. Kate later left this message on it:
"drkates note: This person is impersonating a state official, and he has been reported to his ISP provider for abuse. This is an example of a spammer who uses comments on this site to make bogus accusations in other forums. I choose to leave these comments in entirety because they show the ‘new form of the obots’ as they continue to try to defeat the Constitutionalists."
Dr. Kate seems to be swilling down other conspiracies as well
"drkate March 11, 2011 at 10:15 pm
OT, but related to Heather’s articles. Morgellons disease is related to chemtrails… from the article:
http://www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm
Morgellons – A disease in which individuals have the growth of fibers from their skin that burn at 1,700 degrees F and do not melt. (20) A private study to determine the chemical and biological composition of these fibers has shown that the fibers’ outer casing is made up of high density polyethylene fiber (HDPE). The fiber material is used commonly in the manufacture of fiber optics. There is no history of the individual in that industry or coming into contact with this material. It was further determined that this material is used throughout the bio nanotechnology world as a compound to encapsulate a viral protein envelope, which is composed of a viron (1/150th times smaller than a virus) with DNA, RNA, RNAi (mutated RNA) or RNAsi linear or ring plasmids for specific functions. (21, 22) Toxicological pathology identification of tissue biopsies from an individual diagnosed with Morgellons revealed the presence of continual silica or glass tubules with the presence of silicone. (23) It must be noted that the core toxicological effects of silicone alone have been demonstrated throughout the breast implant industry and litigation cases. (24, 25) Furthermore, silicone cannot make silica, but silica or silica bicarbonate can make silicone through natural cellular interaction in a biological system. The subject did not have breast implants or any other implant or silicon glue injections."
"Morgellons" is actually a form of "Delusional parasitosis"
And then there's
"True Patriot March 12, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Yes Liberals are soul less demonic evil creatures spawned from Hell.
When the peanut brain idiot Jimmy Carter founded the Dept of Education my entire family said there goes the school system, another $#@%ing jobs program.
The illiteracy in this country is at its highest ever, all kids do now is text back and forth and play video games. You rarely see them out playing basketball hoops in their yards, or throwing a baseball. This has all be planned by these Communists Marxists to bring down America, but what they did not realize is how we Patriots are fighting back.
We do not back down, and we deal with facts. Liberals are in la la land wanting to sing Koom Bah Ya, preaching love and peace, while acting out violence and rioting like the Unions.
This is duplicity at its best, yet now they have put our country and our future generations in harms way once again but trotting out an illegal communist marxist muslim usurping fraud and Jihadist named Obama, as far as we know.
And still today they defend him because he is what they all stand for, but like QL said if we fall, they fall. They think it only will happen to us. This is what their idea of love and peace is.
There are 2 New Age stores that sell candles etc with a sign in the window love and peace, but when you walk in there are signs of hatred for all Republicans with foul language that I will not repeat. Now they are both going out of business and you guessed it blaming George Bush. I just had to go in to let them know their fraud and Jihadist is doing this, and whoever they are praying to it ain’t working!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
The blind hated for anyone who dares have an opinion different than theirs is pretty impressive.
11 March - And the court rules on Darren Huff's request to dismiss the charges against him.
(Scribd link here)
"After carefully considering the motions, memoranda, oral arguments, and relevant legal authorities, the Court finds no basis to dismiss the Superseding Indictment. For the reasons set forth herein, it is RECOMMENDED that the Defendant’s motions to dismiss the indictment [Docs.30, 31, 32, and 34] be DENIED"
11 March - It's always fun when someone gives the birtherstani the respect they deserve. Like this parody article in "Unsolicited Drivel"
"Unsolicited Drivel spoke with one birther, Cletus Kalani, about their Tsunami plans. He told us,
“Well, you see, we got a text message from Orly Taitz overnight telling it was our patriotic duty to keep them Obama birth records from stayin’ dry. Sure we could be evacuatin’ and savin’ our lives all, but Orly said it’s more important to make sure Obama’s birth certificate evacuates first. We figured with the budget crisis and all, the government probably ain’t got no plastic bags down at the courthouse, so they’d be running out to the nearest store to buy ‘em some to save the Obama papers. So the plan was to buy up every plastic bag at every store within a 15-mile radius. Except at the Dollar Store of course. That’d be a mute point as their bags be disintegratin’ while you be waitin’ in line to pay for ‘em.” "
12 March - The birtherstani are upset at Michele Bachmann for daring to quip about her showing her birth certificate.
"Michele Bachmann, you are a fraud. Your quip about releasing your birth certificate should you decide to run for president should land you in prison for treason, as it demonstrates that you are fully aware of the constitutional crisis in which we find ourselves.
Yet you do nothing."
To be fair, Bachmann has a lot of wingnut lunatics to pander to.
"There are tens of millions of people clamoring for justice"
Read as "a handful of cranky nutcases upset because they don't like the winner of the 2008 Presidential Election"
"...due to the high probability that Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro is not eligible to the office of the presidency."
Based on a handful of long-since disproven conspiracy theories and some creative attempts at rewriting the Constitution.
"And you, Ms. Bachmann, make a quip about the birth certificate to pander for votes?"
Because she'll pander to any far-right groups that catch her attention??
12 March - Georgia Politico talks about State Rep Mark Hatfield's......flip-flopping shall we say.
"I’m sorry sir, but you need to carry out your crazy as you originally proposed. If you are truly worried about Obama’s citizenship, then put your bill forward unaltered and stand on your principal. If not, then STFU and try to write a bill that will create a job in this state.
Of course, he doesn’t believe in Birtherism – he just dislikes the President… Passionately. Last year, he signed Articles of Impeachment against Attorney General Thurbert Baker because he wouldn’t sue the federal government over the health care legislation, Obama’s signature legislation. Baker did nothing wrong by not suing the federal government, so Impeachment was a political sham… as is his birther bill."
12 March - An article with the title "The Retaking of America and what you can do to help?" Why yes, it is the Pest and eFail.
(Bold face mine)
"That our country and its federal government have been taken over by anti-American and unlawful forces should no longer be a surprise to anyone who has been alert and who has been paying attention to current events."
Translation - "...to anyone who has tapioca for brains and who sees conspiracies in every box of cereal."
"A careful re-read of our own Declaration of Independence, or the South Carolina Declaration of Causes, shows us that we are today faced with the same tyranny"
BTW, the "South Carolina Declaration of Causes" was the document that "justified" South Carolina joining the Confederate States of America.
"Federal Employees: If you work for the federal government in any capacity, remember your sworn oath to defend and protect the Constitution for the United States. If you are in law enforcement or the military, consider joining the Oath Keepers. The United States is your country and it serves you better when the country as a whole prospers and thrives. Do not participate in any agency’s or department’s actions that are intent on denying or destroying our constitutionally protected rights, our individual freedoms and liberties to defend ourselves and our families, or our ability to support and feed ourselves and our families. If you do that, we will consider you our enemy. Because you are our neighbor, we don’t want to do that, but when you are unlawful, or when you believe you are above our laws, we will. Trust us."
Ooooh, threaty.
"State Employees: If your role in life is to work for the people of your state as part of your state’s government, then this means it is your sworn responsibility to defend and protect the lawful citizen voters who put you in office, first and foremost. You must follow and abide by your state constitution and your state laws. You are not above the law, and you are not a member of an upper class. Keep our election processes clean, honest, and above manipulation by criminal forces. If you are a democrat, consider carefully your inclusion in a progressive and communistic ideological political group, and if you want to stay progressive and/or communist in your views, get the hell out of our government. We only want constitutional patriots working for us."
"One Party, One State, One Country....."
"Local government employees: If you work for your city, town, or county, the same rules apply. It is a privilege to work in service to your lawful citizen neighbors. Treat them with respect, work hard for them, and treat them as your bosses, because they are your bosses. Again, we only want patriotic public servants working for us, so if you don’t believe in our laws and in our culture, get the hell out of our service. "
"What do you mean you want fair pay and benefits and collective bargaining?? You're a public servant! It's a privilege that I allow you to work for us! Now get back to work, SERVANT!"
"Lawful, resident citizen voters: If you are a lawful citizen and voter, re-learn your own laws and your American history, economics, and politics, starting in colonial times. Understand your own laws and be lawful. You can’t demand your government to be lawful if you are not lawful. Don’t waste your time with learning much about communism and or Marxism except to understand your enemy – both are proven failures at government. Go to church. Help your neighbors. Be charitable to those in need, although sometimes that may mean practicing a bit of tough love. Be demanding of those who serve you. If you are young enough to participate in your local militia, do so. Buy guns and learn how to use them. We have been taught fear by our government, and we have to unlearn that bad habit – excessive and unlawful government is actually our enemy. There is nothing kind, forgiving, or lovable about a government agency or bureaucrat when he’s on duty. It’s all force and violence."
Charming train of thought there.
"None of what I’m suggesting will be easy, but then again, neither is slavery to a communist government easy or comfortable. We Americans have done an excellent job of creating the most successful and beneficial country on the face of the planet, but while we were working and supporting our families, our churches, and our communities, our enemies have sneaked into our camp and have been eating the fruits of our labor and destroying the future of our children. This criminal action by our enemies must be reversed, and will be reversed, when we patriots retake America."
And the saber rattling from the lunatic fringe continues.
12 March - Jim Galloway at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution comments on Hatfield.
"In the interview, Hatfield announced that he’d made some changes to HB 401. The material applying to Obama has been stripped away, he said:
”The bill has undergone some change since it was originally introduced. We have a substitute that’s drawn up, but I’ll just tell you basically, as originally introduced, the bill would require that a presidential or vice presidential candidate submit an affidavit showing that he or she meets the requirements of natural-born citizenship, age and residency – 14 years residency in the United States…..“The bill also, as to the affidavit, originally included some language…that would ask that the candidate swear to the fact that he or she had never held dual citizenship or multiple citizenship and that the candidate had only had allegiance to the United States of America….
“Now, that has changed with the substitute…..Issues have been raised. A lot of people are saying it’s a political bill. So in order to allay concerns about the bill’s potential political nature, I have proposed a substitute, which would move the effective date of this bill to July 1 of 2013.
“And that makes it clear that President Obama would not be subject to the requirements of the bill. Yet we would still be able to get into law some definite means of enforcing the Article 2 Section 1 requirement.
“The substitute would also remove the dual citizenship issue, multiple citizenship….”
Judging by the chatter on birtherreport.com, that didn’t sit well with true-believers, who began accusing Hatfield of caving.
12 March - Another from professional Seditionist Sharon Rondeau. This time she's wondering if Mike Huckabee really misspoke.
"On March 5, blogger Nobarack08"
That's the one you got that racist graphic you were called out on, and who has an entire gallery of such.
"...reported on an article from September 3, 2006 by Lynn Sweet which had been published in the Chicag0 Sun-Times wherein Obama himself is quoted as referring to having spent his childhood in both Kenya and Indonesia.
Obama reportedly mentioned Indonesia as a destination for a trip he was planning for 2007 while still a U.S. senator. The writer said, “he’s looking at China, India and Indonesia, where ironicall [sic] I actually have more of a childhood than I do in Kenya.”
Why would Obama have used the word “ironically”?
Because while he never went to Kenya until he was an adult, he did live in Indonesia for a couple years as a child.
Oh, right, that's too simple and based in reality for a birther.
"A spokesman for Huckabee “said the former governor misspoke,” as did Huckabee himself. One blogger called Huckabee “delirious” and “nuts,” making an immediate connection between the “birth certificate” issue and Obama’s childhood. But are the two issues connected? What are these bloggers saying now?"
That Huckabee was delirious and nuts???
13 March - And look who has to go "look at ME look at ME!!!" (malware and redirect warning)
(Bold face mine)
"Tell GA speaker of the House to move Presidential Certification bill through the committee now with effective date 2012 or face charges of treason and aiding and abetting treason against people of the United States of America for allowing usurper Barack Hussein Obama on yet another ballot without a valid Social Security number of his own and without a valid long form Birth Certificate
Posted on | March 13, 2011 "
13 March - And at Dr. Orly's, malware-infested site, this charmer from one of her readers.
"Where are these Leaders? Do they all belong to some sort of secrete organizations like the Masons, Knights of Columbus, etc that are pledged to close ranks and defend their Brothers even before the Court or before the US Constitution despite their Oaths of Allegiance?"
Conspiracy much??
"I say this is Rank Obnoxious Treason and should be reason for Execution by “Hanging by the Neck Until Dead”. Is that not what was required by the Constitution and enforced by the Founders? This is not some joke folks this is a tipping point of the existence of our Constitutional Government."
Oooh, threaty.
And Dr. Orly chimes in with:
"WHILE I DON’T SHARE THE WRITER’S NOTION ABOUT HANGING"
Surrre you don't......
"....HE IS RIGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR TOP OFFICIALS IN GOVERNMENT AND CONGRESS ARE COMMITTING TREASON AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION.
Posted on | March 13, 2011"
Says the woman who hob-nobs with people calling for revolution and military coups.
13 March - And Birther Report seems to have absolutely no problems believing the claims of a known convicted forger.
"Lucas Daniel Smith, the person that claims he obtained an Obama birth certificate in Mombasa, Kenya called in to the CFP Radio Show hosted by Douglas Hagmann and Judi McLeod. Lucas Smith says he is willing to testify before Congress under oath and under penalty of perjury about Obama's alleged Kenyan Birth Certificate.
Commander Charles Kerchner and Attorney Mario Apuzzo were the guests on the show when Smith called in. Commander Kerchner asked Smith if he had received any responses from the elected officials he sent the birth certificate. Smith sent packets to every U.S. Senator and every U.S. Congressman and Smith said he only received 3 letters, a few emails and one phone call. He most likely received the uniformed responses which were based on this garbage here.
CFP Radio Host and 25 year multi-state licensed private investigator Douglas Hagmann did an excellent job at questioning Lucas Smith about some of the details surrounding the subject. Mr. Hagmann also offered Lucas Smith his services to fully investigate Lucas Smith's claims and Smith's documents related to the case. "
13 March - Oh look, it's seditionist Neil Turner, and he's having an extended hissy fit that most politicians aren't taking the birtherstani seriously.
(Bold face mine)
"Article II Constitutionalists have been called Birthers, Racists, Nazis, Hate-Mongers, Pinheads, and even Seditionists"
Funny, I don't recall calling "Article II Constitutionalists" any of the above. I HAVE called people deliberately ignoring or attempting to rewrite the Constitution those things though.
"Now that they have run out of vile and repulsive epithets that just don’t stick, they have even turned to the likes of the lovely Ms. Sarah P. to say that we are ‘diversionary’ – a DIVERSION from the real important issues of the day!
Add to that the words of Rep. Jeff Flake of AZ (now running for the soon-to-be-vacated seat of AZ Senator John Kyl), who has the unmitigated gall to say that Article II Constitutionalists need to ‘accept reality.’
NOW HEAR THIS, Ms. Palin and Mr. Flake!
Since when is TREASON a ‘diversion’?"
You tell me, since you're the one preaching treason and sedition.
"Realistic patriotic Americans know that your refusal to address the number one issue on the minds of over 180 million Americans is the real DIVERSION here, a failure on both your parts to accept REALITY!"
So you're trying to tell me that more than 48.7 million Americans then voted in the 2008 Presidential election are birthers??
Why am I having major problems believing that claim??
"Why have they not objected so far to the counting of electoral votes for a non-natural born Citizen, Barack Hussein Obama/Barry Soetoro? (a ‘ghost’ who has hidden his real identity from all."
Because they're not crazy enough to believe the birther lies and conspiracy theories??
"Admit it. This is insanity, pure insanity.)"
Well, yes. On the birther side though, not those in the reality-based community.
"We The People have no other choice but to search diligently for candidates who will answer the above questions positively, and to take action to REMOVE all incumbents from office – by Citizens’ Grand Jury indictments and Citizens’ court trials under the reestablished and re-inhabited Constitutional Republic for the united States!"
Note the capitalization of "united States"
So where have I heard the "Constitutional Republic for the united States" before? Oh, right the "Restore America" blog and the "Republic for the united States of America". Which is "President" Tim Turner, the secret cRAP masters, and their merry band of Sovereign Citizens.
So why is Neil Turner worrying about what Sarah Palin and Jeff Flake say, much less Barack Obama, since he's already recognized another "uS" government and another "President"??
Oh, right, the scary black man again.
"Every time you get a call or email from The Newt, or The Mitt, or Ms. Bachmann, etc, just tell them that you have money and support for ANY candidate who is willing to step forward and demand enforcement of Article II, Section 1, and, for the sake of the political prisoner in Leavenworth, LTC Terry Lakin, to demand proof that the putative Commander-in-Chief can issue anything other than unlawful orders."
Sure, stay at home in November of 2012. Or throw your vote to Alan Keyes or the like. They might even get up to 3 or 4 percent of the vote!
Actually to touch on Neal Turner's "180 million Americans" claim, I noticed the last few days a meme going around birtherstan that claims that 51% of ALL Americans (including over 80% of all Republicans) are birthers. I haven't found a poll yet to base said claim on, and I don't know if they pulled it out of their asses or World Nut Daily (granted, same place).
The current population of the United States is 308,745,538. 51% of that would be 151,285,314. So if Neal Turner is basing his "180 Million" claim on this meme, he's still shy a few million.
But then maybe the "united States" have a larger population than the United States does.
13 March - Dr. Orly seems a bit cranky about the Georgia birther bill's chances of not making it out of committee. (malware and redirect warning)
"IS GA SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE DAVID RALSTON, A BENEDICT ARNOLD OF THE SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND OF THE REVOLT AGAINST THE USURPER BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA?
Posted on | March 13, 2011"
Note the phrase "Second American Revolution" there......
13 March - Georgia State Rep Tommy Benton seems to be perfectly at home with the birtherstani.
"The birther movement alleges that Obama, born of a Kenyan father, was not born in the United States. Hawaiian birth records say otherwise, but Hatfield has complained that he’s never seen documentation that Obama is eligible to serve. Nonetheless, Hatfield claims his bill is not about Obama.
As for Benton, consider him a birther.
“I think he’s (Obama) the only one who has refused to show his birth certificate,” Benton said."
Well, John McCain also refused too, whereas Obama posted a picture of his. But hey, reality is such a small picky problem to a birther.
"Asked if he thought Obama was born in the United States, Benton replied, “I have my doubts about it.”
Only by ignoring the facts or evidence should one have doubts about such.
12 March - At "Birther Report", we have Fantasy Tiddlywinks League member and Fitzpatrick flunkie Carl "Pixel Patriot" Swensson talking to Georgia State Rep Sean Jerguson. (the video was done on 7 March 2011, so the information may dated)
"Rep. Jerguson slammed the media for spinning the issue and for the "half-truths" they report about it. He says "the entire truth has not been laid out so that all of Georgia can understand what this particular bill and this particular issue is about." He blames the media for the "waning of support" for the bill saying it is a "result of misinformation" from the media."
Actually the media has so far reported the bill pretty accurately. Of course the birthers hate the truth, so....
"He encourages citizens to actually read the bill."
We did. The term "unconstitutional" came to mind.
"In short, he says it is a constitutional issue and a rule of law issue. Rep. Jerguson correctly implies a "natural born Citizen" is one born on American soil to parents that are either both U.S. citizens or naturalized U.S. citizens at the time of the birth of the child."
Ah, so he's a de Vattelist. Pity that actual law and Constitutional experts, not to mention 200+ years of case law, tend to disagree with him.
13 March - *LAUGH!!!* Well played, Mr. President!!!!!
"President Obama got the Marine Band to give him a special musical introduction at the Gridiron Club's annual dinner on Saturday night. After the traditional “Hail to the Chief,” Gunnery Sgt. Kevin Bennear sprang to the stage and as the band struck up the familiar chords of Bruce Springsteen’s anthem, belted out:
“Born in the U-S-A! Born in the U-S-A!”
“Some things just bear repeating,” said Obama, as an audience of more than 600 government officials and media executives broke up at the allusion to the long-running rumors over the president’s birth certificate."
You hear that popping sound?? It's the birtherstani's heads exploding in sheer impotent rage. And I wonder how many of these "patriots" will be calling for Gunnery Sgt. Kevin Bennear's court-martial......
Gov. Mitch Daniels (R- Indiana) got off a potshot at some of his fellow Republicans too.
"Daniels also took a crack at several potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination. He mocked Mitt Romney for debating with himself (Obama later joked that there were two Romneys occupying the same “host body”) and he noted that when Mike Huckabee mistakenly said Barack Obama was raised in Kenya, Sarah Palin corrected him by saying that Obama “hasn’t even been to Europe.”"
14 March - Thanks to the people at "Fogbow" for finding out some more things about Georgia State Rep. Mark Hatfield.
Seems he's a serious dyed in the wool tin-foil hat wearing birther. Look at this 19 May 2010 post at "Patriot Action Network"
"CIA Columbia trial
Posted by GA Rep Mark Hatfield on May 19, 2010 at 11:00am
View GA Rep Mark Hatfield's blog
I believe since that it was impossible to gain justice in the official courts that it is easy to see why we the people would attempt the effort in a peoples court. The 10Th amendment says the trial is not a mock trial that it is indeed a trial.
seeing that I believe in the constitution then I do not see it as a waste of time. I ask all people to please support the constitution and to support the men and women in uniform to get to the bottom of this. I do agree that the Nov votes are absolutely critical to our future but we have to plug the hole that O has put into Article 2 Section 1 of our constitution as well.
We may not be here if Article 2 Section 1 were up held."
So he thinks James Manning's fake trial had some validity.
There is also a page in his name called the HR1503 Coalition page there. Complete with photos of inmate Lakin, Polland/Polarik's claims, and others. However, I can't say if he's part of this or not.
"Profile Information
What issues concern you the most? (Please check all that apply)
Illegal Alien Amnesty & Open Borders
My biggest concern about the current administration, congress, country, and or the leftist agenda is?
The fact that Obama is not a natural born citizen.
How I will or would like to contribute:
Educate myself, family, Forward via email petitions and information to assist in educating the masses, and friends on the issues"
14 March - At this point I'm wondering if Theresa Cao is trying for an insanity defense or is simply too detached from reality to notice that she's screwing herself over. From the Pest and eFail, and their usual froth at the mouth writer Sher Zieve.
"Theresa has already been forced to appear in court for her transgression (aka “Free Speech”) of questioning Obama’s eligibility and has, apparently, been told to accept a plea-bargain punishment…or else."
No, she was OFFERED one. Basically a "we'll give you a pass if you keep your nose clean" deal.
"She has already had her first appearance in court, has been charged with [disruption of Congress] “unlawful conduct” (free speech is no longer allowed under the increasingly lawless Obama regime) and her next appearance is scheduled for 15 March 2011."
Freedom of Speech doesn't mean you have the right to say anything you want where ever you want, and it means accepting the results of that speech. You can't yell "fire" in a theatre without facing charges. You can't promote treason and sedition at the Pest and eFail without being called a seditionist. You know, actions have consequences.
"Note: Maj. General Paul E. Vallely (Ret.) recently called Theresa “a brave woman. A true patriot.”"
Coming from a man advocating a military coup.....
So what was part of this plea deal?
"In essence, Attorney Downs stated in both instances that these Plea Deals would not implicate my case as “Guilty” but would be considered “Not Guilty”; but it would include 40 hours of community service, and 6-9-12 months of probation, with my promise of “Good Behavior.”
Sounds pretty basic and straight forward. Somehow I suspect Cao isn't happy with them though....
"Attorney Downs wanted me to believe that the “FTO” was different from the “Stet” Docket. I had to connect the dots, so to speak, after the fact after my appointment with her on March 7, 2011. Thus, there is a question of fraud and collusion with the Prosecutor and the Judge to threaten to “Shut [me] Up” and thereby not pursue my Constitutional rights–the Supreme Law of the Land–and not just in theory, but as the basis of our Republic form of Government.
This specific example of corruption and fraud, being one of a few other examples that implicates Attorney Downs, is an integral part of the corrupted judicial system."
Why do I suspect Attorney Downs is drinking heavily around now....
"I asked Attorney Downs specifically to research what has taken place with Code Pink at our initial meeting on February 8, 2011, giving her over one month to find out information for me. But she did not do her job. Her response to my following up with her on this detail was “ho-humming” and beating around the bush–until she said something to the effect that she didn’t recall that question. Then she later remembered that I did ask her and responded asking how can she find out any information if there were no arrests made?! She did not do her job…period. So, to date, I still have to do some research on this specific issue."
You have a public defender, one who has OTHER clients, some of which are more serious than your freakout in the Congressional Gallery.
"I will be pursuing this matter of “Arrest” in both my “Motion to Dismiss” as well as preparing for my Court Trial–should that be the direction of my Criminal Misdemeanor case."
"Motion to Dismiss"?? Oh, this is gonna be good.
"Plan One: I plan to file a “Motion to Dismiss” based on my Constitutional rights, on Monday, March 14, 2011, the day before my court hearing date scheduled for the following day, March 15, 2011.
The reason for this late date for filing the “Motion to Dismiss” was due to the fact that Attorney April L. Downs, the Public Defender assigned to me by Obama’s court appointed Judge Marisa Demeo, stated that I could not file the stated Motion prior to my court hearing."
So then why are you doing it??
"One of two of my advisers/sources, Margy and Jack Flynn, from the website americancitizensoftheconstitution.com, although not attorneys per se but who are students of the Constitution of the United States, have advised me that I can file for the Motion prior to the court date. It should be noted that my advisers did bring to my attention [to the fact] that I could file the Motion prior to my court hearing, which was prior to my meeting with Attorney Downs earlier this week on March 7, 2011. The Flynns have been key instruments in assisting me with learning about my inherent, God-given Constitutional rights"
Not surprising, the Pest and eFail and Cao got the link wrong. It's "Citizens of the American Constitution". I'll touch more on them in a bit.
Still, it's interesting to see Cao's attitude of "Public Defender = bad, so-called 'experts' on the internet = good". It dovetails nicely with the usual birther mindset.
"My other sources/advisers, come from the website avoiceforchildren.com. Pamela and Will Gaston, who penned the book “Sui Juris: The Truth in Record A Process For the People to Access the Court,” is an essential resource for all American Citizens who are currently involved in the corrupted U.S. Court system to stand upon their unalienable, God-given, Constitutional rights.
And more internet "experts".....
"...the entire judicial system is pursuing enacting Shariah law in place of the Constitution of the U.S., which is current news as of two weeks ago. And since December 2008, the Treasury Department of the U.S. has taught Shariah Law 101 and installed Shariah Laws into our Constitutional system."
WTF???
"Please tell your family and friends and all American Citizens everywhere of these two sources of mine noted above by which we can win, case by case, against this prevailing wicked and corrupt system. We must be brave and courageous! We can no longer be subservient to the New World Order system! We must stand and defend our own cases, without so-called attorneys, if they will not defend the Supreme Law of the Land!"
Someone may end up with a psychiatric hold.
"Plan Two: Dismiss Attorney April L. Downs from my case because she has not done her homework for my case, has misled me concerning my options (given by the Prosecutor’s office) and is still indicating that I should take the FTO [First Time Offender] offer. Other details, also, lead me to believe that she does not want to defend me based on my Constitutional rights; even though she says I still have the final choice by Tuesday, March 15, 2011, to decide the direction of the case."
I suspect April Downs would be running from the courtroom screaming "FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST THANK GOD ALMIGHTY FREE AT LAST!!!"
"I may request that Judge Marisa Demeo assign me another court-appointed Public Defender due to the negligence of Attorney April L. Downs. I am not definite on this matter; I may just want to have a trial scheduled."
Why bother? You've already shown you could care less what actual attorneys have to say about your case. Show up in your angel wings and plead your case by yourself! They may even have some nice people give you a white jacket with wrap around "I love me" sleeves to go with the wings!!
"Plan Three: If Judge Marisa Demeo refuses to abide by the Constitution of the U.S. and the Bill of Rights by not dismissing my Criminal Misdemeanor Charge/Case, then I will ask for a Trial by Jury based on Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments."
*Chuckle* You may find a real jury doesn't have the patience for your wingnuttery.
So let's look at her "experts" shall we??
Jack & Margy Flynn run the "Citizens of the American Constitution" website, where they claim to "have won well over 250 cases in New Mexico courts, a near 100% victory record", and state:
"Because the Constitution is the Supreme Law of this land, and was written by the Sovereign People for the Sovereign People and created a government intended to serve the Sovereign, namely, We, The People, pursuant to oaths taken by public officers and officials to uphold and support the Constitution, we openly discuss this egalitarian Masterpiece of humane law and Human Rights, and we welcome your comments and questions. Many people justifiably complain about wide-spread and extensive abuses by government and our courts against the People, but do little about it. Complaints remain as complaints until EFFECTIVE ACTION is taken to resolve the problems government creates. "
They also offer workshops on the subject. Much of the stuff reads like various Sovereign citizen craptrap. However, their track record may not be all it's cracked up to be. For example:
"Stay away from FALSE ADVERTIZERS Jack & Margy Flynn who can' t provide any proof or evidence that they have even won 10% or 30 case, hell they can't provide any proof or evidence that they have won 1% or 3 cases, MUCH LESS 300 CASES. I sent several patriots to meetings in several States to ask them to provide case numbers of actual wins and at the 1st seminar, they said to just GO LOOK AT THEIR WEB SITE AND ALL THE WINS ARE POSTED THERE to throw everyone off track of suspecting that they really didn't have any wins until after they skipped out of Dodge and went home, then at the next seminar, when they were confronted with the TRUTH that their is NOT 300 WINS posted on their web site, they now claim that they are ASSOCIATED WITH 300 WINS BY OTHER PEOPLE!!!! THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY FIRST SAID, THEY SAID THEY JACK & MARGIE FLYNN HAD 300 WINS!!!! At the next seminar, I had people ask them to provide proo f of 300 ASSOCIATED WINS by providing 300 case numbers and of course, as expected, they changed the subject and ignored said valid request!!!!"
"I have reviewed some of JACK & MARGY FLYNN’S BOGUS LEGAL PAPERWORKS and to me, it’s ALL OLD, OUTDATED & LONG OVERCOME PATRIOT CRAP that is 100% USELESS and NOT even worth you spending the money that it would take to pay for any copies to file in any court!!!NONE OF THEIR PAPERWORK IS EVEN WORTH THE COST OF PRINTING A COPY AT COST AT ANY PRINT CENTER IF SOMEONE WAS TO LOAN YOU A COPY OF ANY OF THEIR FRIVOLOUS AND SILLY LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO PATRIOT BS!!!
JACK & MARGY FLYNN’S PAPERWORKS is 100% RANK AMATEUR LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO THAT WILL NOT WIN ANY KIND OF A CASE PERIOD!!!
It’s obvious as hell just from reading JACK & MARGY FLYNN’S frivolous legal mumbo jumbo paperwork that they have NEVER even taken a basic PARA-LEGAL COURSE as they clearly do NOT have even the requisite legal skills to write a COMPETENT MOTION TO DISMISS ANY KIND OF A CASE!!!"
And then we have Pamela and Will Gaston, who state:
"A Voice for Children helps parents who are FALSELY ACCUSED of child abuse, lobbies for Constitutional Rights, and the ELIMINATION of corrupt officials, judges, bureaucrats. Pamela and Will Gaston are highly involved in "Rattling the Gates of Hell" of the bureaucratic and judicial corruption in the state of Oregon."
They've made claims about CPS stealing children to use in pornography videos, and had their own children taken from them, which triggered a vendetta against CPS. (There were also charges that their daughter was molested while in a foster home) And - no surprise, it seems they have their own connections with the "Sovereign Citizens" movement. Not to mention a failed "citizens arrest" of the judge who terminated their parental rights. There's also allegations of involvement with racist groups as well.
Charming. And these are the people who Cao thinks gives better advice than her public attorney.
14 March - Charles Kerchner takes his hand out of Mario Apuzzo's rear long enough to write this spittle-flecked call to action against Georgia Speaker of the House David Ralston.
"GA HB401 the Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act is being stalled in committee in the GA House of Reps by lack of full backing by the GA Speaker of the House David Ralston. It will die in the relevant GA house committee this Wednesday or will be modified and moved out with an effective date of 2013, after the next election giving Obama another pass at compliance with Article II Section 1 of our U.S. Constitution, i.e., of having to prove he is a "natural born Citizen of the United States"."
Translation: "Wahhh! Doesn't he understand that the entire point to this bill is to get that uppity darkie out of the WHITE House????"
"Contact the Speaker of the GA House of Reps David Ralston and tell him to stop his recalcitrant behavior with the stalling and delaying on the HB401 the Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act put forward by GA Reps Mark Hatfield and Sean Jerguson. Tell the GA house speaker the bill must be moved out of the relevant committee now and passed this legislative session with an effective date of this year to allow it be in effect for the 2012 presidential election cycle ... NOT 2013 as the GA speaker is twisting arms to do. Call or FAX him"
I'm sure a batch of emails and calls from screaming nutjobs and conspiracy wingbats will change his mind for sure.
"Even better if you live near the GA House Capitol building go visit him personally on Monday or Tuesday and tell him how important it is that this bill HB401 be moved out of committee and passed and be in effect for the coming presidential election cycle in 2012. "
I'm sure his office security like the warning.
"We cannot allow the usurper in chief Barack Hussein Obama to get another pass in the proper vetting of his original long form birth certificate records and proving to the states election officers his true legal birth identity and citizenship status in the 2012 election cycle, since he won't do it now."
I thought Hatfield kept saying it wasn't about Obama.
Oh, right, he was lying.
"Only certified copies of the original long form birth certificate showing the name of the hospital of birth, attending doctor, midwife if applicable, and/or witnesses to the birth event with signatures of same will do. And that type certified paper document must be presented to each and every state's Secretary of State to prove the candidate's eligibility under the Constitution."
Of course, even if Obama did provide just that, the birthers would claim forgery, and Kerchner and the like would still be screaming "de Vattel uber alies!" like some demented parrot.
The most amazing thing is this. It doesn't matter where Barak Obama was born. It doesn't matter where he grew up as a child. It doesn't matter whether he went to Indonesia, was adopted or not by his stepfather, or even whether he visited Pakistan as a young adult or not.
Barak Obama's mother (i.e. at least one of his parents) was an American citizen. By that alone, and nothing else, makes Barak Obama an American citizen eligible for running and holding the office of President of the United States.
He could have "renounced" his citizenship as a minor, and that wouldn't have mattered because you can't DO THAT as a minor.
Everything else that the birthers spin is just garbage. One American citizen parent and you're a natural born American citizen. End of story.
Also, if both of his parents were from Kenya, Russia, Siberia, or from the make-believe land where Oily Tits is from, the simple fact that he was born in Hawaii makes him an American citizen.
Combine the two, and really there's not much else that a birther can stand on. Obama has lived in the United States for 14 years prior to taking office, so the guy is qualified.
Birthers can quotes books that have no relevance, or places and situations made up and real, and none of it matters. Born of an American Citizen=American Citizen. Born on American Soil=American Citizen.
Here ends some sort of lessony thing. ;)
Posted by: Some Other Patrick | March 14, 2011 at 03:29 PM
My sincerest condolences to April Downs. She must have drawn the short straw ...
Posted by: GeorgetownJD | March 14, 2011 at 10:06 PM
I sure hope someone has forwarded this post and the p&e's to April Downs
Posted by: Phil | March 15, 2011 at 06:29 AM
So what happened with that big national day of protest on the thirteenth? Not even a peep....strange....
Posted by: JenGStarr | March 15, 2011 at 10:04 AM