In today's dispatches, CNN claims they've seen Obama's COLB as well. We have an example of the Tea Party and Birther base, at least in South Carolina. Sen. McCain supports Jan Brewer. There are some theories that Trump might put an end to birtherism.
Some sane Republicans continue to try and reclaim their party from the crazies. We have a whole conspiracy gumbo of warmed over Clinton claims with Obama myths. Dr. Orly is getting some loving, Pest and eFail style. Rep. Bachmann continues to play both sides of the birther fence.
The Pest and eFail continues it's slide into outright bigotry. Dr. Orly and Gary Kreep get some more time in their appeal. A birther / Tea Party lawsuit goes the way of the dodo. Missouri comes up with a somewhat sane birther bill. Politico does a brief history of birtherism. And we have some samples of Lame Cherry's latest.
A note to my readers - I have been spending the last few days and this weekend with my family, so please excuse the delay in updates.
15 April - In commenting about Donald Trump's birtherism, CNN makes an interesting claim.
"The Obama team and the state of Hawaii released a certification of live birth, which documents the president’s birth on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu. This is not the original birth certificate. In Hawaii and other states, original birth certificates are not released when requested later.
CNN has seen a copy of the document and verified that it is official.
The certificate, officials say, allows a person born in Hawaii to get a driver's license, purchase land and obtain a U.S. passport."
19 April - Some fun video from a Tea Party rally in South Carolina that was hosted by Rep. Michelle Bachmann and SC Gov. Nikki Haley.
Donald Trump, this is your base, Fox News and Glenn Beck, this is your viewership...
19 April - And Gov. Brewer's veto gets applauded by one of her US Senators.
"Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday credited Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) for making "the right decision" with her veto of the so-called "birther bill," which would have required presidential candidates to submit their birth certificates in order to qualify for the ballot.
On Monday Brewer vetoed House Bill 2177, which would have required parties nominating candidates for president to submit documents that "prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen." In her veto message, she called the bill "a bridge too far.""
19 April - The Atlantic seems to think Trump will give the Coup de Grace to birtherism.
"That's not to say prominent Republicans haven't rejected birtherism before. But Trump has brought up the contrast levels. Lines are being drawn.
Rep. Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin, as far as I can tell, are the only GOP White House hopefuls that are playing in the birther sands. Bachmann is barely doing so. She recently asked why Obama can't put birtherism to rest by allowing a legal expert to verify his birth certificate. We can decide for ourselves whether Bachmann played to birther views, but it's certainly different from what Trump is doing. Newt Gingrich hasn't commented, and a spokesman chose to leave it at that.
As 2012 rolls on, one hopes the birther winds blow away from Trump, and that any fence-sitters who want the tea party vote will, eventually, reject birtherism too. GOP insiders have started to publicly call Trump an embarrassment, and, if they're right, continued exposure of fact will erode his standing.
Birtherism's arc has stagnated, with suspicions about as prevalent today as they were in 2009. The rising action of birtherism's story is no longer rising, which leaves political audiences unsatisfied. Every plot needs needs a crisis, and Trump may just be the Iago-type catalyst to bring this one to a head."
19 April - We continue to see attempts by sane Republicans to take their party back.
"The renewed effort to tamp down birtherism underscores a view held by many establishment Republicans that the conspiracy theorists make up a small subset of the party base and risk turning off swing voters more interested in jobs and economic concerns.
The new chairman of the Colorado Republican Party, Ryan Call, said Tuesday that “getting distracted” with questions about Obama’s birth certificate “does a great disservice to the real challenges that our country faces.”
Some strategists say the issue helps Democrats paint the GOP as extreme or fringe.
Obama told ABC last week that the issue “creates, I think, a problem for [Republicans] when they want to actually run in a general election where most people feel pretty confident the president was born where he says he was, in Hawaii.”
But how good is the attempt going to be?
"At a tea party rally Saturday in South Florida, Trump drew cheers as he repeatedly raised questions about Obama’s origins. He also took aim at Rove, charging that the strategist worked for an administration whose struggles “gave us Obama.”
A spokesman for Trump could not be reached Tuesday.
Despite extensive reporting by the nonpartisan PolitiFact site and other outlets debunking the notion that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii, the conspiracy theorizing has remained alive — at least in some circles. The conservative site WorldNetDaily routinely runs stories questioning Obama’s heritage. Talk show host Sean Hannity has echoed calls for Obama to show a birth certificate, though he has said he believes the president was born in the United States.
Surveys suggest the issue could have resonance. A Fox News poll this month found that about one-quarter of all voters, including more than a third of Republicans, believe Obama was not born in the United States. A slim majority view the idea as “nutty,” but four in 10 voters said there was cause to wonder."
*Sigh* Good luck, sane Republicans.
19 April - Wow, Conspiracy gumbo.
"The Obama eligibility hoax, the cover-up of the cause of the loss of TWA Flight 800, and the assassination of Ron Brown (one of the most corrupt senior public officials in the history of the nation) are all linked together, according to Cashill. In fact, the border security and immigration mess is another problem with the same linkage. They are all independent but related manifestations of the same extraordinary political corruption which has become the norm in the Democratic Party of today, and which is destroying our nation.
In my opinion, the exposure of these outrageous crimes of the Clintons , together with the exposure of the massive hoax of the fraudulent Obama election, could lead to the removal of the Democratic Party from a meaningful role in the American political system.
Whether or not this can be accomplished, we must be prepared to follow up the removal of Obama with the changes necessary to restore Constitutional government in the United States of America , and to insure that the damage to our country carried out by the so-called “Progressives” over the last one hundred years can never happen again.
David F LaRocque"
19 April - Dr. Orly gets some loving by the Pest and eFail.
"Dr. Taitz told The Post & Email that she believes that Donald Trump will win the presdential nomination of the Republican Party in 2012. “I have no doubt that he will get the nomination and that people will be voting for him. You can see all the polling. The guy is just warming up. He ran only for a couple of weeks, and within two weeks, he has beaten all the competition and is 9% ahead of his nearest opponent. I don’t think Romney will even run, knowing that Trump is running.”
And if Trump loses?
"Taitz continued, “What worries me is that we have massive election fraud. Today, we have two major companies running the scanners for the voting machines: Diebold and Sequoia. That’s what worries me, because American citizens have no access to the software; we have no proof of how those ballots are being counted, and I’m afraid that even though a majority of people will vote for Trump, the powers that have this information in their hands will basically steal the election by use of those ballot scanners and software that are concealed and inaccessible from the American citizens. I hope that people will support him in pushing not only for the unsealing of Obama’s records, but also unsealing the software so that the United States can continue going toward paper ballots and going toward manual counts and not counting by machine.”
Some of the party faithful aren't happy about Trump:
Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 8:49 AM
I’m with Troy – why does Trump keep repeating the same thing about showing Barrys BC?? Why has he not shifted to the NBC requirement for the Presidency? He’s been sent lots of information regarding this, but he still keeps stating Certificate of Live Birth and ONLY focuses on the BC."
"Wahh! Trump won't throw his children under the bus, wahhh!"
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM
As it stands right now, I’m not going to give Trump one more minute of my time….When and if he begins to sing the NBC song (born on soil of TWO citizen parents) is when I’ll know beyond any doubt that he is truly a patriot and is on the side of “We the People”…"
"(By the way lurking Obamabots, you all are not part of “We the People”….You all disqualified yourselves from that prestigious category when you decided to become “communists by proxy”)"
I'm more American and more of "We the People" than a seditionist racist idiot like yourself, "Troy".
20 April - Michelle Bachmann continues to play both sides of the fence.
"Tea Party cheerleader Rep. Michele Bachmann, who has repeatedly pandered to those who believe President Obama was not born in the United States, has become the latest presidential wanna-be to seek an end to the birther debate.
Bachmann said the issue of Obama's origins was "over" after being presented with a copy of the President's certification of live birth - proof that he was born in the state of Hawaii - on ABC's "Good Morning America."
"It's certified, it's got a certification number, it's got the registrar of the state, signed, it's got a seal on it," George Stephanopoulos told the congresswoman. "And it says this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."
Bachmann was quick to reply: "Well, that should settle it," she said. "Move on, end of story."
20 April - Bigotry? In the Pest and eFail?? By "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet"?? Perish the thought!
"Welcome to The United States of America, 2011. We have an ineligible Muslim in the White House. We have Homeland Security, the Department of Justice, the F.B.I. and all other law enforcement agencies looking the other way whenever a Muslim is involved in anything that resembles a potential crime, an actual crime, or a planned crime. In other words, Muslims have gone from being the enemy to being our keepers.
The end game is to make Europe, North and South America, and the rest of the world ruled by Sharia Law (respect Islam). The inroads of, say, Muslims in ANY country since 2002 is astounding, to say the least. Percentage increases of 300% in the Muslim population are common, with a 70% increase in Ireland alone. Muslims are being sent, on purpose, to colonize areas of the world and, once established, set up shop in order to shove respect for Islam down the throats of the indigenous populace.
You’ve no further to look at the truth of the spread of Islam than to look around the United States, although any European country would serve as just as good an example. The weapons that Muslims bring to bear are unlimited funds and relying on the ignorance of the people whom they are conquering. Once the introduction of a mosque is completed and acceptance by the community as being a “religious” center for new immigrants, the die has been cast and it becomes just a matter of time before there is segregation of the sexes in schools and the wearing of scarves by women.
Most Americans, even after ten years, don’t have a clue as to the advances our enemy has made. One has to admire their audacity, for their Islamovilles around the country are so in-your-face, yet are being totally ignored by the surrounding populace and law enforcement."
20 April - In the appeal of Keyes/Barnett v Obama, Dr. Orly wants to go first AND have the court let her finish.
04/20/2011 37 Filed (ECF) Appellants Capt. Pamela Barnett, Richard Norton Bauerbach, Capt. Robin D. Biron, Col. John D. Blair, Mr. David L. Bosley, Ms. Loretta G. Bosley, Capt. Harry G. Butler, Rep. Glenn Casada, Jennifer Leah Clark, Timothy Comerford, Charles Crusemire, Thomas S. Davidson, Rep. Cynthia Davis, Matthew Michael Edwards, Lt. Jason Freese, Mr. Kurt C. Fuqua, Officer Clint Grimes, Julliett Ireland, D. Andrew Johnson, Israel D. Jones, Timothy Jones, Alan Keyes, Ph. D., David Fullmer LaRoque, Gail Lightfoot, Lita M. Lott, Major David Grant Mosby, Steven Kay Neuenschwander, Frank Niceley, Robert Lee Perry, Col. Harry Riley, Sgt. Jeffrey Wayne Rosner, Capt. David Smithey, John Bruce Steidel, Douglas Earl Stoeppelwerth, Rep. Eric Swafford, Capt. Neil B. Turner, Richard E. Venable, Jeff Graham Winthrope and Mark Wriggle in 10-55084, - Capt. Pamela Barnett, Richard Norton Bauerbach, Capt. Robin D. Biron, Col. John D. Blair, Mr. David L. Bosley, Ms. Loretta G. Bosley, Capt. Harry G. Butler, Rep. Glenn Casada, Jennifer Leah Clark, Timothy Comerford, Charles Crusemire, Thomas S. Davidson, Rep. Cynthia Davis, Matthew Michael Edwards, Lt. Jason Freese, Mr. Kurt C. Fuqua, Officer Clint Grimes, Julliett Ireland, D. Andrew Johnson, Israel D. Jones, Timothy Jones, Alan Keyes, Ph. D., David Fullmer LaRoque, Gail Lightfoot, Lita M. Lott, Major David Grant Mosby, Steven Kay Neuenschwander, Frank Niceley, Robert Lee Perry, Col. Harry Riley, Sgt. Jeffrey Wayne Rosner, Jeffrey Schwilk, Capt. David Smithey, John Bruce Steidel, Douglas Earl Stoeppelwerth, Rep. Eric Swafford, Thomas J. Taylor, Capt. Neil B. Turner, Richard E. Venable, Jeff Graham Winthrope and Mark Wriggle in 09-56827 Motion for miscellaneous relief [request for additional time at oral argument]. Date of service: 04/20/2011.  [10-55084, 09-56827] (OT)
(Scribd link here)
"MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES
Motion is brought on behalf of appellant in appeal 10-55084. This court sua sponte consolidated this appeal with an appeal in case 09-56827. Oral argument was scheduled at Pasadena division on May 2nd. A total of 15 minutes was given to each side. Attorneys on both cases had a meet and confer on the issue of division of time during the oral argument. Attorneys were not able to reach the consensus on the time. Attorneys for case 09-56827 are seeking equal division of time, seven and a half minutes for each case, attorneys for 10-55084 are seeking more time for argument, due to the fact that they have 40 plaintiffs and case 09-56827 has only 2 plaintiffs. Court of Appeals allows as much as 20 minutes per side on the oral argument. Plaintiffs are asking for additional time for following reasons:
1. 10-55084 is an appeal, where 40 appellants are represented. Case 09-56827 is a case with 2 appellants only and presentation is less complicated.
2. Appellants in case 10-55084 are 40 individuals with different standing. Since the case was dismissed on standing, it will take more time to argue different types of standing. Case 09-56827 has only 2 clients with similar standing.
Due to the above, appellants in case 10-56827 are respectfully asking to be the first ones to argue at the oral hearing and are asking for additional time."
20 April - Dr. Orly gives the Pest and eFail her spin on why Gov. Brewer vetoed that state's birther bill. Not surprisingly, "unconstitutional" isn't on that list of reasons.
"Dr. Taitz said that the Speaker of the House cut short the legislative session by two days, ending it on Tuesday instead of on Thursday, April 21, 2011. She stated that because of that, “the legislature has no time to override her veto. That’s why the only thing that can be done is calling an emergency session. But again, who’s going to call it? Brewer is not going to call an emergency session to override her own veto.”"
"Taitz then explained the petition launched since the veto to recall Gov. Brewer, stating that the citizens of Arizona are “outraged” over the decision."
You mean this petition here? People are SO outraged that as of this writing, it only has 122 signatures, many of them from pranksters.
"Taitz said, “If there is something in the bill that’s a problem, we want to know, and this can be amended. If she has a problem with the additional alternative records that can be provided by people who do not have a birth certificate, we can remove that provision, and the only thing we would then have is the original, long-form birth certificate. So let’s just do it. If there’s something that’s bothering her, we can remove it. We are asking her to reconsider her veto.”
She doesn't seem to understand that the entire bill goes completely against the US Constitution.
"Dr. Taitz stated that the group seeking an audience with Brewer would give her a chance to reconsider her veto; “otherwise, we’ll proceed with the recall.” In Arizona, any public official is subject to recall with the signatures of 25% of the number of votes cast in the last election."
Brewer got 938,934. So Dr. Orly would need to get 234,734 signatures for a recall.
Good luck with that.
"An opinion issued by the Washington State Attorney General addressed the following question regarding a gubernatorial veto posed by a Washington state senator:
When an act passed by the legislature is vetoed by the governor under article 3, section 12 of the state constitution, and is returned with his objections to the secretary of state as is provided for therein, is the power of the legislature to override the veto dependent upon that power being exercised before adjournment of the very next session of the legislature subsequent to the veto action, including a special session called for some purpose or purposes other than consideration of the vetoed bill in question?
The answer referred to Article 3, Section 7 the Washington state constitution."
Yes. In Washington State, not the State of Arizona.
Oh, and lookie in comments:
"Larry, Larry, Quite Contrary says:
Wednesday, April 20, 2011 at 11:07 PM
A firing squad is too good for the culprit in the Oval Office. . . quartering would be more appropriate for his repeated acts of treason against We the People and our Constitution!"
And today's visit from the Secret Service goes to.....
21 April - Newsmax talks about Obama's approval ratings.
"President Barack Obama’s April 4 announcement that he will run for re-election hasn’t done much for his approval ratings. They have dropped in every poll held since then amid continuing concern about the budget, employment and gas prices, The Hill reports. Growing turmoil in the Mideast and Africa also has hurt his standing.
On April 15, a Gallup survey tabbed the president's approval rating at 41 percent, a tie for the lowest reading of his administration and down from 49 percent when he announced his campaign."
As of April 22, Obama's rating is at 43 percent. In context:
Obama - 43%
GW Bush - 71%
Clinton - 46%
GHW Bush - 77%
Reagan - 41%
Carter - 37%
So Obama is still consistent with other recent Presidents at the same time in their terms.
21 April - The birther / tea party lawsuit "Purpura v Sebelius" is dismissed.
04/21/2011 32 ORDER that Defendants' Motion to Dismiss is GRANTED. Signed by Judge Freda L. Wolfson on 4/21/2011. (mmh) (Entered: 04/21/2011)
04/21/2011 31 OPINION filed. Signed by Judge Freda L. Wolfson on 4/21/2011. (mmh) (Entered: 04/21/2011)
(Dismissal order here)
(Dismissal opinion here)
21 April - Professional Seditionist Sharon Rondeau gets bent out of shape when anyone calls her a racist. However, racism is the ONLY reason I can see for her to have posted this article at the Pest and eFail.
"An organization which calls itself a “National-International Committee” has planned a Day of Action and Unity for Saturday, April 23, 2011, which happens to be Holy Saturday in the Christian church.
Today is Holy Thursday, also known as Maundy Thursday, which recognizes “the gift of the ministerial priesthood which continues to make present the Priesthood of Jesus Christ.” Between Maundy Thursday and Holy Saturday is Good Friday, the day on which Christians believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was crucified in order to “bring salvation to the human race.”
The mission statement of the group which has organized the worldwide protest for April 23 cites the “pressing and urgent issues” of “white supremacy,…a conspiracy to destroy Black men,…attacks on unions,…religious exploitation,…unfair budget cuts,…disrespect of our elders,…post traumatic slavery disorder…,” among other things, as reasons for the event. The group is demanding “a Nstion and world of our own, with Africa as our free and independent motherland” and states that “All of the above must be achieved by any means necessary. All forms of enemy imposed and self-imposed oppression be identified, attacked and neutralized at once.”
The method proposed for the April 23 protest is “taking vigilantly to the streets, the projects, the police stations, the homeless shelters, courthouses, the State and City Capitols, morgues, jails, and anywhere our people or injustice can be found.”"
"With the United States’ first putative “black president” who reportedly has begun to “openly court black voters long before Election Day,” why are blacks planning on “taking to the streets” for justice on April 23? Have they found Obama lacking?
Do blacks know that Obama might not be eligible to hold the office of president in accordance with the U.S. Constitution? Do they care?"
"A news release from the black people’s organization states that it will “defend the Nation of Islam against attack from Mississippi Tea Party on April 23rd in South Haven Mississippi,” citing the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. But have they been attacked or provoked? The group states that it is “offended” that the Tea Party is holding a rally on the same day as its “National-International Day of Unity.”"
Ooooooh, scary. And funny how she doesn't seem to have a problem with people on her side babbling about "Second Amendment Solutions", but if scary African-Americans with funny-sounding names mention it, it's OMGWTFBBQ time.
And just to underscore the racism, look what was let though her Stalin-like moderation.
Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 3:37 PM
Since they claim Africa as their free and independent motherland that’s where they should all go, and leave America to us Christian white folks."
21 April - And we have a reply to Dr. Orly's request for more time:
"04/21/2011 38 Filed clerk order (Deputy Clerk:BJB): Plaintiffs-Appellants’ motion, filed on April 20, 2011, is GRANTED IN PART and DENIED IN PART. The time for oral argument will be raised from 15 minutes to 20 minutes total for each side, to be divided equally among counsel. Plaintiffs-Appellants’ counsel for the earlier docketed case, No. 09-56827, will argue first in both opening and rebuttal. IT IS SO ORDERED.  [09-56827, 10-55084] (BJB)"
(Scribd link here)
"Plaintiffs-Appellants’ motion, filed on April 20, 2011, is GRANTED INPART and DENIED IN PART. The time for oral argument will be raised from 15minutes to 20 minutes total for each side, to be divided equally among counsel.Plaintiffs-Appellants’ counsel for the earlier docketed case, No. 09-56827, willargue first in both opening and rebuttal"
So both Kreep and Dr. Orly get 10 minutes rather than 7.5 minutes. Defense gets 20 minutes. Kreep goes first for opening and rebuttal.
21 April - Dr. Orly spins the granting of more time. (malware and redirect warning)
"Just a small victory. My motion was granted and we got the maximum allowed time of 20 minutes for the oral argument on May 2, 9th circuit court of appeals, Pasadena division
Posted on | April 21, 2011"
Of course, she doesn't mention that it gives her ten minutes, Kreep ten minutes, and the defense counsel 20 minutes, nor does she mention Kreep goes first.
Oh, and look at the comments by the Cavity Creeps.
April 21st, 2011 @ 4:37 pm
Looks like a “Slam Dunk” now…But, I still don’t know how they will get evicted from the “Whitehouse”…Do we need to organize a “Vigilante’” group to evict them and escort them to the “Tar & Feathering” area?"
And "today's" visit from the "Secret Service" goes "to".......
21 April - Missouri has a birther bill, Senate Bill 282.
"115.399. 1. Not later than the twelfth Tuesday prior to each presidential election, or notwithstanding any prior laws to the contrary, in the year 1996 and thereafter, within seven working days after choosing its nominees for president and vice president of the United States, whichever is later, the state committee of each established political party shall certify in writing to the secretary of state the names of its nominees for president and vice president of the United States. Such certification shall provide verifiable evidence of identity and of proof of status as a natural born citizen of the United States for each nominee and the origins of such evidence. Such evidence shall be in the form of the most complete record of birth available by the controlling legal authority at the time of the nominee's birth, and shall be kept and maintained by the secretary of state, and shall be deemed a public record under chapter 610. The burden of proof for such evidence shall lie solely upon each nominee. As used in this subsection, "natural born citizen" means having been declared a national and citizen of the United States at birth under 8 U.S.C. Sections 1401 to 1409, as amended, or having been declared a national and citizen of the United States under federal law as it existed at the time of the nominee's birth."
Kinda sane for a birther bill, and avoids the de Vattelist crap. Still, the "at the time of birth" thing gives wiggle room for the "long form" crowd.
21 April - Interesting article on the "Alan Keyes Constant"
"This led screenwriter John Rodgers and a friend to coin the term Crazification Factor--an unpredictable and shifting yet relatively consistent bottom, like the silt at the bottom of a pond: "Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification -- either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy."
"Crazification" seems not just unkind but simplistic, though I don't deny a certain baseline: I'd add ironic voting, protest votes--a vote for Alan Keyes is a resonant protest vote--and even people who want to make a spectacle worse. But it still seems to be a useful theory, in the sense that when I see Donald Trump polling really well (26 percent!), or birthers continuing to emit a low hum (27 percent!), I'm no longer shocked: oh, that's just the Keyes Constant."
22 April - Politico does a brief history of Birtherism.
"The theory’s proponents are a mix of hucksters and earnest conspiracy theorists, including prominently a lawyer who previously devoted himself to ‘proving’ that the Sept. 11 attacks were an inside job. Its believers are primarily people predisposed to dislike Obama. That willingness to believe the worst about officials of the opposite party is a common feature of presidential rumor-mongering: In 2006, an Ohio State University/Scripps Howard poll found that slightly more than half of Democrats said they suspected the Bush Administration of complicity in the Sept. 11 attacks.
While there is no grain of truth to either fantasy, there’s something else when it comes to Obama: A visceral reaction against him, a deep sense that the first black president, with liberal views and a Muslim name, must be—in some concrete, provable way—foreign. "
It's not badly written, though they have some events out of order.
22 April - A quick trip into Lame Cherry's racist cesspool. From this article of 21 April.
"With the come release of Jerome Corsi's book Nightmare of my Obama, or whatever Joseph Farah is calling it.........this blog has some exclusives which no one but the insiders know and perhaps you will too if you keep reading the script.
When Matt Drudge ran the banner headline on Obama's secrets, it was a coordination with Joseph Farah as he indeed is the insider source.
It is no secret as I posted it here, that Joseph Farah is a rude man who is one of the reasons Obama was elected in his own book, None of the Above.
In stating that fact, Mr. Farah is one of thee best strategists for profit, Molotov Mob bling headlines and in setting the stage for stories.........his story is the Birther issue which he has driven."
"Stan Ann really sucked as a wife. Lolo the husband would expect her to appear with him at functions to which she refused........that is really a losing face aspect in the third world, so Lolo got out the fist and beat on Stan.........unless of course it was the lesbian maid playing rough in sex.
The main point is low self esteem Stan Dunham screwed colored males to dirty up her sex life to make her feel superior, and after being degraded she didn't apparently like it..........Noel Sheppard are you getting this with Camille Paglia?
This though is what America has in the White House........a sloven lab experiment a liberal mother could not handle who inflated this idiots ego to make him think he had to be some leader to mean something in life......the net result the little tyrant beat on the wogs and in turn got beat on by his mother with a leather belt."
Or this charmer, also from 22 April:
"Did I mention he was a bastard? Well, I suppose he wasn't, but his old man was African and black as Toby's heel from what I was told. He bought women for a herd of cows. Now back in the day in 1960 a heard of cows might run you like 1300 pounds or 2000 yank dollars, which I suppose is like a nice car or might get you a starter home in some little village. So I guess that buying a wife business is a pretty good deal, as even now with inflation that some ten cows would get you a pretty good car, but the home would need a few more bossies to pay of the mortgage.
From what I was told though, only the African gals got the cows, and Hoota's Mama gave her milk away for free as she was on a pretty short leash as a child.
Sure she was a child, a baby when she got her cherry picked, but you can't hold that against some young child being taken advantage of by some swarthy sex machine and his wife. Kind of a double dip delight I suppose, and if you think about it, without a little pedophilia the world never would have had a Hootaville Blue to bring it to the abyss, so the world would not now how high it had sunk from."