In today's dispatches, looks like Dr. Orly gets tagged with the "Mein Kampf" quote as well. "One Pissed Off Vietnam Vet" continues his rants against Muslims, the English, Police, and anyone else he doesn't like.
Dr. Kate has a brand new idea idea to get Obama out of office, which means it's more stale rehashed birther failure. JB Williams doesn't like the fact that most of the declared GOP candidates aren't crazy enough to go full metal birther. Dean Haskins comes back, and he's got a video!
The Congressional Research Service produces a second memo on Obama's citizenship and state of birth, provoking the usual birther allergic reaction to facts and reality. Seditionist Sharon Rondeau gets threatening emails. (Welcome to my life Sharon). Lawrence Sellin seems to be thinking that the Glorious BIrtherstani Peoples Revolution is Any Day Now.
Sher Zieve is off on a paranoid tear. And Lame Cherry shows their misunderstanding of linguistics as well as anything else.
26 May - Looks like Dr. Orly also got nailed by allowing that slightly edited quote from "Mein Kampf" though moderation (malware and redirect warning)
27 May - And another rant by "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet" at the Pest and eFail.
"The next president of the United States, the 44th (sorry, the Obama clown is not the 44th LEGAL president)"
"He's not the president!! He's not! He's not! He's not! He's not! He's not! MOMMY!!!!!!!!"
"Here’s what the next president must do. The first order of business is to kick the United Nations out of this country. Where they end up, who knows, who cares; let them move to London. Heck, England seems to be embracing Sharia, and since the U.N. is nothing more than an Islamic mutual admiration society, they’ll be very comfortable there.."
You know it's funny. The birthers can go on and on about how Obama has supposedly destroyed the "special relationship" between the United States and the United Kingdom, and yet they can also show a level of anglophobia that would bring a proud tear to Lyndon LaRouche's eye.
"Second, deport the “deportables” – you know, Muslims and illegal immigrants."
What about those Muslims that were born here and are natural-born US citizens? Where do they get "deported" to??
Asshat.
"But at the same time, getting back to the U.N. thing, bring our troops home, and then say to the Muslim world, “You followers of Islam, you Muslims, are not ever to be trusted with grown-up stuff, such as sharp knives and anything to do with the splitting of atoms. Since it really isn’t feasible to confiscate all of your sharp knives, we’ll compromise and take and destroy anything whatsoever to do with anything nuclear: reactors and bombs, for instance. And if you don’t cooperate 100%, I’ll nuke Mecca, and then take and destroy your weapons anyway, capice?”
Racist much??
"And now, the fourth item on my agenda: keeping our keepers honest. You guessed it, everyone – that is, every qualified voter – you know, at least mentally ambulatory (speakee Englishie maybe, No?), will have to go through a firearm safety class. Yes, everyone will be armed, or at least have the ability to be armed. The President, besides the “No One Left Behind” ploy, will have proper weapon protocol taught in grade school programs. In order to get a driver’s license, you must be a citizen, be a registered voter, and have a completion-of-weapon safety certificate. For sure, when a girl graduates from high school, along with her diploma, will be a handgun that she’ll be able to carry in her purse, or out in the open on her hip."
While I'm all for firearms safety courses, this is just flat out silly.
"I carry. My wife carries. My children carry. And I also have shotguns and rifles, as do all of my neighbors. A robber, or anyone else violating my Constitutional rights, well, enough said."
On behalf of the sane gun owners of America, I would like to apologize for gun-fetishist asshats like this one.
"Anything, any idea, any plan, unless it has to do with getting America safe from our foreign and domestic enemies (out-of-control “law enforcement,” for instance), should not, and will not, be entertained."
By "out-of-control “law enforcement,", he means "the ones that won't ignore the law and do what he wants them to do."
And wow, a voice of sanity!
"packrat1145 says:
Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 12:44 AM
Re “That’s what our next REAL PRESIDENT MUST DO.”
Then, the next president will violate the Constitution as badly as any we have ever had; because, almost everything, if not all, the things you suggest the next president “MUST DO” would be Unconstitutional if he did them without the consent of Congress, which is what you are suggesting by omitting any mention of that branch of our government from your discussion.
If you have to ask how those things are Unconstitutional, I suggest that you confine your writing to topics you know well enough to discuss."
It doesn't go over well.
"One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet says:
Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Golly, but why don’t you go to the airport and ferry the newly arrived Muslims out to the nearest Islamoville, at least you wouldn’t interfere with people trying to keep their children from having their throats slit, head cut off, hung by the neck from a crane, pushed off a tall building, and so on forever.
I suggest you get with the program and pay attention: the current government in Washington D.C. has not, is not, and has no plans to adhere to the Constitution.
The whole experiment may be over, but we don’t know it yet. One thing for sure, though, I’ll sure know it a lot sooner than you will."
And it gets nuttier:
"Old Army 67 says:
Friday, May 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM
Fifth. Put out warrants on all those who voted us into this mess starting with the Phony 44th president and his cronies. You know who they are. "
Would that include warrants for the 69 million Americans that voted for Obama in the first place?? Oh my, gonna need a lot of jail space.
"Sixth: All vehicles will be flex fuel . Look it up and read about it. "
Well, one point of reason in this word salad.
"Seventh. Clean out all corrupt judges beging with the Supreme Court of the US. "
By "corrupt" he means "wouldn't ignore the law on their demands"
"Seventh."
Two #7's? You can count, right?
"Creat a seperate state for all the Homosexuals and Lesbians along with the liberal teachers and send them there. Lybia, Syria, Sudan sound like good candidates. I could keep this person very busy."
And again, the call to deport or imprison their fellow Americans for the thoughtcrime of doubleplus ungood nutcasebelief.
27 May - And Dr. Kate has a brand new, won't fail, absolutely will get that uppity darkie out of the WHITE House idea.
"We all witnessed a crime committed on national TV April 27, 2011 when Obama presented an electronic image and paper copies of his supposed LFCOLB. We knew within minutes that the document was a fake, and found out Jerome Corsi knew the same at least one month before it was released. We have all read and probably can recite the precise ways in which this electronic image is a forgery."
Which isn't surprising, since birthers were discussing how to dismiss any long form submitted as a "fake" back in summer of 2009. After all, since when has reality mattered to them?
"We also are aware from the chain of custody records released by the White House that a paper copy of the LFCOLB was retrieved from Hawaii, and that the image the White House released could not have been a scanned image of the document retrieved from Hawaii. This suggests that a forgery was completed on U.S. government property using government personnel and resources in the District of Columbia."
Or, alternately, suggests you're a deranged wackadoodle who sees conspiracy everywhere they turn.
"The point is is that we all know about the felony, and now its our duty to report it. To everyone in civil or military authority. This could include:
Sheriff
Judges or grand juries
National Guard Commander
Governor
State representatives
Secretary of State
State and Federal Attorney General
State and Federal judges
Congressmen and Senators
Pick one, pick some, pick them all. "
And so what do you plan to do??
"Citing your responsibility as an American citizen under Title 18, you are reporting what you saw on April 27, 2011 and what and how you know the image is a forgery. Include, attach or cite the best references.
Thousands of FAXES requiring the ‘civil or military authority’ secure an FBI investigation into the forgery puts pressure on them all…its a start on keeping them on their toes.
Tens of thousands of FAXES with the language of Title 18 front and center will remind those staffers picking up the FAXES of their responsibilities too."
*Blink* THAT'S YOUR GREAT IDEA?? SENDING OUT JUNK FAXES TO ANYONE YOU CAN THINK OF??? And how, just how, do you intend to make these different from the thousands of other junk faxes from other, different, conspiracy nutcases that they get all the time???
"Because the people are coming…"
Ooooh, threaty.
"drkate
May 28, 2011 at 12:00 am
This is using the law against them, for once."
O RLY?? You mean laws like the Junk Fax Prevention Act of 2005??
"no-nonsense-nancy
May 28, 2011 at 6:37 am
No candidate will beat Obama unless they use the eligibility issue."
And yet none of the possible candidates in the GOP are touching it with a ten-foot pole.
"Troy
May 28, 2011 at 8:40 am
I have to disagree….I believe that any GOP candidate can easily beat Obama….It’s not that people are going to be happy about voting for the GOP candidate….It’s that people are going to come out in droves to vote AGAINST Obama, no matter who the candidate is"
O RLY?? Gallup, 28 May 2011
Obama - 50%
GW Bush - 64%
Clinton - 47%
GHW Bush - 76%
Reagan - 46%
Carter - 32%
And in a matchup against a generic GOP candidate, Obama leads 43% to 40%
"Quantum Leap
May 28, 2011 at 11:29 am
...The experiment to have a “black man” AS PRESIDENT (of which he is not-he’s a mulatto) FAILED. DON’T EVER PUT A WEIRDO racist ON THE BALLOT AGAIN."
Racist much??
....Also, no one can read a teleprompter like obat. People call him intelligent, you can train a monkey to type; they trained obat to read. He does not ever write his speeches."
Again, racist much??
27 May - And JB Williams uses the Pest and eFail to rant against the current GOP candidates.
"For over two years now, a mountain of evidence has been collected and released on the Internet proving numerous ways that Barack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born citizen” eligible for the office of President and Commander-in-Chief."
If by "mountain of evidence" you mean "a steaming pile of lies, falsehoods, and conspiracy claims, all without the slightest amount of credible evidence or facts to back them up with", then yes.
"If GOP candidates are not willing to take on this most vital issue to the future of freedom, liberty, decency, transparency and constitutional self-governance, what else should voters count on those candidates to do on behalf of the people?"
Well, they could stay home and make new tinfoil hats, and leave the job of voting to those citizens who actually are sane.
28 May - Oh charming. Not only a useless video, but wow, let's use stereotypes as well!
The video was made by Dean Haskins, a long-time birther who was behind the so-called "Restore the Constitutional Republic" site back in 2009.
And what a surprise, "birtherreport.com" is also pimping the video. Birds of a feather.....
29 May - A second memo from Congressional Research Service, dated 18 March 2010, goes farther in disproving the de Vattelists and COLB deniers.
(Scribd link here) The copy is pretty poor though.
29 May - Seditionist Sharon Rondeau claims to have gotten another death threat.
"The following message was sent to the FBI through a secure connection established to investigate death threats against the editor of The Post & Email and others associated with the publication"
Translation - she used the usual public tip line. Or sent it to the FBI agents Walter Fitzpatrick has been harassing, one of the two.
"Obama’s Brother
(redacted)
(redacted)
Submitted on 2011/05/28 at 11:28 PM
God damn you Sharon, I swear to GOD you will die before this year is over. I’ve had enough of your ugly a**. You need to be punished for eternity for your sins."
Mind you, I think it's odd that someone would make a theat and block out the word "ass", but if someone did send this to her, please stop. Why stoop to the birthers level??
"You should also be investigating Obama’s use of a Connecticut social security number and possible multiple social security numbers; the forged images he has presented to the public as “proof” of a birth in Hawaii which did not occur; and his closed college records which most likely would reveal that he attended school as a foreign student with foreign student aid.
If these things were investigated, then the death threats against me and others would stop, as the proof of our case would be made."
Maybe if you could present actual EVIDENCE to back up your claims, rather than a bunch of unfounded conspiracy theories from so-called internet "experts", then maybe someone would take you seriously.
"Obama’s Brother
(redacted)
(redacted)
Submitted on 2011/05/28 at 11:27 PM
Someone needs to rise up and SHOOT people like Sharon Rondeau in the head … I swear to god I’m going to do it myself if she keeps posting illegal calls for military coups.
She needs to bleed to death on the floor of her house IMMEDIATELY… The time is now!! Shoot this putrid b**** from hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Look, I don't like the Pest and eFail's sedition or calls for military coups anymore than any other sane American. But assuming this "threat" is real and not just Rondeau ginning up support, someone needs to knock it the hell off.
Again, why stoop to their level??
Mind you, I find it ironic that someone who routinely calls for the Democratically-elected legitimate President of the United States to be overthrown in a military coup, calls for arrest and convictions of those who support Obama, and generally spits on everything this country stands for, to get upset because someone responds like for like. But still and again, why stoop to their level?? We're better than they are.
And in comments:
"DemNoMore says:
Sunday, May 29, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Obots are always very nice “How ya doing today?” when they get out of their cars with the O sticker on them (the one that has replaced the donkey). I used to be a Democrat. Today, they are evil and wicked and their true selves come through when they blog. Their true personalities show and they are the lowest form of evil. They are mutants."
I wonder how much of that is reaction to the hatred and venom you're more than likely spewing at them?
"One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet says:
Sunday, May 29, 2011 at 11:49 AM
WE GET TO PROFILE."
You do??
"If it looks like a Muslim."
Racist much?
"a cop,"
O RLY?
"a government employee,"
Again, O RLY?
"a Obama supporter,"
My goodness. I think he means me. (and about 69 million other Americans.
"a politician,
someone who is OBVIOUSLY STUPID (like a cop or any other government employee),
well, there you have it, don’t you?"
Someone has a whole big bag full of issues here.
30 May - The Pest and eFail goes apedump over the second CRS memo.
"In reality, there is no mystery. Day-by-day, week-by-week and revelation by revelation, the empirical evidence accumulates that the man now occupying the White House may very well be plainly ineligible to do so. "
*What* "empirical evidence"??? There's never been any "empirical evidence" the birthers have presented.
"1. In order for a person to be born a “natural born Citizen” under Art. 2, Sec. 1, Cl. 5 – the “eligibility clause” of the Constitution as it was understood by the Founders under The Law of Nations by E. de Vattel, a legal scholar during the years the Constitution was conceived, drafted and executed – both such person’s parents must be, at that time, United States citizens and no U.S. Supreme Court case has held otherwise;"
Funny how this is not reflected in either the wording of the Constitution or in US law.
"Indeed, while the CRS Memo goes to great lengths to expound upon the fact that, for example, a well-known legal treatise popular in England in colonial times, Blackstone’s Commentaries, was “… widely known in the Colonies…” and that certain commentators believed that the “… Framers had a broad view of the term ‘natural born’ and considered all foreign-born children of American citizen parents eligible for the Office of the Presidency…,” (see CRS Memo at fn. 44 and accompanying text), the CRS Memo is devoid of any reference at all to the teachings of de Vattel, even in a dismissive way."
Maybe because the use of "Natural Born Citizen" under US law and the US Constitution owes nothing to de Vattel??
"It would take far more time and energy than this writer presently possesses to dissect all of the components of the CRS Memo and explain why, at the end of the day, its ultimate conclusions are highly questionable and suspect, thus demanding far more examination than has thus far been expended on the issues. Suffice it to say, however, that there are certain aspects of the memo which are extremely problematic and troubling and which thus both invite and necessitate more scrutiny. "
Translation - "Wahh, they didn't give my pet theory any crediblity, wahhh!"
30 May - Based on this rant by "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet", I'm starting to suspect the birtherstani are getting upset that law enforcement hasn't given into their demands to arrest Obama.
"The number one requirement of a cop today is to follow orders without question, to follow in the footsteps of the World War II German S.S. troops who tossed babies in the air and caught them with their bayonets. You got it: the ranks are filled purposely with low I.Q. goons, who think nothing of following illegal orders, because the very concept of questioning any order is anathema to them."
Wonder if someone just got a visit from law enforcement due to his rants and demands?? Or just got ticketed in a traffic stop.
"It used to be that one of the qualifications of being a member of a police force was to be ex-military, but even though the level of acceptance has deteriorated over the years for the military, nowadays they’re still too smart to be policemen."
Actually military service has never been one of the qualifications to be a police officer.
"What you and I are left with, then, is that our police force is not as smart as we are, is unable to think out of the box (“I can open-carry. I have a permit” is a little too much for them) and are armed."
Get the feeling that "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet" was waving around his gun inappropriately or tried to "open carry" into a place that firearms are restricted in??
" It’s about making our world less safe by making the taxpayer fund a group of Neanderthals who will turn on us in less than a nanosecond, as Tennessee cops do to out-of-staters traveling through on the interstate."
Yep, traffic stop, and either the police officer saw he was carrying or OPOVV mouthed off to the police.
"And whom do we have to thank for this dumbed-down police force? Would you believe Affirmative Action?"
Racist much??
30 May - Lawrence Sellin seems to be on a treason-filled roll of late.
"If the people at the highest levels of government believe that they can, whenever they wish, commit law evasion, what can ordinary citizens do?
We can hope that the cover-up surrounding Obama’s alleged crimes begins to unravel and honest, courageous and patriotic leaders step forward to root out those complicit, eliminate the endemic corruption and guide the country back on the right course.
Otherwise, left with no alternatives, open dissent will grow and chaos will ensue.
Keep your powder dry."
And in comments:
"Our country's major problem is a (so called) news media that is nothing more than a leftist propaganda machine. What this country needs is a version of "Los Pepes" to "neutralize" the Judge Sumis (pl) and the most dishonest members of the "media"' (about 90%).
As long as the "media" pumps out nonstop hate towards anyone decent, the most we can hope for is an occasional election win.
Posted by J.H.Insley on 05/31 at 11:52 AM"
So what was "Los Pepes"?? A vigilante group with ties to the police.
Charming.
"Both satan and mohammed promised their followers the world...Obama is here to help those followers take possession of America..
Posted by ruth on 05/30 at 12:55 PM"
*Chuckle*
30 May - Failed scientologist and writer Sher Zieve falls into the racism we've come to expect from the Pest and eFail.
“As this illegal act by the Obama regime (also see “Obama Syndicate”) was never met by any real or lasting resistance from US Congressional leaders or the old Marxist-Leninist court system, the US Constitution was effectively rendered null and void and the United States of America–along with the world–entered into what has come to be known as the “Second Dark Age” of mankind. The legislators and bulk of the US population’s inattention to this criminal act and others regarding both the country’s dissolution of additional liberties and individual economic wealth are said to be the principal reasons the USA was topple–from within–as a world power. This is believed to have been the beginning of the rise of humanity’s forceful suppression and enslavement worldwide.”
Someone needs their meds adjusted.
"Obama’s DOJ has ruled that voter suppression by the New Black Panthers and others against white people and non-Obama supporters will be tolerated and accepted. "
Racist much??
"Obama’s unions (who heavily contributed to his 2008 campaign) are now filing court cases to effectively shut down businesses that open new divisions in right-to-work States. The latest is Boeing. Due to these thug tactics, those businesses that have not already done so may now be forced to relocate to other countries"
You mean those that didn't already during the Bush administration??
"The supplementary tragedy is that, along with the rest of us, even those who voted for Obama will eventually be enslaved. But, I suppose they are already embracing their own forced servitude under the tyrant and the other ruling elites."
Whole National Geographic full of issues here.
And in comments:
"SUSANM says:
Monday, May 30, 2011 at 7:50 PM
I THINK THE TIME HAS COME FOR ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS GET READY FOR A WAR WITHIN….(AND I HAVE SAID THAT FOR 2 YRS.) OUR FIRST STOP IS WASHINGTON D.C. IN FRONT OF ”OUR WHITE HOUSE” AMERICA, WE CAN NOT WAIT FOR THE SO CALLED GOVERNMENT IN D.C. TO STEP UP AND BE MEN?"
"Wahhh! I want my coup!! Where's my coup!! WAHHH!!!"
And then there's
"Bob Uda says:
Monday, May 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM
Yes, the USA is already a quasi-totalitarian state. We must depose the tinhorn dictator on November 6, 2012, or we will become a fully totalitarian state."
Which isn't good enough...
"Watchdogman says:
Monday, May 30, 2011 at 4:06 PM
Why wait until then? There are other methods we can use!"
O RLY?? Like what???
"RacerJim says:
Tuesday, May 31, 2011 at 8:32 AM
Why wait until then indeed! This July 4th would be the ideal time…hundreds, maybe thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, hopefully a couple hundred thousand American patriots surrepticiously wandering amongst the usual 500,000+ 4th of July revelers on the National Mall anxiously awaiting the moment…"
Ooooh, threaty.
31 May - "Lame Cherry" gives their translation of "Soebarkah"
"As an exclusive as only found here though, the name Soebarkah is a confirmation of adoption, Obama's Muslim status and a sort of strange Islamic prophecy of the day Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in that it was not in the stars to last."
O RLY??
"Soetoro signifies the adoptive father as Lolo Soetoro. Bar is obvious in Barack, but also links to the Islamic Aramic in bar means SON. So we have confirmation of this is the Son of Soetoro.
The Kah is interesting in Indonesian, KAH translates as WAS. In names, KAH is added as a suffix to form a question of "Who?"
So what SOE BAR KAH means is literal, and I'm genuinely surprised with even Indonesian "experts" asked to explain all of this, that none of them had any comprehension of the language of their own nation.
Soe Bar Kah means literally Who is this, but the son of Soetoro."
So does "Lame Cherry" translate into "What is this, a steaming pile of crap??"
"Just as Johnson in Scandinavian means Son of John, and Johnsen in Dutch means the same in different dialect. What this name on a legal document filed in America as a passport for Barack jr. is his legal manifestation that he is Indonesian, not American, as he has renounced his entire ties which bind to these United States."
Except that whole thing that a minor US citizen can't renounce their US citizenship.
"This name Soebarkah is the legal document which would hold up in Indonesian courts as it requires no other documentation. It appearing on a US document signifies it was in use as Obama's defining name outside these United States.
This is Barack Hussein Obama's legal name. The meaning of it disqualifies him from the White House and exposes him as criminal fraud, as this child had it explained to him completely what this name meant in adoption, Islam and Indonesia, that he was no longer American."
Except that under Islamic adoption practices, an adopted child would NEVER take on the name of the adoptive father because that would sever the ties between the birth father and his family. "Lame Cherry" shows an unsurprising amount of ignorance here.
"This is why this kid wanted to be "president of some country" as he knew damn well even then that America was off limits due to his being British and Indonesian, but the Empire had many colonies he could be president of one day if he slummed around far enough"
Racist much??
"I find it hard to believe that this blog is the only forensics linguistics expert in all of this, but there you have for the first time someone pulling apart this tri part name in explaining what the prefix, base name and suffix mean for the total legal adopted name."
I'm not surprised they came up with this latest grunt sculpture that they're passing off as scholarship, but it's particularly shoddy, even for Lame Cherry
31 May - The Pest and eFail continues their whine about the second CRS memo.
"So, according to the CRS – again, the federal agency claiming to be possessed of “the nation’s best thinking” – as long as a person’s parents are not in the official diplomatic service of a foreign nation here, anyone born to such parents on United States soil (or soil over which it exercises jurisdiction) will qualify as a ‘natural born Citizen’ of the United States and thus be eligible to be president."
That is how US law, the US Constitution, and 200+ years of case law have defined it, yes.
"This means, of course, that anyone – from the “garden variety” undocumented pregnant immigrant seeking only employment here to support a family to any fanatical pregnant terrorist intent on the destruction of the nation as we know it – who can make it here and give birth here, can produce an offspring eligible to serve as president under the “natural born Citizen” clause of the Constitution."
Quite the flight of fancy there.
"Creat a seperate state for all the Homosexuals and Lesbians along with the liberal teachers and send them there. Lybia, Syria, Sudan sound like good candidates. I could keep this person very busy."
I suggest he get a spelling lesson from one of those homosexual lesbian liberal teachers, before he deports them all.
Posted by: Shay | May 31, 2011 at 01:54 PM
Several of these nuts are going to cross the line and try to cause harm at some point. Let's just hope that the proper authorities and the Secret Service are up to monitoring these crazies adequately.
Posted by: G | May 31, 2011 at 05:57 PM
I'd rather live with the Homosexuals and Lesbians and liberal teachers than these terrifying bigots.
Posted by: ellid | May 31, 2011 at 06:19 PM
I'm coming more and more to believe that "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet" isn't what he seems to be. His shtick makes me think of Hal Turner, who mouthed similar anti-government agitprop, and who turned out to be - surprise, surprise - an FBI informant. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if OPVV is also playing both sides.
Posted by: MarkM | June 02, 2011 at 01:25 PM