In today's dispatches, Lep Donofrio courts the wrath of the birtherstani. Padawan Pauly comes up with a new legal theory even more crazy than his Sacred Sperm of Sovereign American Citizenship one.
Jerome Corsi's book seems to be gliding like a brick over the best sellers lists. And the Pest and eFail appeals to Sheriff Joe Arpaio to save them from the scary black man in the White House.
9 June - Leo Donofrio might find himself kicked out of the Birther Kool Kids Klub if he keeps up telling the truth like this.
"So here we see the US Government looking into an application for Visa extension by Soetoro. Further review of those documents reveal that the officials did not trust everything in Soetoro’s application. Therefore, the Government officials wanted to establish whether Obama Jr. was truly a US citizen. They made a direct inquiry on this very issue. And they concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Again, this was established by “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office.
Having taken such an exhaustive look into Soetoro’s application, and especially considering the government’s examination of Obama’s citizenship, I don’t see how the government officials involved would have overlooked the fact that Stanley Ann Dunham would have been out of the US and far away in Kenya on the date W.L. Mix established as DOB for Obama – if Obama had been born in Kenya."
"I don’t see how two sets of US government officials, independently investigating the relationships between Soetoro and Dunham on one hand, and Obama Sr. and Dunham on the other, could both fail to reveal that Dunham would have been in Kenya at the time of Obama Jr.’s birth. The government officials would’ve had access to Dunham’s passport files. The contents thereof were relevant to the investigations since she was married to both men, and the marriages were relevant to immigration status, as was the issue of children.
Those who persist in accusing Obama of not being born in Hawaii do so in light of official government investigations, between 1961 and 1966, which established his birth, to the satisfaction of inquisitive government immigration officials, as having taken place on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA.
As far as I’m concerned, the issue is settled with a massive presumption of authenticity. I do not see how the information published by WND regarding US immigration official W.L. Mix’s investigation into Obama’s US citizenship flew so far below the radar. That is the single most important fact I have come across that establishes Obama’s birth in Hawaii."
Oh dear. The birthers are going to remove him from their holiday card lists at this rate.
"If no passport issuance documents can be found for Obama’s mother prior to his date of birth, then he could not have been born in Kenya.
I am not a person who needs to see anymore proof. I believe now and have always believed President Obama was born in Hawaii. But if you still have doubts, this line of inquiry is crucially necessary."
9 June - Padawan Pauly usually doesn't disappoint in the crazy sweepstakes, and his latest at the Pest and eFail is worth a few laughs. His latest and greatest scheme?? Get county sheriffs to control ballots and whom can vote for who.
No, really, take a look.
"The people are sovereign people; they have sovereign political rights. It’s the county sheriff’s job to protect the people in his county, including their political rights, from an unlawful election that has overthrown the Constitution. It’s the sheriff’s job to protect that. Therefore, the first sheriff who has the guts to stand up and say, “There will be no election held in our county which permits Barack Hussein Obama on the ballot. We will use force of arms, if we have to, to prevent him from being on the ballot” could begin an avalanche."
Yes. An avalanche of FBI and state law enforcement as said sheriff finds himself removed from power for violation of state and federal voters rights acts among other things.
"Therefore, it is the sheriff’s job to prevent this from happening by standing up and saying, “Obama will not be allowed to be on any ballots in my county. No polling place will be allowed to function with his name on the ballot.”"
Which would be the last thing said sheriff would say before being removed from office.
"If someone tries to sue the sheriff for making that decision, what will the person say? They have no legal grounds to stand on."
"If the sheriff has the natural law argument on his side and understands what a natural born Citizen is and that you have to have a citizen father, what is the other side going to say?"
I think they'll be too busy laughing while the Judge figures out what the procedure is for having the sheriff committed on a 5150 or equivalent.
"Now if the citizens of the county can’t rely on their sheriffs to do it, then they can take the law into their own hands, because if the people go there with guns and the sheriff tries to take over the polling places and prevent them, you have a militant overthrow of the people’s rights. "
Not to mention, again, violations of the US Constitution, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
"So it really is up to the sheriff."
Yes, to arrest those breaking the law by disrupting or attempting to shut down a polling place.
"If the sheriff would stand up and do this, the first thing he would need to do is get on the phone to the governor, the secretary of state, and the state attorney general and tell them that there is a problem: “My constituents in my county have sovereign political rights that I am bound to protect, and Mr. Obama is not a natural born Citizen. By creating a government with him as the president, you have a non-representative government where you cannot pass any valid laws; therefore, with a non-representative government, the people will have lost their government. They are also being forced into taxation for laws passed for which they did not give their consent; therefore, any new taxes to pay for those laws is involuntary servitude, which is slavery. I’m not going to allow slavery in my county; I was not elected sheriff to institute slavery.”"
And the second thing that happens is that the governor and secretary of state gets on the phone to the county commissioners and the state police to inform them that said sheriff has stated their intent to break the law, while the state attorney general goes to court to get an injunction prohibiting the sheriff from doing any such thing.
"The first person who stands up and says, “You will not put this man on the ballot because I will close those polling places if you do in order to protect and prevent this from happening, which is my duty and my obligation…” As soon as that happens...."
...said sheriff is out of a job as the state comes in to remove them from office and restore the people's right to vote.
Oh, and he's still touting the Sacred Sperm of Citizenship.
"It’s true that if both your parents are citizens and you’re born on the soil, you are a natural born Citizen, and there is no doubt that that person can be president. That’s not a privilege, but rather, under the Laws of Nature, it doesn’t require the soil or your mother"
"But they’ve done it; that’s exactly what they’ve done by using the soil to justify it. In order for a person born on the soil to a foreign father to be a natural born Citizen, the soil would have to become pregnant, to gestate a child, and the child would have to come out of the soil. Then you would have a sovereign representative of the country, and we all know that that’s not where babies come from. They don’t come from the soil, and they don’t come from foreign jurisdictions; they come from your mother, who was impregnated by your citizen father. That’s where you get your sovereign political rights. That’s just the way nature is."
Actually, since it's far easier to determine who the mother is than the father, then "natural law" would have the mother determining citizenship rather than the father.
Why do I suspect Padawan Pauly has......issues.....when it comes to women?
"What I know is this: If all it takes is being born on the soil to become president, that means that any foreigner, for instance, from Mexico, can come here, never get United States citizenship, have a child on the soil who becomes a U.S. citizen, and that child can become president"
Which is exactly why those on the right yell about "anchor babies" because that's exactly what can happen. Jus Soli - if the child is born in the US, they are at birth a native-born US citizen, no matter what the citizenship of the parents are. (unless the parents are here diplomatically that is)
"Show the sheriff that it is his duty to do this, and if he’s not going to do it, then he becomes the actual violent force that is overthrowing the government in his refusing to stop this. He would become complicit. In fact, the word “treason” is defined as an organized military overthrow of your government, waging war against the people."
No, the word you're looking for is "Coup d'état"
"My understanding of the law is that any sheriff can go in and physically seize those polling places if they put Obama on the ballot. They can physically prevent people from voting for him."
Your "understanding" of the law is severely lacking at best. Because the minute any law enforcement office attempted to do those things, they would be removed from authority and finding themselves facing state and federal election rights and civil rights charges.
"I think if the sheriffs stand up and make that threat to the state government, the state government will be bound to prevent putting Obama on the ballot. Then they’ll be forced to do their job. They’ll stand up and say, “Well, all the sheriffs aren’t going to allow it anyway, and actually they’re right; it’s their duty and the law is on their side. We have no leg to stand on, and look how bad we’re going to look if we try to fight against that…therefore, I guess we better go along with the program and not allow Obama to be on the ballot in the next election."
So all those birther bills that failed to become law were meaningless because the state could just up and decide "naww, we don't want that uppity boy on the ballot", right??
"Yes, that’s what I think. He would get the national spotlight…”This sheriff is not going to allow Obama on the ballot…” Can you imagine all those cries of racism and how he would be attacked"
And rightly so.
"But then they would have to listen to his side, and the truth would come out. People would start saying, “This guy is making an awful lot of sense.” And then he’d contact another sheriff, and then more and more would get involved and say, “Yeah, you know, you’re right; I’m going to do the same thing in my county.” It would snowball. Pretty soon, they would not be able to contain it. That’s what I’m seeing."
If that's what you're seeing, stop pouring NyQuil and Thunderbird over your Capt' Crunch in the morning.
10 June - Donofrio is certainly off the card list at Dr, Kate's cesspool.
June 10, 2011 at 4:22 am
Have you seen Leo Donofrio’s latest conceited crap??"
Funny how it wasn't "conceited crap" when it was something you all wanted to hear.
June 10, 2011 at 8:02 am
Thank you for posting that response. I thought Leo was done, now of course he has to throw his own wrench into everyone else’s work."
June 10, 2011 at 9:47 am
You’re very welcome, Kate. It’s like ‘s Leo’s throwing a tantrum: “If I can’t win my argument, I’ll make sure no one else wins theirs!”
Yep, he's about to get tossed out of the Kool Kids Klub.
10 June - So how is Swiftboat Liar Jerome Corsi's book doing?
The New York Times best seller list for 19 June has it at......well, actually they don't.
So nowhere on the top 35. What about Amazon?
If I was Corsi, I'd be embarrassed. But then again, Corsi has no shame to get embarrassed with.
10 June - And in response to Padawan Pauly's latest fight of insanity, Robert Quinn follows Pest and eFail tradition in a whiney, demanding letter. This time it's "Please Sheriff Joe Arpaio, save us from the uppity darkie".
"Please accept this letter as a request for an investigation into whether the new Certificate of Live Birth for President Obama, produced on 4/25/11 by Director Fuddy of the Hawaiian Department of Health and placed on the White House website on 4/27/11, is a forensically valid image copied from a page in a open book of birth certificates, or a computer generated composite made up to look like a copy of a page in an open book."
And why would Sheriff Arpaio do this? (well, other than the fact he's corrupt as sin)
"The evidence it is a forgery is overwhelming and irrefutable. In support of this charge I offer the attached Affidavit of Douglas B. Vogt, a well qualified expert to conduct a forensic analysis as to the authenticity of this new document the president has proudly placed upon the White House web site and will be used to prove his eligibility to run for president in Arizona’s 2012 election"
"Well Qualified?" What, Vogt brought the long form to a mystery spot on Mt Sinai in an alternate reality, and used pyramid power to determine it's validity???? Because that's about what Vogt is "qualified" to do.
"Forgery of a public document constitutes a class B felony in Hawaii and multiple violations under U.S. Code section Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 47, Sec.1028. Your immediate attention to this matter is requested, as this forgery will be used to justify and permit election fraud in Arizona’s 2012 presidential election process."
First off, Arpaio has no say in what the State of Arizona allows on their ballot.
Second off, Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution applies. Since the State of Hawaii has confirmed the long form as valid, the other states have to accept it as such.
"In conclusion I want to make it un-questionably clear. This forgery complaint is not made against President Obama at this time..."
"...but that will change once we figure something out to accuse him of."
"My specific request of your office is that you have a recognized expert in this field, from either within or outside your office, to examine this birth certificate on the White House web site and issue an affidavit as to the certificates validity and forward the affidavit to Arizona’s Governor, Attorney General, Department of State, and the FBI. "
And what happens when they all go "yep, it's valid, no problems found"? Oh, right, they're all part of the conspiracy too, eh??
"If our constitutionally independent Sheriff’s will conduct their own independent forensic examination’s of this totally fake birth certificate and officially issue news release’s along with the affidavit’s of the examiners findings, this media boycott will be broken and the media will be forced to cover this issue."
And what happens when the "constitutionally independent Sheriff’s conduct their own independent forensic examination" and say "yep, it's valid"?? Do you dismiss them as well??
Yeah, you more than likely would at that.
You know, we've been seeing a lot of the "we must do everything in our power to keep Obama off the ballot" messages in birtherstan of late. I think it's finally starting to sink in that they don't have the numbers they want to believe they do.
At the end of March, the birthers were flying high. Surely some of the birther bills would pass, Corsi's book was going to be a game changer, Donald Trump was hammering away at Obama. Why that dusky usurper could be out by summer, right???
Except that didn't happen. Between the release of the long form, the skewering that Trump got at the White House Correspondents dinner, the failure of Corsi's book, and the execution of Osama bin Laden, the birthers have been marginalized.
And for all of Dr. Kate's dreams of a football stadium full of birthers, the birtherstani dreams of millions of patriots and the US military joining up to remove Obama from office, they first realized the military wasn't on board, and now they're realizing they barely have the numbers at any of their rallies to fill a Little League ballfield.
With that comes the realization that none of the GOP candidates that have said they were running are particularly catching on, Palin's negatives outweigh her positives among most Americans, and Obama's poll numbers are right on line with other presidents at this stage of their first terms, and they've got a sudden sinking feeling there's no way they can legally keep Obama off the ballot......
....which is why they're now coming up with things like closing polling places, trying to keep suspected "Obots" from casting their ballots, all acts about as un-American as one can possibly get. Oh, yes, there will be a couple lawsuits to keep Obama off the ballot in various states, and those lawsuits will be dismissed. And the birthers know they will be dismissed.
Which is why the meme is now "keep Obama off the ballot, don't allow people to vote for him, do whatever you can to stop it!". Because in three years these "patriots" have taken a great big steaming dump over the US Constitution and everything else this country has stood for, what's a little unconsitutional civil rights and voting rights violations to them???