In today's dispatches, World Nut Daily keeps claiming forgery. Keyes v Bowen is conferenced for the Supreme Court. Walter Fitzpatrick shows he's just as much an immature toddler when told "no" as Dr. Orly.
The Pest and eFail publishes a letter to the Supreme Court from Gordon Epperly, which boils down to "how dare they allow Negros and Women to hold office like they were human beings or something like that". But the Pest and eFail isn't racist, oh no..... And Dr. Kate complains about being called "racist" and then goes racist on the reader.
The biggest nugget is Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi's chock full o' libel attack piece on the gentleman that runs "The Fogbow". An attack piece that should, in a fair and just world, end up with "Foggy" owning World Nut Daily, Corsi's home, and Joseph Farah's supply of mustache dye. And Walter Fitzpatrick joins in with a whine on his own.
You know, in the last few days we've seen Corsi go after Foggy. Sam Sewell continues to try and harass me in my professional and private life. We had Tracy's little video a while back.
What that's telling me is that the birtherstani are now in full damage control mode.
Their lawsuits have failed
Their fake "grand juries" have failed
Their fake "trials" have failed
The birther bills - fail
All their various "Great White Hopes" (Issa, Trump, Vogt, Deal, etc.) - fail.
Some of Dr. Kate's most recent articles have dealt with trying to recruit more birthers - which tells me they've realized that they don't have anywhere close to the numbers or support they thought they did.
All the confident predictions, hopes, and outright demands for a military coup - fail.
And all during this time, it's been the debunkers patiently explaining why they're wrong and predicting the outcomes of their attempts. Which means they've seen us win each time they've failed.
And now they're lashing out at the only people they can - the debunkers who have made sure their claims, theories, myths, stories, and lies have been exposed to the light of day.
They know damn well what Obama's approval ratings are. They know that they've failed to gain traction among most Americans. They've seen the crop of GOP candidates, and they're cringing because they know damn well unless things get suddenly, rapidly worse in this country, Obama's going to get a second term. Which scares the crap out of them.
And, deep down inside, most of them know they're lying. Know they're going against the Constitution and every principal this country was founded on. For all they scream "fraud!" "forgery!" "de Vattel!", they know they're wrong. And so they project their actions on the debunkers. They accuse the debunkers of the same things they themselves know they're doing. And they lash out and attack when all else fails.
It's going to be a bumpy ride the next 17 months. Let's be careful, be safe, keep our ducks in a row and our powder dry. Because we're in the right.
And the birthers know we're in the right. Which is what pisses them off all the more.
15 June - World Nut Daily keeps trying to explain away the long form as a forgery. The latest attempt?
"Retired Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, the chief of Stand Up America, a national security expert and Fox News contributor, says the "Certificate of Live Birth" released in April by the White House as "proof positive" of President Obama's Hawaiian birth is a forgery"
And your proof??
"...but the FBI is covering the fraud and no one in Congress is willing to tackle the situation because of fears of a "black backlash" if the failings of the nation's first black president are revealed."
Suuurrrre they are.
"His actual birth certificate has never been found in Hawaii nor released from Hawaii hospital there, Kapiolani hospital there, if it in fact did exist."
Funny how the State of Hawaii disagrees with you.
"We've had three CIA agents, retired, and some of their analytical associates look at it, and all came to the same conclusion, that even the long-form was a forged document," Vallely said."
Nice claim. Evidence?
"Why won't the White House allow a team of independent professional forensic document examiners inspect and authenticate the original birth certificate document?"
Because anyone with a functioning brainstem sees the documentation from the State of Hawaii and goes "yes, this is legitimate".
"Vallely said he knows some would not be satisfied with anything the Obama administration would release, which is a problem, in itself, for the White House.
"That's true, because they don't believe he is eligible. You have a fairly growing contingent out there."
Yes, and Vallely is among those at the front of that pack.
"Obama's birth certificate – I've had retired CIA agents and other investigators go over the birth certificate that was produced and by far, 10 out of 10 have said it's a forgery."
Evidence to back this claim up??
"Only one day earlier, officials in the state of Hawaii claimed that the original of the Obama 'birth certificate' document – the document posted online by the White House – remains "confidential" and cannot be produced in response to a subpoena in a lawsuit over Obama's legitimacy."
Yeah, there's pesky things like "State Law" and "not a valid subpoena" getting in the way.
15 June - Walter Fitzpatrick is another birther who gets into a hissy fit when told "no"
"I know when Carl was arrested back in January and taken in to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Department, the buzz around the sheriff’s department was that I’m a crazy man, a kook."
And you know what? They're right.
"I sent Monroe County Tennessee Sheriff Bill Bivens a summons/subpoena to serve on Clerk Martha Cook ordering her appearance at during my next criminal trial.
Sheriff Bill Bivens refused to serve process as Bivens explains in his letter received this morning "
This is what Bivens wrote to Fitzpatrick. Note the part that says:
"All subpoenas must be issued by the Clerk of the Court according to T.C.A. 40-17-107"
And Fitzpatrick goes off on a tear as a result.
"Failure to serve the summons/subpoena on Martha M. "Martha" Cook obstructs and illicitly prohibits my participation in my own defense. Further it manifests a criminal violation of the Tennessee State Constitution.
I command you again to serve the summons/subpoena on Clerk Cook.
Conduct yourself accordingly."
No ego there, oh no sirree......
The sheriff might have to be careful. Fitzpatrick might put on his Capt' Crunch costume and go chew the sheriff out or something.
"I’m being followed; I’m being watched."
Paranoid much?
"If I were some kind of mental case, acting in a way that they’ve described in the citizen’s arrest or in anything else that I’ve done, they wouldn’t need to lie. "
Which is proof they're not lying.
"The Post & Email contacted Sweetwater Mayor Tim Yates’s office today to ask why Sheriff Bill Bivens allegedly told him that he and Fitzpatrick could not meet face to face. The secretary asked us to identify ourselves by name three times and state very specifically why we were calling. We did so. Our phone call was not returned."
Gee, I wonder why?
16 June - The Keyes v Bowen appeal has been distributed for conference by the US Supreme Court
"No. 10-1351
Title: Alan Keyes, et al., Petitioners
v.
Debra Bowen, California Secretary of State, et al.
Docketed: May 4, 2011
Lower Ct: Court of Appeal of California, Third Appellate District
Case Nos.: (C062321)
Decision Date: October 25, 2010
Discretionary Court
Decision Date: February 2, 2011
~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
May 2 2011 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due June 3, 2011)
May 25 2011 Waiver of right of respondent Debra Bowen, California Secretary of State to respond filed.
Jun 2 2011 Waiver of right of respondents President Barack Obama, and Vice-President Joseph Biden Jr. to respond filed.
Jun 2 2011 Waiver of right of respondents 55 California Presidential Electors of 2008, (Aleita Huguenin, et al.) to respond filed.
Jun 15 2011 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of September 26, 2011."
16 June - The birthers are in damage control mode as swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi flirts with libel in a World Nut Daily attack on "PJ Foggy" of Fogbow.
"At the center of the network of Obama radical activists who forged and distributed a fraudulent Kenyan birth certificate in August 2009 was former California lawyer William L. Bryan."
By "at the center" he means "was among the first to debunk it and show it to be a forgery when the birtherstani were wetting themselves over this latest "smoking gun"
"Under the cover of his username, Bryan and his associates have engaged in an aggressive campaign to disrupt any and all attempts to pursue legal challenges to Obama's eligibility,"
By "disrupt" he means "show exactly where the birthers are incorrect, misstating the law, or flat out lying"
"while seeking to ridicule in vile and abusive terms those who dare advance or support publicly such legal efforts."
Wow. I didn't know calling a fool a fool and a liar a liar counted as "vile and abusive".
"Following a Saul Alinsky "ends justify the means" rationale, Bryan, posting on the Internet as "PJ Foggy," has sought to protect Obama from legal scrutiny over eligibility questions by employing tactics designed to confuse, block, disorganize and discredit political enemies."
By using such horrible things like "facts", "evidence", "truth", and "reality".
"His tactics have even reached the point of filing legal motions encouraging judges to impose penalties for misconduct on lawyers such as Orly Taitz who dared challenge Obama in court."
Actually Dr. Orly can manage penalties all by herself, but pointing out where she's violating local rules or running up against contempt charges isn't a crime.
"In the break-up of Obamahub.net, two groups formed – Politijab.net and TheFogbow.com, two sites that compete for the title of being the go-to resource on the political left for "debunking the lies of the 'birther' movement and discussing birther antics."
Actually Fogbow sprang out of Politijab because the owner of Politijab wanted to focus more on general politics and less on birthers. Which is why all the Politijab birther forums and posts were migrated to Fogbow and the two sites share some overlap in users.
"In the email presented below as Exhibit 8, Bryan bragged in a way that suggested he and others had organized in-person efforts designed to interfere in the cases of police officer Ronald C. Dischler in Beaumont, Texas, and Navy Lt. Com. (Ret.) Walter Fitzpatrick III of Monroe County, Tenn., two clients of Orly Taitz who tried to bring eligibility cases against Obama"
In the Beaumont case, it was limited to contacting the Chief of Police for that city and informing him of his officer's statements. Said officer was then forced to retract said statements.
In Fitzpatrick's case, it was telling local law enforcement of Fitzpatrick's claims and his past history with law enforcement in the State of Washington.
In neither case was anything other than facts, truth, and real evidence provided to the authorities in question.
"Despite no longer being licensed to practice law, a legal brief prepared by Bryan has surfaced (Exhibit 9) demonstrating that he continues to file arguments with judges in cases in which Taitz has brought eligibility litigation, in a continuing effort to disrupt litigation and obtain court-imposed penalties upon her for misconduct."
Non attorneys can file briefs with the court when needed. Birthers do it all the freaking time.
"Bryan suggests he had advance inside information that suggested Kerchner's case would be rejected by the Supreme Court before the court had rendered any decision."
Yes, it's called "knowledge of the law" Plus taking note of all the other birther cases that have reached SCOTUS and failed.
Basically this article is an extended temper tantrum by Corsi over "how DARE the debunkers keep proving us wrong!! How dare they expose our lies! Who the HELL do they think they are???"
16 June - The Pest and eFail continues their tradition of whiney demanding letters. This one to Chief Justice John Roberts from the openly racist Gordon Epperly.
You know Rondeau, it's getting harder to take your claim that the Pest and eFail isn't racist when you give people like Epperly pixels to waste.
(Bold face mine)
"This letter is not presented as a “Case” or “Controversy” to a Court nor does this letter address the jurisdiction of the U.S. Supreme Court under Article III of the U.S. Constitution. This letter is personal and it is addressed to you as an “Officer of the United States” that has taken an “Oath of Office” to protect the United States Constitution."
Ooookay.
"I realize that at the time you administered the “Oath of Office” to President elect, Barack Obama Jr., you were handicapped in that you performed that honor with little or no time to get acquainted with your duties as a Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court."
Yeah, he had only been Chief Justice since September of 2005. Three years and four months is obviously just not enough time.
"I also realize that you had little or no time to get acquainted with Barack Obama Jr. and his qualifications that he must have had to hold the Office of President of the United States."
Except for all the birther lawsuits getting dumped on the Supreme Court in hopes that they could keep the scary black man out of office.
"Enclosed is a “Declaration of Sovereignty” of the People of the Alaska Republic addressing their concerns with the Sovereign Powers of the People and their governing body, the State of Alaska. Within this “Declaration of Sovereignty” the People stated their concerns of seeing an “Oath of Office” being administered to a Presidential elect that had no Constitutional qualifications to hold the Office of President of the United States. The People of the Alaska Republic expressed their concerns that Barack Obama Jr. is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States, a qualification for the Office of President of the United States."
No, Gordon Epperly stated his concerns that Obama was not a "natural born citizen", due to Gordon Epperly's belief that woman and non-whites are barred from holding office.
"For one to be a “natural born citizen,” the citizen must have unalienable Rights. Those who were born under the provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution have no unalienable Rights for the Fourteenth Amendment proclaims that the citizens thereof have only “Privileges” or “Immunities” that may be granted or rescinded by the Congress of the United States. Barack Obama Jr. is of Negro descent and thus he is a “Mulatto” and as such, Barack Obama Jr’s citizenship is founded upon the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, not “We the People” of the “Preamble” to the U.S. Constitution, he is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States. There are no provisions within the U.S. Constitution or any of its Amendments that grant Barack Obama Jr. the “Political Rights” to hold any Public Office of the United States. Barack Obama Jr. is not, nor has he ever been, the President of the United States. He is a “usurper” of Office."
And the Pest and eFail edges closer to "Stormfront" with posts like this. Hey Rondeau, still claiming you're NOT a racist??
"As you had the implied authority of Tradition to administered an “Oath of Office” to Barack Obama Jr. as President elect, then you must also have the authority to rescind that “Oath of Office.”
Doesn't work that way skippy.
"We, the People, expect you to publicly announce the removal of the unlawful “Oath of Office” that you administered to Barack Obama Jr. and announce that all Papers which were signed under the Seal of Barack Obama Jr’s signature as President of the United States are declared “null” and “void.”
Yeah, good luck with that. Let's see how that works for you.
"Because of the unlawful “Oath of Office” which you administered to Barack Obama Jr., many Presidential Candidates have been deceived into believing that they also have qualifications to hold the Office of President of the United States even though they are not “natural born citizens” of the United States."
Yeah, some are women and some are too dusky to be *real* Americans.
"Would the Office of the President of the United States pass on to the opponent Candidate of the Political Party that sponsored Barack Obama Jr.? If that would be true, then the Office of President would pass on to Presidential hopeful, Hillary Clinton. But as Hillary Clinton is a woman, her status of citizenship is founded upon the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Citizens of the Fourteenth Amendment are not “natural born citizens” of the United States nor has the U.S. Congress ever granted any woman citizen the “Political Right” by Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to hold any Public Office of the United States. Hillary Clinton is not qualified for the Office of President of the United States for being in want of Presidential qualifications of the U.S. Constitution. She is a “usurper” of Office of the Secretary of State of the United States."
I can see why Padawan Pauly likes Gordon Epperly so much now. I'm going to assume that neither of them have a love life that doesn't involve land lotion and kleenex.
"I have refused to Register to Vote as the Alaska Superior Court Judge, Larry Weeks, issued a “Court Order” wherein he declared that I, Gordon Warren Epperly, would not be allowed to Register or Vote in any Election in my Christian Name, but declared that if I wanted to participate in the Suffrage Privilege of Voting, I will have to register myself as a “Strawperson” for a government created GORDON W. EPPERLY."
Ah, the disjointed yelp of a "sovereign citizen" What, no "Gordon W.:Epperly"??
16 June - Over at Dr. Kate's cesspool.
"Political correctness is one of the ways the Obamas scammed their way into the White House…and it was employed with a vengeance to label anyone who questioned Obama as a ‘racist’."
Says the person who links to "Lame Cherry" and lets open racists though her soviet-style censorship.
"We should not hesitate to expose this threat to our country and call out the cowards who hide behind political correctness to advance their anti-human and anti-American agenda."
And what does she told up as evidence of such? This video:
*rolls eyes*
And comments:
"anonymouse
June 16, 2011 at 12:38 am
All muslims do is plot how to kill nonmuslims. That’s Islamotruthia."
Racist much?
Oh, and look, there are no levels too low for birthers to sink, as this comment to the World Nut Daily hitpiece Corsi spewed out shows.
"Troy
June 16, 2011 at 12:41 am
Is PJ Foggy, a.k.a. “Soggy Bottom Boy”, a pedophile?….Are those two of his victims in the photo?……I think maybe it is…..He even looks like a child molesting pedophile…..Hey Foggy, they just love those soggy bottoms in the penitentiary, where you, hopefully, end up at."
Then there's this fine example of how the birthers treat the rights of their fellow Americans.
"Troy
June 16, 2011 at 7:31 am
It really is this simple…..A certain mindset of people in this country require a good old fashioned ASS WHOOPIN’…..When will all of the so called “Tea Party” people and constitutionalists stop turning the other cheek?…..The “communists by proxy” have been begging for a fight and it’s past time to give it to them……There is no other way and anyone that thinks there is an alternative is just kidding themselves…..So much time has been wasted and so much aggravation has been needlessly endured, when all it will take is to start surrounding these idiots at their communist rallies and then let the ass whoopins commence."
"charlesmountain
June 16, 2011 at 9:51 am
Why can’t WND and Farah hold a three day birther convention in a large venue in either Washington or New York. Promo the hell out of it and invite all the major birthers and expert witness with all the evidence. Everybody..Taitz, Corsi, Vallejy etc..including all the bloggers and invites…Have Alex Jones bring his camera’s…the whole nine-yards."
Because, based on past birther events, you might find a better venue at a Motel 6 or Holiday Inn.
"heather
June 16, 2011 at 11:04 am
We would need our military on our side in DC–these thugs have our military, cops, and all first responders so brainwashed that they would stand with the thugs.
No, I believe our first responders and our military MUST be with us before any plans are made. They would only shoot to kill everyone marching–I trust no one at this point.
To go to DC and march around without a plan is suicide. Our military must step in as their oath tells them to do."
"Wahhh! I want my military coup! Where's my military coup???? WAHHHH!!"
"Troy
June 16, 2011 at 11:53 am
Heather, it’s going to take a “showdown” with DC to separate the good constitution loving soldiers and cops from the “career comes first” soldiers and cops……We have to get them identified by having them choose sides.
A few unstable, rogue robot cops and soldiers will fire on American citizens, but most will not…..In fact, any robocop that does fire on civilians could possibly be fired upon by his own crew.
There is no easy way to say this, but it is going to take some innocent civilians being shot down / murdered by our own government forces before “we the people” and constitution loving soldiers and cops stand up in unison and say, “NO MORE”……There is going to have to be some sacrifices / martyrs."
And Troy will wave his cheeto-stained fingers and cheerlead those attempts from the safety of his basement.
"heather
June 16, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Yes, Troy I understand all that you say—I am not saying not to “go” for it–I am saying we need our military with their “tools of war” on our side.
I believe its called EAT THEM BEFORE THEY EAT US!—
If this is your plan for a near approaching coup, thats all fine, I am with you but we need to “work” on this more and not on the blogs as they are reading everything. Never let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. No advance warning for them."
At least she admitted she's hoping for a coup.
16 June - And looks like Walter Fitzpatrick wants to whine at Corsi about teh ebil Foggy.
"The following email was sent to Dr. Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily, whose article today revealed the identity of the person who claims to be behind the events of April 20, 2010 in Madisonville, TN:"
You mean when several concerned American citizens informed law enforcement about a group of anti-American thugs that were threatening to "take over the courthouse"??
"SWAT teams from 7 (seven) surrounding Tennessee Counties deployed to Madisonville, Tennessee that day. Cost to the community here was in excess of $450,000.00 (nearly half-a-million dollars).
The Tennessee State Highway Patrol deployed in force setting up road-blocks on roads leading into Madisonville. The Highway Patrol deployed canine units.
There were roof-top sniper teams. Sniper teams view behind upper-story windows.
Local schools were locked-down.
Presiding Judge that day–J. Reed Dixon–was under Tennessee Highway Patrol armed escort.
Uniformed sheriffs and police were on the ground like ants at a picnic.
Sheriff and Police cruisers of every description ran bumper to bumper up and down the streets of Madisonville.
At least two helicopters were viewed overhead."
Let's see. You have a batch of militia types telling people they're going to arm themselves and go take over the courthouse to spring you from your arrest.
And you're surprised that law enforcement responded to that threat??
"I am sending this blind copy to the FBI duty agent I met with on 4 March 2011 by way of reporting Mr. Bryan’s crime to federal law enforcement."
Wouldn't that involve a crime being committed? Well, by anyone other than you that is??
"Myself and others to include The Post & Email Managing Editor Sharon Rondeau are the object of death threats."
Yeah, well join the club, skippy.
"Mr. William L. Bryan is the root of a great deal of criminal mischief. And yet, Mr. Bryan remains at large."
Maybe because he HASN'T BROKEN ANY LAWS! Unlike, oh, YOU!!!
"All this while the three knuckleheads (joined by other knuckleheads) are lookin’ at me as a “terrorist.”
Maybe because you're the one that's breaking the laws and harassing the courts and law enforcement? The one who's stated publically that he won't allow the police to take you alive? The one spouting off conspiracy theories? The one with a past criminal record that involves stalking and domestic violence?? Gee, I can't imagine why the police are looking at you.....
Oh, and he gives this as his signature:
"Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III
United States Navy Retired – Surface warfare – qualified for command-at-sea – Naval parachutist
Distinguished Military Graduate – Class of 1975 – United States Naval Academy
B.S. Naval Science, M.B.A. Technology Management
Eagle Scout – 23 June 1969 – Troop 508, Meiners Oaks, California"
Which has to do with what exactly??
I'm sure glad FitzPatrick included "Eagle Scout 1969" in his signature. It just makes him seem just that little bit more crazy.
Posted by: Tarrant | June 16, 2011 at 05:59 PM
The P&E is swirling round and round and round and . . . soon, it too will go ☟down, never to return.
Posted by: Bob | June 16, 2011 at 06:21 PM
The birthers are sure getting crankier and frothier in their hissy fits, aren't they?
It is perhaps, sadly inevitable that some more will snap and cross the line, either alone or in small groups.
I remain confident that any that try will be held accountable for their actions and that the most important thing we can all do is remain vigilant and resilient against them and report any potential dangers to the proper authorities.
Posted by: G | June 16, 2011 at 06:57 PM
My only objection to the article is the following :"Because, based on past birther events, you might find a better venue at a Motel 6 or Holiday Inn."
I attended a large wedding reception at a Holiday Inn, these kooks could not even fill the stage. lol
Posted by: milspec | June 16, 2011 at 07:18 PM
Admiral Fitzgibbons has always reminded me of the old comic strip by David Lynch: The Angriest Dog in the World.
"The dog who is so angry he cannot move. He cannot eat. He cannot sleep. He can just barely growl. Bound so tightly with tension and anger, he approaches the state of rigor mortis."
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
Posted by: Estiveo | June 16, 2011 at 08:50 PM
What they pulled on Foggy, whose posts I have read over on JREF, is too far. While for the most part I think that the birthers are funny...I worry about when personal details of debunkers get known. I don't expose anonymous birthers, and for them to write in a threatening manner really bothers me. Even if only 1 in 1000 will make true on their threats...that is still 1 that will harm someone.
I am remind of the case of Alan Berg who had numerous callers who threatened him, and one who finally did something. Which is why I am posting to simply remind all of us who are having our personal details broadcasted to be safe out there. Nothing wrong with being a little paranoid if it keeps you safe. Not saying to arm yourself, but always keep in check of your surroundings.
Posted by: jayray | June 16, 2011 at 11:45 PM
> then you must also have the authority to rescind that “Oath of Office.”
I wonder if he got that idea from the guy over at WND who called for the states to "decertify their electoral college votes".
They must really be desperate if they're in *such* ignorance of the law. I mean, this is crazy even by birthers standards.
The guy administering the oath of office "rescinds" it and the President is no longer President?
The state of Florida turns Democrat 1 year after "Gore vs. Bush", "decertifies" its electoral college votes and Gore becomes President?
Well, at least those are some crackpot theories that actually make you laugh. :-)
Posted by: The Magic M | June 17, 2011 at 02:50 AM
WND went after Rikker also...after pissing him off by suggesting he was the Tonto to PJ's Lone Ranger - the Robin to PJ's Batman, Billy to PJ's Captain America...oh yes, Rikker for anyone who wonders is (shhhhh) a Black guy.
You know, the Black guy is always the sidekick and not the leader.
This fits into the WASP mindset of the WND.
They have no clue what they hath wrought.. :)
Posted by: SueDB | June 17, 2011 at 06:03 AM
Oops PJ - Make that Foggy....ooopsie....
Posted by: SueDB | June 17, 2011 at 06:04 AM
SueDB:
That should have been Bucky to Captain America.
OK, I'm done being a geek for today.
Posted by: ASK Esq | June 17, 2011 at 09:01 AM
Spare me the "ooohhh scary old white people" nonsense. "everyone be vigil of grandpa dude".
Puuullease. Yea, 1 in 10,000 might do something. But that 1 in 10,000 will do something no matter what. If it wasn't this excuse they would find some other excuse. Stuff happens. So what are you gonna do? Cower and hide? Grow eyes on the back of your head?
Pulllease! Live your life. It's just too short to worry about these kooks. There will always be kooks. It's just a fact of life. Maybe you should get one and move on with it!
Posted by: Fred | June 17, 2011 at 09:35 AM
Here's an interesting exchange with Larry Sinclair on the WND forums ... Am I being too hard on him?
Larry Sinclair,
It's widely known that you have a criminal (felony) history of fraud. So does Rev. James Manning and several other birthers who start rumors about the president. Why is it that so many birthers are felons (involving crimes of DECEPTION) and why do so many other birthers take your word for it on the rumors you start?
Larry, It's a fair question. I know you say you're "a changed man"... I have a clean record and have never had it my heart to use and abuse people like you guys have. None of my friends or family have a record or are capable of the kind of things you've done. The fact is, you have been a "con man" for a large part of your life and spent a good amount of time in prison. You are CAPABLE of these malicious crimes of deception and fraud when most people aren't. People need to be made aware of the type of people who actually started many of the rumors about the president that are now passed around like they're the gospel truth by birthers.
Larry Sinclair replies
"Larry Sinclair · Regis University
First adamsolympia, I am not a "Birther" and have repeatedly made that clear. Second my past is forgery and theft. I have never tried to hide my past. You and those like you however have repeatedly posted claims that you yourself copied by others. My entire life time I have never been a "con man" as you claim, none of my charges have even the word "Fraud" in them. You like your friend continue to claim me to be a "con man" yet none of you can produce a single "con" you allege me to have performed, and you know why you can't, because there are NONE.
Maybe you should get your facts correct rather than simply repeating fabricated claims by the likes of Ben Smith and your "internet warrior friends."
to which I reply:
Well Duh, Larry. Forgery and theft are a form of FRAUD . (As in, crimes of deception) Thanks for helping me clear that up about you.
You're trying to con people into thinking "Forgery and theft" is not a fraudulent thing! You still have it in you... That's my point: You are the type of people who started the rumors about Obama that birthers gladly repeat without question to this day. They need to understand the type of person these types of rumors originated. I wish Lucas Smith, Rev James Manning and the other FELONS who started rumors about the president would post here as well, so we can clear this up. It's about credibility -- birthers have none.
Posted by: Dex | June 17, 2011 at 02:10 PM
Looks like Larry deleted all of his replies to me ... I guess he doesn't like being exposed. Probably realized he was exposing himself.
Posted by: Dex | June 17, 2011 at 03:15 PM
adamsolympia (signed in using Yahoo)
By the way, your whole act of deleting your replies when you realized you were being exposed just goes to show - you AREN'T a changed man. You are the same deceptive fraud you have always been.
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Dropped like the fly he is ...
Posted by: Dex | June 17, 2011 at 03:31 PM