In today's dispatches, the Pest and eFail parrots part of the Tea Party / Birther healthcare lawsuit, while a whiney letter demands to know why the Tea Party hasn't gone down the birther rabbithole. Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi finds a "new" "expert" with past experience in certain litterboxes. Cody Judy wants the birthers to pony up some money to give to him.
World Nut Daily does a birther press conference to announce their next waste of wood pulp, namely the court case "WND vs. The Big Meanies at Esquire Who Made Fun of Us!!" Lawrence Sellin complains Congress is lying, by which he means "isn't believing the birthers". And, of course, he continues to flog the "Second American Revolution" and "Second American Civil War" drums.
Several news outlets over World Nut Daily's lawsuit, none of which take WND seriously, though Dr. Kate seems to think that it's the latest birther Great White Hope. And "One Pissed-Off Vietnam Vet" is standing around in footie pajamas going "mommy, daddy, check behind my bed for Muslims please??"
28 June - The Pest and eFail reprints part of the Tea Party / Birther lawsuit in New Jersey.
"It does not matter whether or not Barack Obama Jr was born in Hawaii or not. Because his father was not a citizen of the USA he, Barack Obama Jr, is not a natural born citizen and therefore is not eligible and is therefore not the President of these United States of America. His election was illegitimate as was his name being placed on the ballot. He does not meet the qualifications to hold the office.
Now someone is going to start screaming “Birther” and ignore the simple and publicly acknowledged facts and issues. "
I don't know if this is a case of screaming "birther" as much as simply stating the blindingly obvious that the writer is a birther.
"In order for a person to be eligible and to be President the following qualifications have to be met first, in reverse order of specification in Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 5 of the USA Constitution, which is a contract:
1)The person must have been a resident in the United States for the last 14 years or more.
2) The person must have attained the age of 35 or be older than 35.
3) The person must be a natural born citizen or be a citizen of the United States at the time the US Constitution was adopted – i.e. be at least 222 or 223 years old (I don’t know anyone who comes close to meeting the grandfather clause)."
Yep. All of which are met by Barack Obama. Next??
"But what does the term “natural born citizen” mean? When one does the research we find the treatise “Law of Nations” written by Monsieur De Vattel and published in 1758 is the source and legal definition of the term."
Except that neither US law or the US Constitution is based on de Vattel's work.
"This is the document that was known to those who wrote the Constitution of the United States of America."
Yes. And so was Blackstone, which they cited more than de Vattel.
"In Book 1, Chapter 19, Paragraph number 212 it states in French
Les Naturels, ou Indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays, de Paren Citoyens."
Yes. Next?
"The word French word “Indigènes” is the English “Indigenous”. The word was adopted in to the English language and “anglicized”. The word has the meanings
Native; born in a country; applied to persons.
Native; produced naturally in a country or climate; not exotic; applied to vegetables."
So "native born" and "natural born" are pretty much the same in so far as it goes.
"Now some are going to say that Law of Nation was not in use. But the following excerpt from Ben Franklin’s letter to Charles Dumas clearly show the Law of Nation was known to the founders."
"Known" doesn't mean "based upon".
"The Supreme Court in Scott v Sanford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)[9] Justice Daniel in a separate opinion quoted The Law of Nations extensively in his pre-Amendment 14 opinion."
Boy, the birthers do love them the Dred Scott v Sandford decision, don't they? Never mind that the 14th Amendment rended it null and void - or that it's considered one of the most discredited court decisions in US history.
28 June - Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi comes up with a new "expert".
"A nationally recognized computer expert who has served as contributing author and technical editor for more than 100 books on Adobe and Microsoft software says the Obama long-form birth-certificate image released by the White House is a fraudulent document created with Adobe software.
"The PDF file released by the White House contains evidence of manipulation suggesting that one or more forgers utilized existing Hawaiian birth certificates to assemble fraudulently for Barack Obama a document the president presented to the world as authentic," Mara Zebest told WND.
Zebest has prepared a full analysis of the image that was presented April 27 by Barack Obama to the world as a copy of his original birth documentation in the state of Hawaii."
You know, it's funny that all these "Adobe Experts" can't seem to notice the minor fact that the metadata for the long form PDF clearly states it was made using the built-in PDF capabilities in Mac OS X 10.6. Last I saw, Adobe didn't own Apple.....
And in comments:
"Suzie Kue
If any one thinks that this bastard will be impeached or indicted...don't hold your breath...it is up to "we the people" we have only ourselves to blame for the destruction he is causing because we should have marced into dc in the millions long ago...OUR FOUNDERS WOULD HAVE DRAGGED HIS SKINNY ASS TO THE GALLOWS LONG AGO...WHAT A TRAVESTY."
"Brian Scott Jeffrey · Magnolia, Texas
Just think, if all the conservatives across this great nation would gather together, this would be maybe around 150 to 200 million people, and decended on Washington DC fully armed, how could they stop us. They couldn't."
"Hal Adkins · Top Commenter · La Moille Community High School
One reason we have the 2nd Amendment is because our founding fathers realized that from time to time corruption and the tyrants in government would have to be removed, by the citizens, by force of arms. The founders were realists and knew after having fought a war to create this nation that it would be challenged from both inside and out, and if it takes the people rising up to kick evil doers in this nation out of power and control, so be it. This my friends is loooong over due."
The birtherstani really want their civil war, don't they?
Oh, and look, it's Dr. Orly's buddy Leonard McCauley:
"Leonard McCauley · Top Commenter
U should be well aware of who owns 100% of all Media in America and most of the World, since 1947...The Zionists, if u didn't know?"
"Suzie Kue
Our elected officials have known all along...that this p.o.s was not eligible to become president....and yet they hid under their desks while this felonious jack ass Marxist was allowed to be elected and while he continues engineering the total collapse of this nation by taking ordesr from his evil oil barons and George Soros...Since their silence on this issue is consent...then their consent is considered TREASON....we have a congress filled with traitors and yet we Americans sit here at our keyboards and vent, and moan, and whine...instead of descening upon DC in the tens of millions...with harleys, busses, autos, campers, rv's, rigs, and closing the dam capitol down until our demands be heard...until they drag this bastard out of our beloved White House.... in chains and shackles and indict him for felonious criminal acts...shame on us...God Bless America."
"Chains and shackles" eh??
"Randy Hudgins
he KNEW it was obvious that this was a fake B.Certificate. That's how barry-boy works."
"Boy", eh??
"Kim Vz · Top Commenter
Its coming Suzie, July 4th....attendence is expected to reach 2 million."
O RLY??
29 June - Cody Judy continues to use the Pest and eFail as a platform for his joke run for President.
"While much more successful in fund raising than I, no doubt if contributions are the mark of success in today’s political climate, then voters really should look to the candidate with the fewest votes and the least amount of money who is actually going to work for them, because there sure isn’t and hasn’t been any pay for me."
Can't even get the birtherstani to pony up the money??
"The Birther Movement’s over 50% of Republican Voters are so broke they cannot support a legitimate candidate who has the qualifications and unique ability to defend racism charges leveled at Mr. Donald Trump from not also suing Sen. John McCain as an ineligible candidate as I did. "
He fails to note that percentage was before the long form was released.
"The Birther Movement has no idea of the advantages of running for President and the reduced advertisement rates that federal candidates have and how that could turn Obama on his head with public education."
You could have ended that at "The Birther Movement has no idea". Or maybe just substituted "clue" for "idea"
"Mitt Romney has not spent one single dollar as far as I know on the atomic bomb devastation of Obama’s constitutional qualifications."
Because Mitt Romney knows that it's more of a soggy sparkler than an atomic bomb.
(Bold face mine)
"Efforts are doubling down to sweep it under the carpet and allow Barack Obama to go down in history as the 44th President. The course of action I must take may surprise you, but it is a course of action that will not let America down."
Considering Cody Judy's past history and previous time in prison and a mental hospital, the Secret Service should make VERY careful note of Cody Judy in light of this comment.
29 June - World Nut Daily rents a room at the National Press Club to announce their lawsuit against Esquire for daring to make fun of World Nut Daily. And they use the rental to try and spin that Corsi's book is still valid, honest.
"The issue of Barack Obama's eligibility to be president took center stage at the National Press Club today, with even portions of the "establishment media" taking note of the heating dispute.
Holding a news conference regarding a new lawsuit against Esquire magazine over its faked "report" that falsely claimed a New York Times best-selling book, "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President," had been pulled from shelves and recalled were its publisher, WND CEO and founder Joseph Farah, and book author Jerome Corsi, Ph.D."
Tweedledum and Tweedledummer.
And the bring their latest "expert"
"Thrown in as an added bonus was an expert on computer software and author of dozens of books on the subject who asserted to reporters at the briefing that the image that the White House released in April as a copy of Obama's original birth documentation is a fake.
Mara Zebest, who has completed an analysis of the image Obama released three years after telling reporters that it wasn't available, said, "This is not only a fake document, it is an obvious fake document."
So I'm sure this press conference was just packed to the rafters, right?
"Most of the media coverage regarded the Esquire story as satire, but attorney Larry Klayman, who is handling the action, said the story "was obviously calculated with malice to destroy not just the book and its sales, but the reputations of Mr. Corsi and Mr. Farah."
"There were only three reporters present to hear Zebest's explanation – and that, in itself, is key to understanding why WND has decided to file suit over the Esquire article," Adweek reported. "Before Obama released his birth certificate, back when [Donald] Trump was working the media into a frenzy over the birther issue, Wednesday's press conference would have been a real draw for a (sic) reporters. But now the issue is all but dead.""
Well, except for World Nut Daily's attempt to part the birthers from their money.
"You can't just make up words and put them in people's mouths, deliberately misleading the public, deliberately defaming others and deliberately lying to inhibit commerce," Farah said."
Why not? Joseph Farah and World Nut Daily do it all the time.
"Media institutions such as Esquire magazine and its parent, the Hearst Corporation, for which I was employed for nearly a decade, should know better. And they will as a result of this lawsuit."
"We are reacting to one of the most egregious abuses of freedom of the press that I have ever witnessed in my 30-plus year career in journalism," he said. "We are taking this action not because we desire to restrict First Amendment-guaranteed protections, but because we want to police them and guard them."
Translation - "Wahhh! They made fun of us, wahhhh!"
"That the faked report had an impact seems apparent. A clerk at a Borders bookstore in California told customers that the hot-selling "Where's the Birth Certificate?" had been withdrawn from the market by the publisher, based on the fraudulent story published by Esquire."
Except:
"There's no story here," said a spokeswoman for the Borders corporate headquarters, Mary Davis. "The bookseller saw the headline on the Esquire article below and mistakenly took it as truth. The book was coincidentally out of stock at the store and the bookseller mistakenly attributed that to this headline. Totally innocent on his part."
And in comments:
"Charles L Marsden · Top Commenter · Lincoln High School
More good stuff on the kenyan invader of our white house it is clear to me that this empty suit is not fit or qualified to even be in the U.S. much less steal our white house IMPEACH IMPEACH NOW."
Racist much?
29 June - As for the 13 page lawsuit:
(Scribd link here)
"About 25 percent of the American people believe that because President Barack Obama waited many years to release what he now claims is his birth certificate, as well as other factors, that the newly released birth certificate is fraudulent and that he is not eligible to be President of the United States."
But World Nut Daily keeps insisting that the total is anywhere from 50%-95%.
They can't even keep their poll numbers straight.
"Contrary to the false, misleading and otherwise actionable statements of Defendants, Plaintiffs never contemplated, much less offered, to pull the book from shelves, refund purchases to consumers and believed at all material times that the contents of the book are accurate and newsworthy.
However, the representations of the Defendants, each and every one of them, resulted in books being pulled from the shelves by booksellers, harmed sales and damaged the goodwill and reputation of Plaintiffs among the buying and consuming public, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere. Defendants' stated malicious purpose in harming Plaintiff, through their actions, succeeded as planned."
Well, so far you have antidotal evidence of one store - where it wasn't even in stock.
I suspect the entire point of this lawsuit is an attempt by World Nut Daily, Farah, and Corsi to explain away the poor sales of Corsi's book by claiming that Esquire's parody somehow damaged sales.
29 June - At the Pest and eFail, Gordon Smith and Mary Seales can't seem to understand why the Tea Party hasn't boarded the crazytown express to birtherstan.
"Do you not read the blogs and articles and videos on YouTube with DOZENS and DOZENS of professional document experts claiming Obama’s long-form is not just a fake…..it’s a REALLY BAD fake? Recently….ten CIA officers were asked if Obama’s BC back in May was real, and all of them said it’s a fake.
So……as a TEA PARTY group are you for the TRUTH….or against the TRUTH?"
So it's up to ten of Vallely's mythical "CIA Agents"???
"If you are against the TRUTH…..then you are all traitors, and GOD help you for your crimes against our country.
Choose one, Tea Party…..your silence on this subject for two years is DEAFENING."
Oooh, threaty.
"There is overwhelming evidence that Obama is not eligible to be president and the Tea Parties and the RNC, the DNC and both parties in the Congress refuse to address this. As Gordon elaborated on, we the people are fighting this fight every single day. We are tired!!"
"Wahhh! The scary black man is still President, wahhhh!"
"Let’s get this thing, this cancer, out in the open once and for all and let everyone see what is going on. The usurper was never vetted. A phony document was posted online, and more recently another phony, forged document was sent out."
Funny how the State of Hawaii doesn't agree....
"The Tea Party and Michele Bachmann and whomever else should be screaming this at the top of their lungs daily. What an impact this would make on the election and on the state of affairs in this country if it were done."
Yeah, it would completely discredit the Tea Party and Rep. Bachmann for good.
29 June - Lawrence Sellin has a new one, called "Obama’s ineligibility: Proof that Congress is lying":
"If our country no longer has any honest leaders, it will be the responsibility of ordinary citizens to restore the Constitution and the rule of law.
In doing so, patriotic Americans will be viciously opposed, denounced and denigrated by those corrupt politicians, powerful financiers and the main stream media.
Nevertheless, we must now stand our ground in order to save our country.
Abraham Lincoln said that the American people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
Oh, and Dean Haskins gets a reach-around.
"Dean Haskins has produced an excellent video explaining how the Obama Administration and the Congress are lying to the American people.
"
Doc Conspiracy did a pretty good debunking of this video here. It's funny he uses a lying video to support his claim that Congress is lying.
In comments:
"...The 14th Amendment only applies to minorities. It established an after-market America on the “federal” level to accommodate them, “adopting” them into the political family of the mainstream “host” body politic.
14th Amendment “federal” citizenship is founded in statute. Accordingly “rights” of this citizenship are also derived from statute, not God or Nature.
The 14th Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee to minorities “statutory” equality in the form of “civil rights” intended to be their exact equivalent of the God given “natural” rights of the Founding generation and its “Posterity”.
The 14th Amendment citizen is a government created “subject” (agent), the first in our history. The S. Ct. has held that “subjects” have no rights but what the government may choose to grant them. Being “subject” to the jurisdiction… is not the same thing as being “within” the jurisdiction… The sovereign “People” (the “principal”) are not “subject” to authority; they are the source and author of it.
“Civil rights” are granted by Congress (not God). The founding generation and its Constitutional “Posterity” did not need a Civil Rights Act or the 14th Amendment to give them rights; they already had “natural” rights derived from God that pre-dated government. 14th Amendment “subjects” need government’s permission (in the form of statutes, licenses, and permits) to do everything.
Our Founders had nothing to do with the 14th Amendment. This was entirely the product of carpetbagger politicians after the Civil War, bringing in what the Founders had deliberately excluded.
There was no 14th Amendment to provide Obama with the privilege of de-facto citizenship AT THE TIME THE CONSTITUTION WAS ADOPTED, another reason he is ineligible for the Presidency.
Posted by frank on 06/30 at 10:04 AM"
Racist much?
"...The criminals in charge are like serial killers, and will keep going until they are STOPPED. It is up to USA TO STOP THEM, yes?
Posted by Freeme on 06/30 at 09:59 AM"
O RLY??
"...Millions of average Americans are now considering the possibility that it may take ANY MEANS NECESSARY to restore the Rule of Law.If they fail to see this. They do it at their own peril.
Posted by ledbythnose on 06/29 at 08:23 PM
"DO I HERE A CIVIL WAR STARTING UP BECAUSE THAT WHATS GOING HAVE TO HAPPEN TO RETAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK,AND IF obama GETS OUR GUNS YOU CAN BET YOUR SWEET ##### YOUR FREEDOM WILL GO RIGHT ALONG WITH IT AN YOU CAN SAY BYE BYE AMERICA.
Posted by Millard Huff on 06/29 at 08:08 PM"
"Thank you Mr. Sellin for calling out Congress. My group has been trying to unseat Obama since he illegally slid into the WH with the help of Pelosi who should be impeached.
I just sent off an email to Allen West's office shaming him for his ignoring this dangerous issue our nation faces.
I am so sick of hearing repeal this and that as many are still in denial this illegal foreign alien is getting away with murdering America right before our very eyes.
I told West's office not to bother to respond as I have no respect for their lack of doing their job and ignoring their oath to defend and protect our Constitution and our nation.
I say march on Congress and make them do it.
Everyone please keep the pressure on all Congressman to do their job.
The growing number of Americans who now know Obama is a fraud is approximately 75%. So most of our nation knows he is a fraud and sent here to destroy us.
God Bless America and May the Truth set us free once again.
Posted by True Patriot on 06/29 at 08:36 AM"
The civil war fetishists are getting particularly hot and bothered, aren't they?
"The American military needs to rise up along with the American people and throw all these thugs out by what ever means necessary.....
Posted by Ron Fields on 06/29 at 03:53 PM"
"Sir, is it possible for you to encourage those high up in the military to shut down this liar and thief in office, as they are sworn to protect this country from foreign or Domestic tyrant.
Thank you for your loyalty and service to this great nation.
Posted by Melody C. on 06/29 at 03:08 PM"
"Where are all the generals?
Trend over the past 4-6 years is a lot of field grade officers and generals missing.
Posted by Guest on 06/29 at 11:38 AM"
"WAHHH! I want my military coup!!!
29 June - Forbes.com covers World Nut Daily's lawsuit press conference.
"Joseph Farah and Jerome Corsi have some pretty interesting beliefs. They believe
Barack Obama was born in Kenya, not there’s no proof Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.* They also believe Hearst Corp. and a writer it employs ought to pay them hundreds of millions of dollars for making fun of them for believing that first part."
*Chuckle*
"In their suit, Farah and Corsi say this update itself was “another actionable attack on Plaintiffs and exhibited the malice of Defendants toward the Plaintiffs.” The malicious intent that that allege spawned the article succeeded, they say, in interfering with their ability to sell books through Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Tower and other retailers."
Considering it was starting to tank before it was released.....
"The plaintiffs also say that Warren’s parody exposed them to “extreme ridicule in the community where they reside and where their works are viewed and read.”
Oh, you were being exposed to "extreme ridicule" long before Esquire....
Oh, and look who whines in the comments:
"5:09 pm on 06/29/11 jfarah This is Joseph Farah, one of the subjects of the above abusive posting by Jeff Bercovici. I am hereby publicly issuing a retraction demand from Forbes and its writer for lying about me and my beliefs. Since I have never stated or suggested in all I have written and spoken regarding Barack Obama and his eligibility problems that I believe he was born in Kenya, the entire premise of the above article is, shall we say, misleading. It’s no wonder that a blogger like Mr. Bercovici, who, to my knowledge has never spoken to me or attempted to interview me, would completely misrepresent my beliefs while defending an indefensibly defamatory article in Esquire. What is that old saying? Birds of a feather…"
"Wahhh! You said something mean about me, wahhh!"
"6:11 pm on 06/29/11
jpeditor
I have heard that Forbes™ has a terrific art department staffed by some real Photoshop™ wizards.
Since some top (and well published) Adobe Photoshop™ experts like Gary Poyssick and more recently Mara Zebest have now chimed in agreeing that the “birth certficate” islikely a forgery, why doesn’t Forbes sponsor a colloquium and help settle this argument?"
"6:17 pm on 06/29/11
JEFF BERCOVICI
Mixed Media
Great idea. We could invite Osama bin Laden, Elvis and Paul McCartney to participate as celebrity panelists. Oh, wait, I forgot – Paul is dead."
*LAUGH*
"1:49 pm on 06/30/11
mozfan47
Farah and Corsi and their birther friends have smeared Obama as an alien, an Islamic Manchurian candidate, and a fascist/communist/socialist dictator who came to power through trickery. Then when others make fun of their outlandish statements, they run crying to their lawyer.
Like all bullies, they are cowards.
True.
29 June - AdWeek covers World Nut Daily's Esquire lawsuit press conference.
“Birther” proponents continued to bang the drum against President Barack Obama Wednesday at the National Press Club in D.C. as they unveiled a $30 million defamation lawsuit against Esquire magazine over an article that said they’d abandoned their cause and backed away from a book supporting their theory.
“This was a serious mistake by Mark Warren [the author of the article] and Esquire for which they will pay dearly,” said Larry Klayman, the lawyer for the plaintiffs in the case. “It was obviously calculated with malice to destroy not just the book and its sales, but the reputations of Mr. Corsi and Mr. Farah.”
1) It was already tanking.
2) Corsi and Farah would have to have reputations to destroy.
"Given the people and the issue involved, this was not your typical press conference, certainly not your typical press conference about a lawsuit. Instead, it was something of a birther forum—Corsi kicked off the presentation by claiming credit for forcing Obama to release his birth certificate when he did (that meant taking credit away from Donald Trump, who’s relied on Corsi for advice). Then he called the document a forgery and a fraud.
Self-proclaimed Democrat and Hillary Clinton supporter Mara Zebest also spoke, claiming that layers and “pixelation noise” in the Adobe Acrobat file of the birth certificate prove that it is “obviously a fake.”
I smell PUMA.
"But there were only three reporters present to hear Zebest’s explanation—and that, in itself, is key to understanding why WND has decided to file suit over the Esquire article."
OUCH!
"Warren went on to say that Farah and Corsi refused to admit they were wrong about the “birther” issue and had “doubled down” and stuck to their conspiracy theory “to hold their terribly gullible audience captive to their lies, and to sell books.”
“This is despicable, and deserves only ridicule,” Warren wrote. He added one more kick to the duo when he was quoted on the political website The Daily Caller describing Corsi as an “execrable piece of shit.”
*Chuckle*
And in comments:
"Mary_Adams 2 hours ago
“I cannot in good conscience publish it and expect anyone to believe
it,” Farah was quoted as saying in an “exclusive interview.”
--------------------------------------------
Come on! Joey having any kind of qualms about publishing lies? It was obviously satire!
I hope WingNutDingbat gets hit with costs and sanctions for filing a frivolous and vexatious lawsuit."
"Pogue Moran 4 hours ago
Hard to take WND seriously when they change their articles without telling anyone instead of posting retractions. Take for instance the article on Poysick who they claimed was an Adobe Engineer who worked for adobe in the 90s. When that turned out to be false they changed the article then claiming he was an adobe expert. The truth is he writes an online fishing magazine and is just another crackpot conspiracy theorist with no real credentials."
"Keith 4 hours ago
The post which exposeobama made is false.
Don't bother going to WND, it publishes articles that the National Enquirer would be ashamed of and exists for the sole purpose of getting you to hit the Paypal button."
"Jennifer Gale 17 hours ago
Actually, when Warren called Farah the names that he did, he was being kind. Much kinder than I could be with regards to Mr. Pornstar Mustache."
29 June - Don't you just love the respect that the so-called "Constitutionalists" at Dr. Kate's cesspool actually HAVE for the US Constitution??
"Sharon in VA
June 29, 2011 at 6:34 am
When this idea hit me, I was MORE thinking along the lines of…..Tea Parties and other Patriot Groups all over the Country getting together and finding replacements in their states for their Federal Reps. who are not following the Constitution…and then just walking in and telling them they are being replaced…by the authority of “we the People”.
The only “changing” of our Government, that I envisioned at that time, was suspending elections, for a time, get a Congress that will make a new committment to the Constitution, recalling and replacing the Supreme Court…THEN getting back to “elections” etc, under the Constitution.
I SEE us as being able to do this without violence or any kind of camp-out in DC.
Do any of you think THIS is possible?
Thoughts?"
Yes. You're delusional, crazy, and have a fetish for attempted coups.
"drkate
June 29, 2011 at 8:36 am
I can see a transition plan, the phased removal of the entire House and the directive that no incumbents can run again for the office. But there is too much division among patriots right now…as so many want to be ‘the lead’. These are good thoughts to keep putting out there, because we do need to have an alternative vision that works…"
Oh, and look
"heather
June 29, 2011 at 6:58 am
...Our military would stand with us—not them—if the sh#t hits the fan, in the end our 1st responders would have to stand with us—or they too will end up in those fema camps."
"Wahhh! I want my military coup!!"
"Also, dont forget that barry brought over the chinese and the russian troops from the UN last yr–put them in hiding from our eyesight – and have then just waiting to take us on because he knows our troops and cops wouldnt do his biding."
Paranoid much??
"The only way we will have our govt and constitutional law back is through the ultimate sacrifice for each of us.
If this comes forward and they see the fortitude of the real american citizen – I believe most of them would run and hide–except for barry and co who would give the ORDER and stand and watch as the people of this country are killed by their very own potus that vowed to protect and defend.
The time for this is quickly approaching-people are out of patience and are standing ready."
"heather
June 29, 2011 at 4:00 pm
...This usurpation was planned long ago and now it’s on our doorstep and we cannot let them take us over.
I fear not only for America but my life and the lives of all american patriots. The elite think they have it made in the shade and we little serfs and peasants will be under total control—so they have no fear of us at this time….little do they know what an uprising we will bring on them."
O RLY???
"Heather" really wants her overthrow and coup....
"sky
June 29, 2011 at 1:14 pm
We agree that obama needs to get out of the whitehouse,but your wrong about impeach,go to the federalist papers, to what a usuper is a domestic enemy,the secret service & the military arent doing their job and putting him in handcuffs.Calling for impeachment is saying he is the president.The pressure needs to be put on the military joint chiefs,because they dont have a commander & chief"
"sky
June 29, 2011 at 3:24 pm
At the same time we need to pressure the military to pressure the joint chiefs to pressure the congress,and call for the arrest on fraud, which if they dont they are traitors,and backing this treason being done."
"WAHHHH WHERE'S MY MILITARY COUP?????"
"anonymouse
June 30, 2011 at 9:24 am
I saw this posting from rsTruthSeeker under MO’s “we have help from the media” video.
“She is BHO’s Co-Con. He was born in Canada as Barak Mounir Ubayd, the illegitimate son of Malcolm X, and dedicated to the end of capitalism. He and his wife have many identities and ss # and hidden assets – the scary part if the FBI, CIA, DOD and all the others we thought were there to protect us are in on it! I wonder if it is time to leave the USA before we are beheaded, as the bible predicts.”
rsTruthSeeker"
They're still believing that claim Pidgeon found at the German humour site??
29 June - The Atlantic Wire covers World Nut Daily's lawsuit conference as well.
"Esquire clarified its humorous intentions in an update, but insisted the so-called birthers deserved ridicule. That only further enraged the birther duo, it seems. In their complaint they are seeking $100 million compensatory damages, $20 million in punitive damages, and legal costs.
Farah is the CEO of the stridently birther site WorldNetDaily, and Corsi (pictured) is the author of several books, including the poorly-timed Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to Be President. The birthers are suing the magazine--and author Mark Warren--because they say his post hurt their book sales. (Perhaps sales were hurt because the book was released after Obama's birth certificate?) And the update only made things worse, as it subjected Corsi and Farah to "extreme ridicule in the community where they reside and where their works are viewed and read."
29 June - The Daily Caller chimes in as well.
"Farah said the article led to some bookstores returning copies of the book, as well as a flood of calls from news organizations and confused readers.
“The book has not sold nearly as well as it would have,” Farah said."
Maybe because Obama released his long form before Corsi's book came out? Maybe Farah should sue Obama for hurting the sales of this book.....
29 June - Fishbowl New York chimes in as well.
"The article in question was written by Mark Warren, and posted on Esquire’s Political Blog right after Obama displayed his birth certificate to the nation. In the piece, Warren pokes fun at the book, which had its premise plainly disproven before it was even released.
Esquire even posted an update hours after the post went up explaining the reasoning behind the article, but Farah and Corsi aren’t satisfied.
FishbowlNY has plenty more to say, but we’ll just go ahead and stop here. We don’t want to get sued too."
29 June - As does Huffington Post
"Warren's piece was a subtle, yet easily detectable fake item that very specifically satirized the spirit of Corsi's Where's The Birth Certificate?, in that, if Corsi could get away with selling obvious lies to people too dumb to know any better, why couldn't Esquire?
The whole matter might have remained just a blip in the universe of political satire, but it so aggrieved Corsi and WorldNetDaily CEO Joseph Farah, that they intimated that they would consider legal action against Esquire for making them the butt of a joke. And now that threat has been delivered upon: the pair have filed suit against the magazine, Warren, and Esquire's parent company, Hearst Corp. Forbes blogger Jeff Bercovici has all the gory details ("the full amount sought totals more than $285 million") and a copy of the suit itself.
According to Bercovici, Farah and Corsi claim that "the article succeeded...in interfering with their ability to sell books through Barnes & Noble, Amazon, Tower and other retailers. The plaintiffs also say that Warren’s parody exposed them to 'extreme ridicule in the community where they reside and where their works are viewed and read.'”
29 June - TPM Muckraker comments on World Nut Daily's lawsuit.
"Filed by Larry Klayman, the original founder of the group Judicial Watch and head of Freedom Watch USA who has said President Obama is on a "political jihad promoting Islam," the suit calls Corsi a "world renowned author" and says WND "competes nationally and internationally" with Esquire.
The lawsuit claims that unnamed stores started to take copies of the WND-published book Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President off the shelves after Esquire published a satirical story that said Farah was recalling the book because President Barack Obama released a copy of his long-form birth certificate.
Both plaintiffs are also upset over a comment Warren gave to the Daily Caller, calling Farah and Corsi "execrable piece of shit." Farah did not immediately respond to a request for comment."
30 June - Looks like Mara Zebest was sure it was a forgery from day one....
At Pam Geller's "Atlas Shrugs" on 27 April 2011:
"Look at the attached JPG... (which shows what you will see when opening the PDF in Illustrator and how to get there)... but to recap... if you open the PDF in Illustrator (instead of Photoshop) - Select the entire document and go to the Object menu and choose Clipping Mask > Release. Repeat as necessary until all clipping masks are released. Also open the Layer and turn off the visibility of each clipping group and you can see all the numerous places in which information was added (edited) into the form."
And at Gateway Pundit on 27 April 2011
"This is so maddening to listen to the media on this recent revelation… it’s such an obvious fake."
Joseph Cannon at Cannonfire notes her as well on 27 April 2011
"And here we have "Photoshop expert" Mara Zebest -- the third listed author of Inside Photoshop CS -- explaining why the document is an "obvious" fake. The arguments she presents strike me as almost unfathomably stupid. (Again with the stupid background pattern!) I can rebut this nonsense in detail, if the readers have any interest -- but I don't think that many do."
And Birther Report.com mentioned on 13 May 2011 that she got a mention in the Globe Magazine.
"In it, the story quotes a very important source: "It's absolutely a fake!" declares Mara Zebest, author of several books on how to use computers and alter documents." In fact, Zebeth has co-authored no less than 17 books on the subject of advanced computer graphics, at least one of which sit on the shelves of virtually every advanced photoshop user in every English-speaking country. She writes for the beginner and intermediate user, but professionals instantly and instinctively recognize from her writing and examples the extensive depth of her skill. When she writes for the intermediate user, she isn't stretching up, but dumbing down her own instincts and abilities to meet the user's level. Every higher-level professional knows this about Zebeth. This is not just "a professional" earning a salary, somewhere - Zebeth is professionally respected by everyone in the business, even those who learned the program from the very beginning, long before she began writing, yours truly included. Her credibility is beyond any question."
Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself. And it's funny that Amazon.com shows only three books co-written by her, the most recent being in 2002. Even birther reports own link confirms it.
And remember my comment about "smelling PUMA" when World Nut Daily said Zebest was a Hillary Clinton supporter?
Well at the "PumaPAC" litterbox:
19 June 2008
"#134 mzebest on 06.19.08 at 1:49 pm
Here’s the letter I just sent to Senator Boxer:
Dear Senator Boxer —
I doubt you will be the one to read this email but I want to make the effort to let you know that I have been a loyal democrat all of my adult life. I am 52 years of age and have never before witnessed the intense injustices of the Democratic party that I have seen this year.
I want you to consider that Senator Clinton won California in the primaries and these same Californians are the ones responsible for electing and re-electing you into your current position.
I’ve been reading that Senator Obama with the help of the DNC (which he controls) is planning to remove Hillary Clinton’s name from the ballot at the DNC Convention in August. What is going on with this Democratic party? The one thing missing is the original concept of democracy. Last time I looked, Senator Obama was only a presumptive nominee, yet he already has the power to trample on the rights of the voters when his influence on the DNC’s decision for Florida and Michigan were blatantly obvious. And now he’s planning to remove Clinton from the ballot along with any delegates that want to vote for her? When he succeeds in bullying his competition out and is the only choice, is that really a democracy?
If he is capable of doing this damage to the country BEFORE he is even elected to the most powerful position in this country, then I certainly don’t want to give him the opportunity to get to that position. My vote will be for McCain in November. No amount of Obama tactics to throw Roe v. Wade in my face will change my mind. No amount of media propaganda that claims I am a sore loser, or a racist will change my mind. My mind is made up because the truth is Senator Obama is unqualified and I do not feel safe in giving this man more power.
You Senator Boxer, along with all other Senators in this great country, still have the choice to do the right thing. It’s as simple as saying NO to Obama. It’s as simple as standing behind Senator Clinton. It’s as simple as DOING THE RIGHT THING. The voters will back you up if you choose wisely. We always have a choice. All of us always have a choice. I would like to see our ELECTED officials start to choose wisely and reflect their constituents.
Sincerely,
Mara Zebest"
Looks like Mara Zebest is a PUMA, posting under the name "mzebest"
PumaPAC, 18 June 2008
#134 mzebest on 06.19.08 at 1:49 pm,
"...You Senator Boxer, along with all other Senators in this great country, still have the choice to do the right thing. It’s as simple as saying NO to Obama. It’s as simple as standing behind Senator Clinton. It’s as simple as DOING THE RIGHT THING. The voters will back you up if you choose wisely. We always have a choice. All of us always have a choice. I would like to see our ELECTED officials start to choose wisely and reflect their constituents.
Sincerely,
Mara Zebest"
PumaPAC, 25 July 2008
"#353 mzebest on 07.25.08 at 4:13 pm
...I am tired of hearing about how Senator Obama attracks record number crowds when the media intentionally continues to fail us on reporting the WHOLE TRUTH (which is that this man is shallow and can’t attract anyone without media marketing).
Again, thank you for not participating in that marketing hype.
Sincerely,
Mara Zebest
PUMA Democrat – California"
PumaPAC 23 August 2008
"#969 mzebest on 08.23.08 at 1:10 am
941 jbjd
What does your post mean? Is there a loop hole that can be exploited to keep Obama off the state ballots?"
Oh look, our old friend jbjd
"#1096 mzebest on 08.23.08 at 1:48 am
After watching the voter fraud link and from what I know about ACORN — submitting fraudulent forms for new voter registration — do you realize that with BO’s strategy to acquire and harvest all that personal information (under the pretext of giving the people a first glimpse into his VP pick) — that BO now has a database of personal information he can use to fraudulently fill out voter registration forms with through ACORN? At least that’s my theory of what he might have up his sleeve."
PumaPAC, 22 November 2008
"mzebest 11.22.08 at 6:02 pm
Another related story to the radio show talk with Kenyan Ambassador
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2008/11/kenyas-ambassador-sure-obama-was-born.html "
Sammy Sewell!
"mzebest 11.22.08 at 8:26 pm
Obama wouldn’t even be allowed to TOUR the White House much less run it. "
As noted at Rumproast on 28 August 2008, from PumaPAC.
"mzebest on 08.28.08 at 12:02 am
#1148 DiscoPuma
“#1114 I AGREE We need a new party.. How about “The Womens Party” They have this in Iceland. Everyone is part of it. Obama is no progressive– on the contrary, he is conservative.”
~~~~~~~~
I posted this downstairs and want to get it off my chest upstairs too. I have to comment since I feel a need to set the record straight. I’m getting a little tired of Obama being defined as a “progressive” or even as a “liberal.” He is not a progressive (for whatever the h*ll that is supposed to imply)… nor is he a conservative… nor is he a liberal. Obama is a radical and more specifically a marxist. A Black Liberation Theologist Marxist which is even more radical than a regular marxist (if there is such a thing as a more radical marxist). LOL!"
And look where else she shows up. 16 January 2009
"letter from mzebest- telling children not to go to school on the 20th and boycott inauguration, schools will miss on federal dollars
Posted on January 16th, 2009 by David Crockett"
30 June - And another seditionberry treat from Lawrence Sellin:
"By giving illegal immigrants amnesty before the 2012 election, the Democrats believe that they can guarantee an election victory for Obama and regain control of Congress.
Their aim is permanent political power, a one-party state like Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwe."
Racist much?
"I agree that we should challenge Obama and the Democrats on their misguided policies, but in a street fight you can be sure that Obama, his union thugs, his powerful leftist financiers and his radical followers will not play by any rules.
And we will be called names like “racist” or “extremists” no matter what we do or say."
Maybe if you didn't ACT like racists or extremists.....
"Regrettably, our government has declared war on the American people and our Constitution.
We must now remind ourselves of the outnumbered militiamen on Lexington Common the morning of April 19, 1775, the courage they displayed and the fateful words of their commander Captain John Parker:
“Stand your ground; don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”
The 2012 election will be crucial. It is now our turn to stand our ground. We are, quite literally, fighting for our lives and our country."
And he's using the American Revolution imagery again. As for comments:
"All these idiot congress persons are actually committing political suicide (on our behalf because we won't stop them). They are on the side of the jihadis and the illegals. However, the jihadis and illegals are making way, through them, for their own takeover of congress and the presidency. Why lick whitey's boots when they can kick him in the rear? That's a useful idiot hard at work. Stealth calls for orchestrating whitey behind the scene and then walking the red carpet of whitey's useless body to victory..
Posted by RSA9999 on 06/30 at 01:50 PM"
"...So every time you hear the msm try to bum rush me…ask yourself why they won’t do that to oblabby? Are they afraid YOU might wonder why they want to herd you toward the liberal agenda…are they afraid that you’ll start wondering why there is such a big gap between your “take home money” and what you earned. Are they afraid you’ll see that the emperor really has no clothes! So when you hear the msm rush to the newsroom with a Bachman gaffe…understand we’re having some fun with them and don’t forget to party like it’s 1773!
And to make my Palin point again about primarying oblabby ….It’s the overton window move on the demoncrats where conservatives pull the independents back from the lying liberals…before they get turned into communist, marxist, socialist and race baiters” and sent to the gulag! The same move was played out by the demoncrats…conservatives need to flip the deck!
Anyway, good job again!
Posted by Ray Howard on 06/30 at 12:52 PM"
"...you and I both know that NOTHING will be ever done to prove BHO’s constitutional legitimacy to serve as President.
Were he white, it would have been over long ago....
Posted by Laura Elliott on 06/30 at 12:50 PM"
"...Soon, there will be a time when honorable men will join together to take back what has been stolen. Thanks again.
Posted by Rob Jones on 06/30 at 12:44 PM"
"...Hopefully it is not too late. A huge mistake was made in choosing a dirty little Kenyan muslim Marxist empty suit to be our president. The mistake was made before with Lincoln, FDR, Carter et al. Hopefully enough are aware that we can with great effort reverse the damage this loathsome little swine has burdened us with.
Posted by Tom Cook on 06/30 at 12:41 PM"
As for the comments, I guess his readers figured if they were going to be called racists, they would let their racist freak flag fly.
30 June - Newser chimes in as well.
"Nobody likes to be the butt of jokes, and now two birthers are suing Esquire for a jaw-dropping $285 million to make the point. Joseph Farah and Jerome Corsi have filed the suit because journalist Mark Warren said in a satirical piece in May that Corsi's book—Where's the Birth Certificate?—was being yanked from bookstores, reports Forbes. Warren's Onion-style parody screamed "Breaking! Corsi's Book Pulled From Shelves!" because President Obama had just released his long-form birth certificate, essentially rendering Corsi's tome a waste of eye muscles."
30 June - ConWebWatch reports on World Nut Daily's press conference.
"We've noticed the increasing irrelevance of WorldNetDaily, due to the overall vengeful yet factually dubious nature of its reporting. We saw firsthand another example in the press conference WND held June 29 to formally announce its defamation lawsuit against Esquire magazine over a piece of satire WND didn't find funny.
To put a patina of credibility on the proceedings, WND rented a small conference room (this one) at the National Press Club in Washington. Pretty much anyone can rent a room there -- remember, the utterly discredited Larry Sinclair discredited himself even more there. WND paid a few hundred bucks for a room with a flat-screen TV in order to make its little dog and pony show look professional."
The room was the Bloomberg Room. National Press Club says it's 20'x22', 500 sq feet, and can hold between 15 and 44 people depending on configuration. For theatre, which World Nut Daily's conference was, the total is 29 people.
"Inside the Bloomberg Room, members of the press were far outnumbered by people affiliated with WND. In fact, there were only two members of the press there: a writer for AdWeek and myself. (AdWeek's article on the press conference is here.) Another person appearing to be a reporter asked questions, but she was apparently affiliated with WND as well."
*Chuckle* No surprise.
"First up was Jerome Corsi, who took credit for forcing President Obama's release of his long-form birth certificate, going on to declare that "a person we've had in the Deartment of Health in Hawaii who has been a mole to us, giving us information, said that the birth certificate had been forged and was now the logbook." Corsi asserted that "with the release of that document, the entire future of the Obama presidency depends on the authenticity of that document."
Corsi's made that claim before. And provided no proof any of the other times.
"Corsi went on to declare that the patient records of Obama's mother or the doctor that delivered him because they "remain under seal as part of a continuing cover-up" -- apparently unaware that all American's health records "remain under seal" because of federal privacy laws for health records."
Oh, he's QUITE aware of patient privacy laws - he's been told about them every other time he's brought this claim up.
"Later, in an attempt to portray Zebest as something other than politically motivated, Farah said that Zebest "is a lifelong Democrat. In 2008 she was a Hillary supporter." Farah didn't mention that birther lawyer Philip Berg was a Hillary supporter too, which undercuts his argument."
And, like Berg, Zebest was a PUMA.
"Klayman claimed that the book "hasn't nearly sold as well as it would have soldif the damage had not been done by Esquire and [blog post author Mark] Warren."
Looks like I was right - they're trying to do damage control.
"Klayman then explained the charges under which he's seeking damages: defamation, invasion of privacy, false light, tortious interference with business, and violation of the Lanham Act for "false advertising." WND is seeking a total of at least $225 million from Esquire for actual and punitive damages on the five counts. (We didn't get a chance to ask how that figure related to the still-secret amount of money WND had to pay Clark Jones in an out-of-court settlement to settle a libel lawsuit, in which WND also admitted it published numerous false claims about Jones.)"
*Chuckle*
"Finally, it was question time. In addition to claiming that she has experience in Acrobat and PDFs, Zebest claimed in another question from me that she examined the PDF file in the program it was originally created in. But has Obama Conspiracy noted, Zebest stated in her analysis that "she believed that the document was created in Adobe Photoshop, ignoring that the document properties say it was made by Mac OS X Quartz PDFContext, an inexcusable omission and mark of a sloppy analysis."
You know, it's funny, but NONE of World Nut Daily's "experts" have managed to explain this one away.
"I pointed out to Corsi that, his and Farah's assertions to the contrary, there are people who will defend the authenticity of the PDF birth certificate or at least rebut its attackers, such as Dr. Conspiracy's detailed rebuttal of the Ken Vogt analysis that Corsi devoted three WND articles to. Corsi's response was a curious one: After calling Dr. Conspiracy "one of my favorites," Corsi said, 'I'll be writing about Dr. Conspiracy in the next few days. I'll be exposing his background, his entire credentials, his involvement with his company. I've got a detailed -- I just haven't had time to write it up."
I see Corsi is still trying to harass the debunkers.
"When I asked Corsi why he's personally attacking his critics by digging into their backgrounds, Corsi suddenly softened his tone: "I'm sorry, I said I would evaluate his credentials. It's not a personal attack, but we're going to evaluate his credentials in his point-by-point."
Sure you are....
"Given Farah's abject refusal to answer such a simple question, we suspect Farah really doesn't appreciate the kind of attention from us that forces him and his website to be held accountable for their actions."
You think so??
30 June - Looks like Dr. Kate and "The Birthers" are wetting themselves over the idea that the World Nut Daily lawsuit against Esquire might be their latest legal Great White Hope.
"Joe Farah, Jerry Corsi and WND.com, now have the unique opportunity to present to the world the evidence that the document is in fact a fraud. And there is nothing Esquire or Obama can do to stop it. "
And considering that every "expert" they've used to date would crumble like a sand castle at high tide the second their credentials and background was brought forward by the defense attorney, it's more a "unique opportunity" to show that, once again, the birthers are full of bovine byproducts.
"What can Esquire do? The only option they have is to settle out of court, but that requires all parties to agree and for some reason I do not think Joe is going to settle out of court for any price. "
Or, alternatively, they can defend themselves, win, and seek costs and damages against World Nut Daily. Funny thing that.
"Come to think of it, thanks to Esquire this action will give WND the right to get a federal court order for the original birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health to have it examined to substantiate their claim "
Come to think of it, you don't have the slightest idea what the hell you're talking about, do you??
"Hotlanta Mike
June 30, 2011 at 10:12 am
Poor Obamao. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. The Secret Service guarding him 24/7. With this lawsuit moving forward the fraud is going to die a death from a thousand cuts with 2012 soon approaching…maybe he and Blago can be cellblock mates!!!"
"...dream the impossible dream..."
30 June - Business Insider comments on World Nut Daily's lawsuit.
"Joseph Farah, CEO WorldNetDaily.com, and Jerome Corsi, author of Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to Be President, have filed a suit against Hearst Corp., Esquire magazine, and writer Mark Warren, reports Forbes Jeff Bercovici.
The reason? They don't have a sense of humor."
*chuckle* Pretty much so, yes.
30 June - At the Pest and eFail, "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet" goes off on one of his usual bigoted tirades.
"The second step that Muslims force upon an unsuspecting people is the building of weapon factories and combat training emporiums advertised as “neighborhood cultural centers,” which in fact is a mosque. But you and I aren’t welcomed within the stealth center except on sanitized “open house” days, where the uniforms, weapons and hate banners are put away in storage until we, the infidels, vacate the sacred premises."
Paranoid much??
"Just study the history of the Middle East and of Africa to see the cancerous spread of Islam, and then turn your attention to Europe during the last thirty years and of America in the last ten. It’s truly frightening how gullible the West has been, but there are voices in the wilderness, voices that warn of impending destruction, of ruin, of a wasteland that can be avoided."
"Mommy, did you check under the bed for Muslims??"
"Yes, I am offended by our so-called government “by, of, and for the people” not doing the job of protecting and defending the Constitution (THAT MEANS YOU and ME!) by allowing these Muslim hoards to set up shop all over our land to facilitate the implementation of Sharia. What do you think these Muslims in Detroit, St. Louis, Orlando, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, New York City, Newark, and in all of the Islamovilles are here for if not to force America to become yet another Islamic State?"
"....what about the closet? I know they're in the closet, waiting, waiting......"
Thanks as always for the work you do to research this craziness and report it to us.
Yeah, I totally could smell the sad stench of PUMA Fail all over Mara Zebest. After all, many of the early birthers started their ODS descent into batshit crazy madness as PUMAs.
WND is looking more like a pathetic joke than ever with their latest lame action against Esquire. What a bunch of cry-babies.
That some birthers believe this will somehow give them their mythical "discovery" puts the popcorn-level entertainment back into watching the birther movement flail. Good. After all the vile sedition filth from these turds, its refreshing to see just some clownish wackery in some of their sad stories.
Posted by: G | June 30, 2011 at 06:11 PM
Sounds like those at Dr. Kate's house are pining for some Gleichschaltung and maybe some Enabling Acts. If you take the Pissed-off Veteran's comments, changing Muslim for Jew, and it also takes on the unmistakable wish for a Kristallnacht for Muslims. How do these people consider themselves Americans or Patriots?
Posted by: Northland10 | June 30, 2011 at 06:36 PM
The thing that gets me most about the birtherstani these days boils down to a simple question.
If it doesn't matter, as they claim, where Obama was born, why are they spending so much time and effort trying to prove the birth certificate is a fake?
Posted by: Xyxox | July 01, 2011 at 04:06 AM
> The bookseller saw the headline on the Esquire article below and mistakenly took it as truth.
The bookseller must have been a birther. They are known for reading only the WND headlines and not the articles, resulting in getting things even more wrong than usual.
> How do these people consider themselves Americans or Patriots?
Because they think only white conservative Christians are "real Americans". Actually, one poster over at WND said that verbatim (another mentioned WASP).
> If it doesn't matter, as they claim, where Obama was born, why are they spending so much time and effort trying to prove the birth certificate is a fake?
Because they cling to any straw they can find. If their bogus de Vattelist theory does not hold water, they still hope to "get" Obama by proving he committed fraud.
Posted by: The Magic M | July 01, 2011 at 06:54 AM
The birthers are the best entertainment available. I love reading about their crazy antics. Keep up the good work!
Posted by: Glix | July 01, 2011 at 12:29 PM
What is "One Pissed-off Veteran" pissed off about?
I'm guessing that it's because with a 1/2-pound brain and a 2" night-stick, he can't lure any of the local 12-year-old boys into his basement.
Posted by: Thomas Brown | July 01, 2011 at 02:49 PM
So WND is once again creating a new conspiracy theory...no not the birther stuff, not the Vince Foster or Ron Brown crap, and no not even anything from the Arkansas Project. No...Their new conspiracy theory is why their new crap book didn't sell well despite their method of bulk buying.
Unfortunately the answer is really simple...for once it was such a crappy conspiracy that even the snake oil salesmen Joe Farah and Corsi combined couldn't run that griff successfully.
Posted by: jayray | July 01, 2011 at 10:13 PM
Yet again, the birthers are unable to find an "expert" who examined and declared Obama's LFBC a forgery who wasn't already a birther....
Not to mention, why are they so obsessed over a mere computer image? Any genuine forensics examination would focus solely on the paper Hawaii issued (and stands behind 100%).
These birther "experts" are nothing but clowns out in public without their makeup.
Posted by: obsolete | July 02, 2011 at 12:28 AM
@Xyxox - if it can be proven that the LFBC is a forgery, they think they can have Obama arrested since he held it up in that news conference and said it was his and hence he is complicit in the conspiracy. It's just another way their warped minds work. If anything, what gets me the most is that it was and has never been a secret that Obama's father was not an American citizen as we all know from the best seller he wrote back in the 90's.
I expect a few birther heads to explode during the campaign and there's a good possibility that there will be a huge implosion of birfer matter if Obama is re-elected.
Posted by: DaveH | July 04, 2011 at 02:34 PM
> there's a good possibility that there will be a huge implosion of birfer matter if Obama is re-elected
Unfortunately, my own dream scenario can't come true anymore:
1. Some decisive state, like Florida, enacts a "birther bill" requiring a "long form BC".
2. Obama complies and is allowed on the ballot.
3. The Republican candidate cannot comply because his Democrat-controlled state only releases short forms and the government refuses to make an exception.
4. Obama thus takes the state and wins the election because of that.
(Bonus: SCOTUS affirms both the birther bill and the refusal to issue a long form to the R.)
Now *this* would have been a mess of exploding heads...
Posted by: The Magic M | July 05, 2011 at 11:00 AM