And in dispatches, one birtherstani is annoyed over the fact I suggested something she posted at Dr. Kate's might be a tad bit racist. Imagine that. Dr. Orly shows up in the pages of the OC weekly, and puppies should be worried.
Walter Fitzpatrick pimps a brand new, never before tried idea called an "on-line petition." Dean Haskins comes up with a video spot for his birther summit, along with a "line in the sand" that sounds familiar.
Whiney letters and inane racist screeds? Why yes it IS the Pest and eFail! Dr. Kate wants a revolution to take America back from those Euro-American financiers. And Lawrence Sellin has graduated to trying to find the birther's version of Jared Loughner.
9 July - Oh look. "JBJD" takes yours truly to task for, oh, quoting JBJD directly.
"“BadFiction” blog owner and proprietor Patrick McKinnion – that’s his picture on the left, captured from his “profile” page – describes the blog offers “a look at bad movies and worse politics…” He identifies himself as an “IT professional and father. Bad Movie fan and Birther Debunker“ But notice, he never claims to be an historian. And, as you will see, this only makes sense."
You're right. I never claimed to be a historian. Sure, I read about history, I've researched history, I have a very strong interest in historical facts, and I'm a historical re-creator. But no, I'm not a historian.
“Dispatches from Birtherstan” is a regular feature of the blog, In “Dispatches,” McKinnion updates his numerous readers – according to the service Alexa, he is much more popular than me"
"...as to the latest shenanigans from ‘Birthers,’ loosely described as anyone who points to the chasm between allegations President Obama has established he is Constitutionally eligible for the job; and the documentary evidence (available in the public record) that he has done no such thing."
You mean all those public records that show he is eligible despite the birthers attempts to ignore or explain away those records??
"But he doesn’t stop there. No; he ridicules our endeavors by calling us names, and poking fun at our publications by altering those names, too"
No, actually I don't ever modify names at all. If I directly quote from a source, that's the exact quote..
"Then, a few days ago, I ran a search which produced a link to Mr. McKinnion’s “Dispatches from Birtherstan” feature, covering “15-17 January 2011″. Imagine my surprise when I was confronted with an edited version of a comment I had originally posted on drkate’s blog, along with Mr. McKinnion’s introductory remarks:
Oh, and look at this wonderful bit of racist revisionist history.
“jbjd January 15, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Rosa Parks was an orchestrated act of political theatre. Teenager Claudette Colvin refused to give up her seat, first; but she was too young and too dark-skinned to constitute a worthy test case.”
Which is exactly what you posted on Dr. Kate's blog, and is STILL up on said blog.
“[R]acist revisionist history”? Say what? Generally, I would not post such a comment under my moniker which contained historically based political opinion, without references. I would be even less apt to omit such references here, as I am aware that most people are unfamiliar with the seminal contribution made by Claudette Colvin, however unintentionally, to the Civil Rights struggle in the ’60s, and the court cases that de-segregated public accommodations; and I want them to know what she did. "
And I said nothing to discount Claudette Colvin. I was simply pointing out your claim that Colvin was, quote "too young and too dark-skinned to constitute a worthy test case". There's some inherent racism in the fact you felt the need to throw in that line at Dr. Kate's.
"You write that you are a father. Perhaps your children would enjoy learning this ‘real’ history of the Civil Rights Movement; I know my son did. Not surprisingly, being a black boy in America, even by the time I taught him about Claudette Colvin, he had already carried out several noteworthy courageous acts."
Funny thing, I've helped my children write about the civil rights movement in this country before. Next??
Oh, and in comments:
July 11, 2011 at 16:27
...As to Mr. Bad Fiction, a master of free speech, maybe he can explain why the candidate, his political party or even his legal counsel has not publicly proclaimed or explained the candidate is a ‘natural born citizen’."
Simple. He's provided not one, but two documents certified by the State of Hawaii showing that he was born in that State. The birth index also shows a record of his birth. Contemporary newspaper records show birth announcements. Therefore, according to US law and the US Constitution, Barack Obama, II is a Natural Born citizen, having that citizen from the moment of birth on.
"P.S. Of course, inasmuch as he is the self-identified “Birther Debunker” Mr. BadFiction ‘intended’ to blast me by implicitly charging, I am a racist, notwithstanding my comments echoed the facts in the NYT article I had linked in my original comment on that other blog, which comment he excerpted for his blog, minus that link! As you imply in your present comments; he was unable to de-bunk the factual elements of my work and so, in the alternative, clumsily and disingenuously, attempted to fulfill his self-appointed role by personally attacking me."
Well, the fact you felt the need to throw in that "too young and too dark-skinned to constitute a worthy test case" line in an openly racist blog like Dr. Kate's, tends to lead one to assume that you're just as racist as the rest of the people in that cesspool.
15 July - Dr. Orly ends up in the OC Weekly again. Comeplete with a whole new picture.
What the hell is around her neck anyway?? She's got a major Cruella de Vil vibe going on here.
"Orly Taitz has, of course, taken on President of the United States of America Barack Hussein Obama, former foe for the GOP nomination for California Secretary of State Damon Dunn and even folks who are not African-American.
But now, the Queen of the Birthers is squaring off against other birthers--and asking the media and still other birthers to help her.
And what are they talking about? Her threat to unleash her Cavity Creeps on Gary Kreep and Philip Berg.
"Taitz goes on to lay out a conspiracy involving the filing of suit accusing her of libel, defamation and assault that, she says, includes Berg's assistant Liberi trying to pass herself off as another person and Liberi's fears that Orly will hire a hit man to kill Berg and kidnap the children of former web master Lisa Ostella for replacing the PayPal account on Tatiz's account with her own.
Um . . . wow!
"Now, instead of working on removing usurper Obama from office, I need to waste an enormous amount of time dealing with a new avalanche of garbage," Taitz tsk-tsks. "
Which would be different from her or Berg's anti-Obama garbage how??
16 July - Walter Fitzpatrick goes Ahab on the Fail Whale, trying to promote a petition against Obama.
"An initiative launched by a San Diego-area citizen lists multiple violations of the U.S. Constitution committed by Barack Hussein Obama and his enablers in Washington, DC. The petition is addressed to the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of California as well as the San Diego County Grand Jury and can be signed by any citizen."
Oh goodie, another on-line petition. They really HAVE run out of ideas.
The petition is here, and is demanding the San Diego County Grand Jury do something about the Scary Black Man in the WHITE House. And it includes such gems like:
"4. Chillingly we find senior military officials, command racketeers, no more obedient to the United States Constitution than Mr. OBAMA. We point to the Attainder courts-martial of Army Colonel, Doctor Terrence Lakin and Sargeant of Marines Lawrence Gordon Hutchins III. We point to the militarization of domestic emergency services and civilian police forces. To Wit: The illegal deployment of U.S. Army troops in Samson, Alabama.
5. Law enforcement officials of every stripe are paralyzed in their unwillingness to do their duty. State and Federal judges (William Killian, Knoxville, Tennessee) accept OBAMA's TREASON and are derelict in the performance of their duties.
6. We on the other hand refuse to accept the complicity of cowards. We insist and inspire YOU, the San Diego County Grand Jury, in the exercise of your Great Commisson: THE POWER OF PRESENTMENT. You are capable of transforming a collective fear and shame darkening this land in to the peaceful exercise of constitutionally recognized law enforcement. "
"Be advised that the U.S. Attorney's Office of the Southern District of California, Laura E. Duffy, has been notified, and I, Kristy Lonestar, charge Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Orabona with the crime of obstruction of justice. He blatantly lied to me today, Thursday, July 14, 2011, by referring me to the Secret Service to investigate the charges of TREASON already brought, and accepted, by U.S. Attorney William Killian of Knoxville, Tennessee. The Secret Service Agent informed me that their job is to protect the President, not to investigate him, referring me back to Joseph Orabona, who has not returned my call. "
So in "Kristy Lonestar's" universe, law enforcement not doing what she wants and giving her answers she doesn't want to hear is "obstruction of justice"
"Be mindful and clear on this point, and this point alone: We the People--in one aspect or another--are the final arbiters in this matter. We the People hold in our hands the final appeal our Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution command."
So as of 18 July 2011 at 11:09am PST, they've gotten a grand total of.......98 signatures. The first ten including "Kristy Lonestar", Neal Turner, Goldie Wilber, David LaRocque, and Sharon Rondeau. #14 is Linda Starr, and #27 is Walter Fitzpatrick.
On the other hand, you also have "Cordwood Fitzfundfilcher", "Joe Loser-Moron-Birther", Ivan Awfulitch, Commador Cordwood, Tard Hunter, Commadore Cordwood's Alert Ego, Jack Sparrow, Donald Trump, Xavria Hollander, Treasony McTreasonburger IV, and John Q Public. And I will note that the "petition" was only supposed to be signed by residents of San Diego County......
16 July - Dean Haskin's latest "Birther Summit" news? A 30 second video ad. Honest.
16 July - The Pest and eFail continues their whiney letter tradition, this one by "G. Miller" and "J. Black" to Rep. Tom McClintock.
"It is fairly clear, from the papers of the founding fathers and De Vattel’s Law of Nations, a primary reference used by them in the writing of the Constitution, that they thought of a natural born citizen as someone born in this country of two citizen parents at the time of that person’s birth."
And yet it's funny that no papers from said founding fathers makes such a claim, nor do they cite de Vattel as a primary source.
"The withholding of “Obama’s” vital papers and expenditure of possibly up to $2MM to defend him in eligibility legal actions, plus an undetermined amount from DOJ funds, is an outrage. They should have been prosecuting, not defending him."
Not only the lying "millions of dollars spent" claim again, but it's matched with a whiney "Wahh, why didn't they go after Obama instead" snark.
"5. There is no record of him ever legally changing his name from Barry Soetoro or Soebarkah to his current AKA."
There is no record of his ever legally changing his hame TO "Barry Soetoro" or "Soebarkah" either.
"The so-called birth certificate was, after over three years of stalling. finally released in digital form by “Obama,” via the White House staff, on 4-27-11, with limited copies made from an undetermined source document. It has been declared a fraud by dozens of document experts, some of them very well-known and respected. "
Well known and respected by birthers maybe. To actual document experts, not so much.
16 July - "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet" goes off on yet another hate-filled rant against Muslims.
"I’m personally giving notice that the members of Congress better get with the program in telling the truth, and you government law-enforcement types reading this,"
O RLY?? And just what do you plan to do??
"...if you’d done your jobs in the first place I wouldn’t be writing about illegals and Sharia and eligibility issues, now would I, or any number of like-minded patriots. So what’s your sorry excuse, “Just following orders?” You make me sick."
It's called "Freedom of Religion". Check out your copy of the US Constitution sometime, you might still be able to read that section under the feces you've repeatedly left on it.
"If you hate America, you better start running."
"If you don’t have the legal papers to be in my country, run.
"If you have been hiding the facts from the American people, run. If you are a Muslim, you better run."
How very threaty.
"If you are a Muslim in the United States Military, quit while you still can. "
Someone doesn't like the idea that the people he doesn't like are defending this country in the same uniform he claims to have worn.
"And if you are currently serving in Congress, speak up, or run, because if you don’t, we’re going to turn over every rock until we find you, then you’ll know you should’ve run."
And today's Visit from the FBI goes to......
17 July - According to Lawrence Sellin, Congress is simply inviting revolution by not following along with the demands of a bunch of paranoid and racist conspiracy nuts.
"I do not know how I can state it any clearer."
I dunno, you've made your seditionist and treasonous thoughts quite obvious by now.
"It is now widely known that there is sufficient evidence to conclude that Barack Obama is, according to the Constitution, an illegal President and has committed multiple felonies both in and out of office."
Assuming, of course, you ignore the law, the Constitution, reality, rational thought, the facts, and common sense, instead basing your "knowledge" on the disproven myths of a group calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected President and the trashing of the US Constitution.
"Many are hoping that Obama will be beaten in 2012 and all these alleged crimes will just quietly go away. That is the same mistake they made in 2008.
What if Obama wins?"
"Wahhh! The scary black guy might be around for four more years!! Wahhh! Mommy!!!"
"The documents must be subjected to reproducible forensic analyses conducted by reputable, independent investigators and laboratories above any suspicion of being influenced by or colluding with any public official, bureaucracy, political party, or other special-interest organization."
And when, once again, they confirm that the documents are valid and Obama was indeed born in the State of Hawaii, you'll either go full de Vattel or claim the investigators and laboratories are in on the conspiracy.
"If neither Congress nor the courts are willing to act, then ordinary citizens must act in order to restore the Constitution and the rule of law."
O RLY?? And just what kind of actions are you suggesting.........
And in comments:
"I agree with all I've read from your articles in Canada Free Press. I just don't know what to do with it.
Looking forward to more of your articles but mostly the active and sudden resolution of our country's current crisis of being run by a ursurper set on destroying "Amrika".
Posted by Bob on 07/17 at 12:22 PM"
One has to wonder what "Bob" means by "active and sudden resolution"......
"DC IS where our “government” is located. It is where the felons, aka CONgress, the executive branch and SCOTUS are located therefore, it IS the logical choice of venue IF our mission is to take our country back and force the removal of the usurper at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
If that is not our mission then I’m not all that interested in wasting any more of my time, money and comfort to put the felons on notice and make sure not one scrap of paper is left on the grounds we occupy. We have been there and done that to no avail."
"We do not need to congregate to hear more speeches and pep talks. It is time for action. It is time to take the gloves off and demand to be heard.
"Lois, I really appreciate you pointing out the difference between faith and hope. Perhaps, both of us are missing the point.
The MILITARY is NOT going to abandon us.
Posted by Elaine on 07/16 at 10:14 PM"
I hope in a crisis we can count on the Military to stand with the people. You being retired Military should know. Does he own the Military? The entire situation continues to worsen. We have a criminal government and the Republicans are consenting to it. It amazes me at the number of people I know that can't seem to see through the fog and think OB is doing his best and will probably vote for him again. I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. Can you give me any hope?
Posted by Lois K. on 07/16 at 02:03 PM
"Wahhh! I want my military coup!!"
"What we have now is an illegal coup breaking the law of the land on a daily basis. (Listen to Van Jones and his ilk.) Any movement to overthrow this bunch would be a counter revolution for self preservation.
Posted by Diane on 07/16 at 08:50 PM"
"The critical mass have peak. Dr. Sellin quips that it is going to burst. The American citizenry have the lawful right to defend and restore the Constitutional Republic hijacked by the Usurper and its enablers.
Cops with moral duties of upholding the US Constitution will give way on citizenry exercising their lawful duties to depose the supremo Usurper and its complicit components comrades.
When shall it be? Not in 2012 election.
Not even the military core has the iron resolve to do it for the American people. Any of the ordinary citizenry with braveheart grit is the equivalent of reincarnated George Washington leadership that can do it.
L. Walensa, and K. Wojtyla of Poland, ordinary mass citizens of Egypt, and among others have took the fields for the rights of the people and secure the metamorphosis on their country. America will have its equivalent figure and general citizens like them to kick-off. They have done it. American citizens can do it as well.
Posted by Fitzgerald on 07/16 at 12:39 PM"
"Thank you once again for not letting the most important issue/crisis of our time fall by the wayside!
If the "powers that be" are being threatened with Odinga style riots and massacres, so be it. Bring it on and let's get this thing over with.
It is now 906 days past time to end the usurpation of the presidency of the United States of America.
If we cannot get 5-10 million people to hit the streets of D.C. to take our country back -- and I'm not talking about spending or taxes -- then perhaps we have already lost our once great nation.
Keep up the good work!
I think Sellin's readers know exactly what he's suggesting.......
17 July - Dean Haskin draws a "line in the sand" for his birther summit.
"multiculturalism has vilified our sense of national pride and exceptionalism,"
Is it my imagination, or is there something awfully third reich-sounding about this line?
"When the historic evidence was combined with the forensic evidence in this specific case, the very least that Congress should have done in response to the massive outcry from the people would have been to launch an independent, non-partisan investigation into the matter, even though the prima facie evidence was already enough for Obama to be removed from office immediately. However, not only did they ignore the substance of the people's cry, they responded with lies and deception aimed at keeping themselves unaccountable to the people."
Translated out of Birtherstani, he's annoyed that they didn't believe their lies and myths, and instead kept relying on things like "Facts", "evidence", "reality" and the "US Constitution" to refute the birthers.
"Barack Obama's ineligibility is our line in the sand. It is that action for which we have stood up and said, "No, we will not allow you to get away with this." It is the hill on which we are willing to die, but it is merely a symptom of a much more sinister disease"
Yes. The diseases of "racism" and "stupidity".
"For that reason, every American citizen who is opposed to the current overthrow and destruction of the America we have known and loved"
Should do everything in their power to refute the birthers and their lies.
"....should consider the current eligibility scandal to be a crucial moment in our history, and should understand that Birthers are not the lunatic conspiracy theorists the political left and its ancillary national media have painted us to be."
Oh come on. There's people on the right who have correctly called you lunatic conspiracy theorists as well.
"The Birther Summit is traditional, historic America reclaiming her foundation, ridding herself of rampant corruption in Washington, and removing an illegal occupant of the White House. We are Americans. We are the Birther Summit."
And you're made up of tens of like-minded people.
17 July - Walter Fitzpatrick seems to still believe that since Obama hasn't responded to his steaming pack of lies, that he's somehow admitted guilt.
"Mr. OBAMA is charged with the crime of TREASON for over two years now. Mr. OBAMA accepts the accusation as correct by way of his silence."
Gee, I guess that since Mr. Fitzpatrick hasn't responded to the accusations that he stole cookie money from girl scouts, that he left a flaming bag of poo on Gary Pettiway's doorstep, and he was caught in a barn while his sailor suit and showing a goat a new meaning of the word "poop deck", that he's therefore guilty of all those charges then, right?
17 July - Dr. Kate is hung up on her revolution kick.
"So it is not a matter of if the American people take their government back, its a matter of when. "
"The matter of how… not to be broadcast here so the spiders that weave a net around the words of liberty and freedom can anticipate our every move. "
Translation - she doesn't want to say anything that might come to the attention of law enforcement.
"But there may not be enough time to just ‘let it fall’…especially if we are without protection. Each day that goes by shows that the government is in open rebellion against the Constitution and the American people…I have called it a war of aggression by the U.S. government against us and will do so again until it is clear what we are up against. "
"Wahhh!! The uppity darkie is still President! Wahhh!"
So do we Americans have an insurrection on our hands? A rebellion against the Constitution perpetuated against the people by the political and economic elite?"
Funny, the only people who seem interested in an "insurrection" are people like Dr. Kate and her merry band.
"Obama’s blatant daily violations of the constitution–allowed by ‘law enforcement’ are permitted…yes it seems to be open rebellion, a renegade and runaway tyranny."
The irony being if it was a "tyranny", Dr. Kate would have found herself in a prison camp ages ago, instead of spewing her sedition in front of an audience.
"Of the many acts that began to unravel the republic, the Fourteenth Amendment laid the foundation for much of what would happen in the 20th Century. This was ‘ratified’ during reconstruction after the Civil War at the point of a gun."
Wow. Dr. Kate is showing a streak of neo-Confederatism here. Since it seems the only people who rail against the 14th Amendment are Neo-Confederates and white nationalists.
"Thus the 20th Century’s events, and debts incurred, were incurred a result of an insurrection against the United States by the political class and Euro-American financiers."
I suspect that by "Euro-American financiers" she means "the Jews".
July 17, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Everyone wants to do something…are we conditioned to looking for ‘a leader’, who and what are we waiting for?"
18 July - And another Sellin treasonberry.
"We must now accept the fact that the present United States Congress is hopelessly corrupt.
They are deliberately ignoring legitimate requests by the American people to address the fact that Barack Obama is an illegal President and to investigate the evidence that he has committed felonies."
"Wahhh! We can't them to take us seriously!"
"In my opinion, they are traitors and criminals, who must be removed from office and tried in a court of law. There is sufficient evidence to conclude that Obama has committed felonies. By intentionally engaging in a cover-up, Congress would be guilty of “Misprison of felony”, also a felony."
O RLY?? And just how do you plan to do that??
"The American people can no longer tolerate such a blatant violation of the Constitution and a willful undermining of the rule of law. It is now our responsibility to take action by making lawful citizen’s arrests and forcing the perpetrators to face the criminal justice system."
"Lawful citizens arrests" like the one Walter Fitzpatrick tried??
"The Democratic Party is controlled by its extreme left wing and it receives unwavering and uncritical support from the radically biased main stream media. They have made themselves a threat to the survival of our republic."
Someone is trying to incite another Jared Lee Loughner.
"Thomas Jefferson stated:
“All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
The tyrants in Congress will destroy our republic if we let them. We will not be timid. Let’s roll."
Yep, he's trying for incitement now, in hopes one of his readers listens to his dog whistles and carries though.....
BTW, according to the Monticello Association, Thomas Jefferson never said anything of the sort:
"This sentence is often seen paired with the following: "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." That sentence does not appear in the Virginia Constitution drafts or text as adopted, nor in any other Jefferson writings that we know of."
So not only is Sellin openly calling for insurrection against the United States, but he's misquoting Thomas Jefferson as well.
Not that his readers care:
"I don't care about your Ideology or your Political leanings. If this is not stopped post haste. They will take this Republic down and with them EVERY VESTIGE of what the FRAMERS intended for this Republic to be. If that doesn't scare you then so be it. I for one along with a few of my fellow Patriots will simply not allow it without a fight. Its just that simple.
Search your hearts my fellow Americans, and see if the deeds of your Grandfathers and their Grandfathers don't cry out for JUSTICE. I choose to not go quietly into the Night.DO YOU?
Posted by ledbythnose on 07/18 at 05:43 PM"
Oh, here's one I haven't heard before:
"Are you aware that Obama filed his Oath of Office too late to be president? The law states (4 USC 101 & 102) that the oath must be taken, subscribed and FILED - in the correct office - "prior to assuming the duties of the office". You may recall that Justice Roberts administered the Oath twice, believing that the first Oath given was invalid. During the time between the first, fatally flawed oath, and second days later, Obama made "official" acts as President, for which each count is a felony. He was also required to file both in Washington, D.C. and in Illinois with the Secretaries of State. His Oath is a public document not covered by his executive order not to reveal anything about his past. As a public document, if you can find where it's filed, they are required by law to give you a certified copy. Compare the file date to his start date. If they are not the same, he's not the President. It's a matter of law. The procedure to rid the government of a "usurper" is the Writ of Quo Warranto.
And, are you aware that, unlike a fatally flawed Oath, there is no procedure in the law for prosecuting and convicting someone of "violating their Oath of Office"? There are only criminal court proceedings followed by impeachment IF the president is NOT a usurper. If he is a usurper, impeachment is impossible and a simple arrest, charges, prosecution, sentencing in criminal court and incarceration or execution are the only procedures.
Either way, he's gone.
Posted by Greg Willis on 07/18 at 11:54 AM,"
Actually, according to that silly thing called the "US Constitution", Obama legally became President at 12:01pm on 20 January 2009, with or without the Oath of Office. And both oaths - the original and the "do-over" were done within 24 hours of each other.
More than that, 4 USC § 101 relates to State officials:
"TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 4 > § 101 § 101. Oath by members of legislatures and officers
Every member of a State legislature, and every executive and judicial officer of a State, shall, before he proceeds to execute the duties of his office, take an oath in the following form, to wit: “I, A B, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States.”
And 4 USC § 102 is who can administer said oath:
"TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 4 > § 102 § 102. Same; by whom administered
Such oath may be administered by any person who, by the law of the State, is authorized to administer the oath of office; and the person so administering such oath shall cause a record or certificate thereof to be made in the same manner, as by the law of the State, he is directed to record or certify the oath of office."
Neither applies to Presidential oaths or requires a copy of said oath be filed with State officials.
Greg Willis doesn't know what he's talking about. Of course, with his "execution" comment, I doubt he cares...