In today's dispatches, more about Joe Arpaio - and the fact that his "posse" might not exactly have the same sense of urgency the birthers do.
Daryn Moran seems to be settling into his post-military career of "village loon". Ron Polland / Polarik continues to add to his cute little conspiracy. JB Williams is looking for One Insane Kook to lead this country, while "One Pissed-Off Vietnam Vet" will settle for One Insane Paranoid Racist Kook.
Jerome Corsi claims the "vault copy" of the long form is a - wait for it - forgery. This is based on a story from the wearer of the uber-patriotic speedo of doom, and confirmed by Corsi's bowl of Alpha-Bits. Lawrence Sellin seems to have a concern about the GOP nominating some one of a dusky hue.
And finally Zampolit Dean Haskins reports on his Hawaiian vacation, in a tale full of personal attacks and projection, and remarkably thin on anything like "facts" or "reality".
19 September - Gawker comments on Arpaio:
"There's a rumor going around Arizona about a black fellow claiming to be president, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio, is going to get to the bottom of it—even if it
gets him tons of press kills him.
But how can one man track down this impostor, especially when there are so many immigrants whose rights need to be violated? Don't worry, citizen (you are a citizen, right?)! Arpaio (pictured above with Men's Wearhouse model) has help: the "Cold Case Posse." Thinly-Veiled Racism's Paper of Record, World Net Daily, reports:
The "Cold Case Posse," however, has been described as a "posse within the posse," consisting of volunteers with professional experience in conducting investigations, including individuals chosen because of their professional backgrounds in law enforcement, as well as lawyers who have participated in criminal or civil cases and individuals with specialized skills in fields ranging from accounting to conducting criminal forensic examinations.
In the past few months, the Cold Case Posse has been inactive, largely because of budgetary limitations within the Maricopa County Sheriff's office.
But in the past few days, Arpaio has assigned a 5-person group serving under the auspices of the Cold Case Posse to undertake the Obama birth certificate investigation.
Who are the five brave patriots who make up the Cold Case Posse? (And will each be given a real big-boy badge to wear???) Their identities remain secret, no doubt over concerns that they'll be assassinated—just as Osama bin Laden was, only days before he was going to reveal Obama's birthplace. But we are pretty sure that they will finally get to the bottom of this issue.
19 September - The Pest and eFail reports that Daryn Moran knows how to use Microsoft Word and a copy machine.
(Email and phone number redacted by me)
"Today I went to the Gretna library, used Microsoft Word, and created a basic flyer. I gave one to the librarian, a police deputy parked outside, my son’s elementary school, my daughter’s middle school, a representative from HearthStone Homes, and my CPA. I haven’t scanned it to my computer so I’ll just retype it here for your viewing:
(in large 72 font and centered): WANTED
“ “ B. OBAMA
“ “ REWARD
(then the following text):
See Daryn J. Moran
(redacted) or (redacted)"
Awww. He's discovered desktop publishing.
"I would like to ask the public for someone who can be in charge of collecting names and the reward money and for the safety and security of the reward account. In what fashion can donations be accepted where the donor is 100% confident the funds will be used as advertised?"
I suspect nobody in birtherstan knows how to do that, but there's a lot of hucksters in birtherstan who will claim to be just the person to help.....
"Again, I’ve already called a local County Commissioner and the Sheriff. I intend for them to see the flyer, as well as giving one to the Mayor in a visit. "
It's nice for the new town kook to introduce themselves like that. Lets the elected people know what to expect.
19 September - AzFamily.com comments on Arpaio:
"On one of the latest covers of Globe magazine the headline read, ‘Cops Probe Obama’. Also on the cover, front and center was a picture of Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
“He should focus on something that matters,” said Julie German.
German said the authenticity of President Barack Obama's birth certificate was already proven.
“I believe that he was born in the United States,” said German.
In April, the White House released Obama's original long-form birth certificate.
Even so, Sheriff Arpaio said nearly 300 people have asked him to do some digging."
However, those 300 people (plus all the birthers that think Arpaio is going to drive right to the WHITE House and frogmatch that uppity black guy right out of there for some frontier "justice"), may have a while to wait....
"Arpaio didn’t have a specific date the inquiry would wrap up.
The sheriff said the inquiry could take up to five years to complete."
Which, based on the results of the 2012 election, means it might be complete around 1 to 5 years AFTER Obama leaves office......
Any Day Now??
19 September - The Daily Kos comments on Arpaio.
"And so a five-person team will now again investigate what just about everybody else, including Donald Trump, already knows: Yes, the scary black man was born in America. Fortunately, it appears the "investigation" by his assigned five-person "posse" (I'm crying here, but that's the actual word used) will be funded entirely through donations. These donations will primarily be collected from stupid people, which as a slight plus will mean that stupid people will be left with slightly less money."
20 September - Found on Jerome Corsi's facebook:
Jerry, I'm coming out with a special book supplement in the next few weeks called "the Seattle Slew" - about the slew of identity fraud conspirators in Seattle responsible for manufacturing the composite character of Stanley Ann Dunham (SAD), high school student, SAD (alias Anna Obama), the mother of an infant (not BO Jr.) living in Seattle in 1961-2, and SAD, the anthropologist who did get a graduate degree from U of H and worked for the Ford Foundation in Jakarta.
SAD's biography is a melding of these three different people and life tracks: SAD, the anthropologist, is not SAD, the Mercer Island High School student. No SAD graduated Mercer Island High School in 1960, no SAD attended the U of Hawaii in 1960, and no SAD met BO Sr. there in 1960 and subsequently gave birth to BO Jr. in 1961.
The "Slew" are responsible for creating Photoshop photo forgeries to "document" the fictitious life of SAD in Seattle and Mercer Island. They even fabricated the apartment house where Stanley Ann, aka Anna Obama, and BO allegedly lived.
Seattle is the "Ramallah of the West Coast" i.e., home to the most rabidly pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli activists in America (remember the bus ad controversy that Pam Geller and Robert Spencer fought?).
Seattle is just as rabidly pro-Obama as well"
Polland / Polarik continues his slide into madness.
20 September - At the Pest and eFail, JB Williams has a simple litmus test for a presidential candidate. Never mind things like "job creation", "economy", "ability to lead", "sanity", or some such nonsense.
No, the question is "are you
batshit insane a birther?"
"Only if a candidate can pass this test should there be any other questions concerning their candidacy. If they do not stand for Article II, then they cannot stand for the Constitution. The U.S. Constitution is an all or nothing proposition. Everything in that document matters or nothing in that document matters. There is no middle ground on this one…
As a candidate seeking the highest office in the land, will you immediately challenge Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility to appear on the 2012 ballot?
Get the answer to this question wrong and I have no other questions for you. Fail the test to protect and preserve Article II, and I will not trust you to protect and preserve the Charters of Freedom from the Oval Office.?"
20 September - Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi makes another claim that the "vault copy" of Obama's long form is - surprise! - a forgery.
His source? None other than talk show host and Nixon felon G. Gordon Liddy.
"Another Hawaii source with inside knowledge has asserted that Obama supporters placed a forged 1961 long-form birth certificate in the vault of the Hawaii Department of Health.
Talk-radio host and former Nixon White House operative G. Gordon Liddy told WND that one of his trusted informants in Hawaii reported to him that while the document was forged recently, there may have been tampering with official Obama birth records as far back as 1978."
Right......... You're trying to tell me that they were tampering with the records because someone thought a 17 year old mixed race child might someday grow up to be President???? And this is based on the claims of a convicted felon??
Tell me Corsi, was Liddy wearing the uber-patriotic speedo of doom when he told you this??
"Liddy's warning came in response to WND reports that Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is mobilizing a law enforcement unit with the authority to investigate allegations that the Obama birth certificate released by the White House April 27 is a forgery."
You mean the one that Arpaio said might take as long as five years???
"Liddy's warning coincides with similar warnings WND received from another source who said in February that an Obama 1961 birth certificate had been forged and placed into the Hawaii Department of Health records.
That source now says that the White House, by releasing an electronic file of Obama's birth certificate, is laying a trap.
"The computer-generated PDF file was obviously not a scan of an original 1961 birth certificate, so predictably it created a brouhaha that the document was forged," the source said. "Now, all Obama has to do to get a jump in the polls is to release a true photocopy of the forged 'original' to humiliate and destroy the birthers."
*Chuckle* So they're already laying the groundwork to dismiss and claim as forgery any additional proof that the state of Hawaii releases. Cute.
"This same source advised WND that the Achilles heel of such a strategy is that Kapiolani Medical Center has never produced independent corroborating evidence that Obama's mother, Ann Dunham Obama, was ever a patient in the hospital.
Nor have the medical records of the now-deceased attending physician named in the Obama birth certificate, Dr. David A. Sinclair, been found to corroborate that Dunham was one of his patients in 1961."
Those pesky state and federal patient privacy laws again......
"Independently, radical Obama supporters known as Obama robots," or "Obots," have made repeated claims that Obama operatives have stolen 1961-era ink and 1961-era security paper in preparation for forging authentic-looking Obama birth records that could pass forensic inspection."
Funny, I seem to recall the BIRTHERS making that claim.....
"Exhibit 1 shows the forged Certificate of Loss of Nationality form, together with an Obot comment at the bottom suggesting that birthers could be induced to accept the document as legitimate."
They then repost this document:
Notice what it says on the bottom: "This image is merely a joke about the absurd allegations that Obama relinquished his US citizenship when he was a young child. Anyone who bothers doing a Google search for Certificate of Loss of Nationality will see that this image is based on a 2008 CLN issued in Slovakia. If you think that this image is genuine, you're a damn fool."
So it says, clearly, that anyone willing to believe this is a fool. How this equates to "suggesting birthers could be induced to accept the document" I'll leave as an exercise for the reader - except to suggest that maybe Corsi does know the IQ of his target audience quite well.
Because the funny thing about this article seems to be Corsi complaining that the birthers will believe ANYTHING if it supports their bias.
20 September - Lawrence Sellin is upset that a dusky-skinned ethnic Republic might - gasp! - want to be President someday.
"The precedent of an illegal President having been established by the inauguration of Obama, the Republicans now feel free to promote their own illegal candidates.
I believe Marco Rubio is a good man and a fine public servant. Unfortunately, like Obama, he is not eligible for the Presidency or the Vice Presidency because he is not a natural born citizen."
Funny how neither US law or the US Constitution agree with you on that regard.
"Being born in the U.S. makes one a U.S. citizen, but not necessarily a natural born citizen, which requires US citizen parents at the time of birth. "
Funny how there's nothing in US law or the US Constitution stating that such a third tier of citizenship exists.
"The Republican Party has a choice, to embrace again a government of the people, by the people and for the people or choose the path of political expediency and maintain the corrupt status quo.
If they choose the former, the American people will overwhelmingly fall in behind them to a Republican victory in 2012.
If the Republican Party chooses the latter, we will stand our ground and fight to take back our government."
Funny, I didn't even know Marco Rubio was running. I guess the very thought that the GOP might someday nominate him or some other dusky ethnic type is simply intolerable in the sedition-addled mind of Lawrence Sellin.
And in comments: (Bold face mine)
"Mr. Sellin, the whole "birther" thing needs a leader if we're going to make headway. Somebody that can be the head, somebody that can present the clear and concise message of why Obama is not eligible, even if he was born in the U.S.. Somebody that has the guts to confront these elitists in Congress face to face, like yourself. There should be millions of us marching on the Capitol Building and White House, this is the most devastating attack on the Constitution in this nation's history. We need to make these elitists in DC afraid of the citizens of this nation again. They are sitting in DC laughing at us when they should be trembling with fear. What the heck can we do? I've told people that I work with and associate with etc, but something has to happen quickly if we are going to survive, this nation is over the cliff and in a freefall. 90% of this nation is still asleep, it's frustrating beyond belief. I'm more than willing to participate in a large scale march on the Capital/civil disobedience but I'm not going to fly 3000 miles for something that resembles a friggin backyard barbeque. The time to actually physically get in this fight is now. Get Corsi, Taitz, Keyes, Farah, Prager, Kirchner etc and lets get something set up and scare the crap out of these traitors in DC.
Posted by Elegy on 09/20 at 02:50 PM
21 September - At the Pest and eFail, Zampolit Haskins does an additional report on his Hawaiian vacation.
"Our first visit was to Kapiolani Medical Center, one of the two hospitals for which there have been claims made of being the birthplace of baby Barry (Queens Medical Center being the other). Our intention was to capture the visit on video, but we were informed that we could not do so inside the building."
Damn those pesky patient privacy laws!!!
"After I had released that report, there were the expected comments from the truthaphobes, otherwise known as Obots, dissecting and doubting everything in it but the punctuation."
Yeah, because you were proven to have lied. Again.
"I recently witnessed Dr. Corsi, having obviously grown weary with the debased online comments made by a small group of Fogbow wannabes, uncharacteristically assail them verbally, and I must say, those brief diatribes were some of the most enjoyable comments I can remember ever reading."
So he got a kick out of Corsi's shrill and unhinged whining that the "obots" were being MEAN to him?? Well, like attracts like I guess....
"There is a Steven, a Cindy, and a couple Patricks who appear to do nothing else in life but sit at their computers and deride those of us with whom they disagree. "
My goodness. I think he's talking about yours truly.
Though I do a lot more than snark at birthers. I walk. I curl. I spend time with my family and friends. I go out places. In short, I don't live my life consumed by hatred, bigotry, and paranoia.
Which puts me one up on many of the birthers I suppose.
"As pitiful an existence as that must be, it can still be somewhat of an irritant to those of us who are daily targets of their mendacious manure. "
You mean the fact you're thin-skinned and hate being laughed at??
"Nobody enjoys lies being told about them."
So why do you lie about people Haskins??
"One of the Patricks enjoys reading his deluded words so much that he copies and pastes many of his own comments to multiple websites,."
*Raises an eyebrow* Wow. He really IS thin-skinned and hates to be challenged or laughed at, isn't he??
Particularly since Haskins is known for.....copying and pasting many of his claims, words, and comments to multiple websites, newspaper comment pages, facebook......
"I suppose in a vainglorious attempt to receive some sort of praise for them. I’m no psychotherapist, but there appear to be some possible mommy issues involved"
Projection much Zampolit Haskins??
Why don't you ask your friend, unlicensed pastoral "therapist" Sam Sewell? I'm sure he'll be able to tell you what you want to hear, no matter how full of bullshit it is.
"Anyway, this Cindy critter reported that she had called someone at the Kapiolani Medical Center who first told her that, in that particular office, there would have only been one person working—a receptionist. Since that was a blatant lie, I reported the layout of the office here, recounting the multiple desks and employees who work in that office. Then, supposedly, the hospital official told her, “We have no comment on this topic, except to say it is not true.” "
So we're supposed to believe the claims of a known liar like Dean Haskins then??
"I guess we’ll never know, for immediately prior to leaving the hotel in Honolulu to go to the airport, I called the hospital in an attempt to verify that the “official” did tell this lie. In the first call I made, I merely started to explain the comment that had been made, and the individual to whom I was speaking abruptly stated, “We have no comment on this,” and then hung up on me. I called back five times, and each time (there were at least three different people who answered), I would barely start to speak before the hospital employee would just hang up on me. That is certainly not indicative of forthrightness and honesty."
No, it's indicative of irritation and annoyance over the fact they're being harassed by conspiracy nutters. Plus, if Dean Haskins phone manner is anything like his on-line manner (thin-skinned, short-tempered, dismissive, arrogant, and insulting), I can see why after a while they started to hang up on him rather than deal with his abuse.
"But wait, there was a second meeting at Kapiolani that day! Because the person to whom we spoke in that second meeting was so cordial and accommodating, and because we really do not desire to cause the individual any grief, I will not disclose a name or position (even though I can already imagine the vast Obot scrutiny not doing so will likely cause). That meeting lasted nearly an hour, and during the meeting, Miki asked about a purported letter from the White House to Kapiolani, and asked if the letter existed, if it was in a vault somewhere in the hospital, and if we could see it. The person to whom we spoke denied knowing anything about the letter, but said that the answer to Miki’s questions would be researched, and sent to her via email."
And the response??
"Good Afternoon Miki,
It was a pleasure meeting all of you last week. With regards to your inquiry of if I was able to find an answer to the question whether a letter from the White House exists please know that we have politely declined these inquiries.
I hope that your trip home was a safe one and my email finds you doing well.
So basically "no, we're not going to comment, have a nice day"
"Hmmmm. Wouldn’t one expect a hospital in which a president was born to take every possible opportunity to exploit that fact for PR purposes? Wouldn’t one expect there to be some indication of it somewhere on their grounds?"
Not if the hospital feels that such PR or such a sign would open themselves up as a target to a group of unbalanced conspiracy nuts. They have to balance PR and publicity over the demands of patient privacy and security, and could very well have come to the conclusion that such a sign or promotion would open themselves up to undue harassment and disruption of hospital proceedures.
"Why must these (and many other) questions even have to be asked about someone who claimed his would be the “most transparent” presidency in history? Why does Honolulu continue to be either tight-lipped or downright deceptive about its purported “native-born son?”
Hmmm.....maybe they're tired of dealing with obnoxious haoles who refuse to acknowledge reality and keep talking trash about their state???
21 September - "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet" seems to confuse "We the People" with "I the Drunken Paranoid Racist"
"For those of us who have been paying attention, the answer is beyond obvious. For some of the others, like Tea Partiers and Birthers, the answer may actually have no bearing on their own narrow field of expertise. I am not saying that the “stimulus” isn’t just another name for payoffs and kickbacks. After all, the Ship of State is sinking so it’s always the case for the crooks to empty the coffers. I’m not saying that the place of Obama’s birth isn’t important, because it’s very important. No, the ONLY issue is your life, and the lives of your loved ones, relatives, neighbors, the lives of all Americans, Infidels, unbelievers, dog-lovers, eaters of barbequed pulled pork sandwiches, bacon, ham, who allow women to be seen in public without a hijab, or at the beach in a bikini."
Oh really??? And what, pray tell, is said issue?
"If there were a candidate who does not care about being “liked,” who doesn’t care about being reelected for a second term, who isn’t afraid to call for (and make stick) the deportation of each and every illegal immigrant in America, who isn’t afraid to deport every Muslim, who isn’t afraid to kick the UN out for good, who supports the Second Amendment, who will arrest every officer of the Federal Reserve Bank for Grand Theft, who will save our dollar, who will demand that teachers teach and if Johnny can’t read, he doesn’t graduate; that this cap and trade nonsense stops right now: don’t pollute, that we don’t give any money to our enemies, that we go in and totally destroy Iran’s nuclear program, that we support Israel 110% 24/7, if we can find a person who knows about the military firsthand who isn’t a “politician” but a United States citizen who took an Oath to the United States Constitution, if we can find someone like that......"
Oh, I'm sure you can find someone like that. Try Lyndon LaRouche, or check around the forums at "Stormfront".
"....we’ll have one heck of a good chance. If not, we’ll have to take our guns to the streets."
So the choice is between a insane paranoid racist wanting to launch a jihad against anyone they don't like, and civil war??
How about "none of the above"??