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September 28, 2011

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Shay

The Secret Service seems to have been a lot nicer than I would have been, in their shoes.

Joe Acerbic

Threatening to kidnap ("arrest") the president is punishable with up to 5 years in prison. Moron too got off with a warning because birfoons are "special".

Real American Patriot

It doesn't matter. Either Moran will arrest Obambi, or he'll be kicked out of the office he stole. Either way, since he's only a 14th amendment citizen, he shouldn't be in the white house - at least not in a stolen position of authority.

Like any other retired piece of obsolete farm equipment, it's time to dump Obambi.

The Magic M

> And yes, it looks like Moran got a wakeup call.

Isn't it interesting how much birthers are like children? Day in, day out, they are stomping their feet, "demanding" stuff and talking like a true bully.
But once they get a friendly warning from the "adults", they suddenly go "I didn't mean it, I promise I'll be good, I couldn't hurt a fly!". Fascinating.

> "He needs to be executed for treason for national security reasons."

I don't think the reasoning works that way. If it did, they'd need to execute me too if they accidentally told me any "national secret". I don't think the Constitution supports that.

> They still think Manning's fake trial had some legal validity.

I always ask birthers bringing up Manning's trial how the jury was "impartially selected". They never have an answer to that. I suppose they know very well that you can't just rally up a couple of Miami Heat fans to declare the Mavs' NBA victory "void".

Northland10
but he said he is thankful for the meeting he had with the agents, as they were able to provide a lot of needed information for him.

This makes it sound like the birthers were egging him on with an assurance that there would be no consequences, "everything will be fine" and "you can legally arrest the President." Maybe the agents explained the true consequences should he continue with his plan.

Tarrant

You know, in all my time following birthers and debunkers, it's been rare for me to see non-birthers or debunkers threaten birthers with any sort of physical harm. A few times where people have pointed out that the road some birthers are on (LLike Moran, at least at one point) could lead to violence (such as arrest) but not much else.

However, peruse any birther site and one will see dozens of actual threats of harm to at the minimum the President ("Execute him for treason!") and not uncommonly practically anyone who has the audacity to merely be a non-birther.

Perhaps there are groups of non-birthers out there that threaten birthers, there's nuts in any group, but it seems ridiculous to me to see the birthers complaining about threats to their person.

The Magic M

> This makes it sound like the birthers were egging him on with an assurance that there would be no consequences, "everything will be fine" and "you can legally arrest the President."

If he actually believed that, I wonder how he got any rank in the armed forces. I mean, it should be obvious to a toddler than you can just "arrest the President" whenever you believe that's justified. If that were possible, every President would've been "arrested" zillions of times.
You don't need a law degree to understand that.

> but it seems ridiculous to me to see the birthers complaining about threats to their person

Sure, but conspiracy believers always see themselves as "the eternal victim". If there are no real threats, their mind makes up some for them.

I remember a birther on WND I debated. He first claimed he felt "threatened" when I asked him if he thought 69 million Obama voters would not care if some wingnut tried to remove the President. Then in the next post he asked me for my home address to pay me a visit with his gun. Go figure...

Patrick McKinnion

That Other Mike - I suspect troll, but I don't rule out stupid.

Donna

"Given the preponderance of evidence that [insert name here] is a poseur to the presidency and might be involved in serious crimes such as wire fraud, election fraud, forgery, social security fraud, and obstruction of justice, we would like to see a full criminal investigation launched by someone who takes his oath to the U.S. Constitution seriously."

The irony is that Bush and Chaney did most of these things and no one cared about holding up the Constitution then. Can you say "hypocracy"?

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