(Sorry I didn't get this out earlier today, had to help a friend who fell sick)
In today's dispatches, well, the majority of the reports are the various lead-ups to Dr. Orly's trip to New Hampshire to demand that that scary black man not be allowed on the ballot. The Pest and eFail, World Nut Daily, and Birther Report all reported on it.
And the result. Well, it's Dr. Orly, so you can guess what the Election Board's decision was.
In other news, Victoria Jackson has a web based talk show called "PolitiChicks" which can only be described as "embarrassingly awful". Leo Donofrio makes Yet Another Change to his blog. And Ann Barnhardt may have discovered that there's no real market for a crazy conspiracy-ridden racist broker.
16 November - Not surprisingly, the birthers have gone ape dump over the news that the New Hampshire election board will review Dr. Orly's claim. Professional Seditionist Sharon Rondeau breathlessly reposts Dr. Orly's claim.
"Taitz did not know if Obama or his representative will be attending the hearing. New Hampshire State Representative Harry Accornero has informed Taitz that he will be present on Friday when, as Taitz was informed, a five-member panel will evaluate “whether to keep Obama off the ballot in NH.”"
So all that's needed is three people in the reality-based community then?
"It is Taitz’s understanding that there will not be a time limit imposed by the Elections Board for her to air her complaint, which alleges that the birth certificate Obama presented to the public on April 27, 2011 is fraudulent and that he is using a social security number issued in the state of Connecticut which was never assigned to him."
I suspect that Dr. Orly's understanding is, as usual, incorrect.
16 November - The election board for New Hampshire releases the agenda for their planned 18 November meeting (PDF)
"The Ballot Law Commission will meet on Friday, November 18, 2011 at 2:00 p.m. in Room 307 of the Legislative Office Building to hear the following:
BLC 2011 -1 Craig Freis - form of name on ballot for Democratic Presidential Primary.
BLC 2011- 2 Keith Russell Judd - access to Democratic Presidential Primary.
BLC 2011 -3 Complaint of Joseph Haas regarding all candidates who filed for president.
BLC 2011-4 Complaint reo Candidate Barack Obama"
Craig Freis seems to be a perennial candidate from California
Keith Russell Judd is interesting. In 2008 he managed to con his way onto the Idaho ballot while serving time at a federal prison in Texas. He might still be there, since he was due for release in 2013.
Joseph Hass is also interesting. He's a tax protestor who's been arrested in the past for "assaulting a tax collector, a police officer and a police chief". He was questioned about pipe bombs found in and around libraries, and made death threats against elected officials children. He's also zapped a police officer with a stun gun, and has a reputation as a local crank.
And then there's Dr. Orly……
16 November - World Nut Daily also reports on Dr. Orly's upcoming trip to New Hampshire.
"A hearing, with the apparent support of two state lawmakers, is scheduled before the New Hampshire Ballot Law Commission to hear a complaint filed by Orly Taitz that alleges Barack Obama has used fraudulent documents and a fraudulent Social Security number.
The hearing is scheduled Friday at 2 p.m. in Room 307 of the New Hampshire Legislative Office Building, and Taitz is encouraging the public to be present.
The state holds the first presidential primary Jan. 10, 2012.
On her website, Taitz said state Rep. Harry Accornero had said he was joining in her complaint, and she expects Rep. Larry Rappoport also to be in attendance. The lawmakers could not be reached immediately for comment."
Maybe Rappaport is still waiting for Dr. Orly to spell his name right? After all, he IS one of her plaintiffs in Keys/Barnett v Obama…..
"Taitz has been involved in a long list of high-profile cases over the past few years that have challenged Obama's eligibility under the Constitution's requirement that the president be a natural-born citizen. Some believe that means a birth in the United States, and they doubt the validity of the image of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth that Obama released in April."
And she's racked up a perfect score of no wins in doing so.
16 November - Cody Judy tries to ride Dr. Orly's coattails.
"I acknowledge herein my desire to enter into the New Hampshire Primary as a Candidate for President, by said entry date of the 3rd Friday of November, 2011 upon the confirmation by The New Hampshire Ballot Law Commission that the Constitution's requirements are still in effect, and Barack Obama is prohibited from the New Hampshire Primary as a qualified candidate.
If this matter is extended by lawful decision, I herein also request that an extension of my entry fee of $1,000 be extended for the decision, or in lieu of merit are extended until after the Primary if necessary. For it is my only desire to enter a constitutionally legal Primary, and that such would clearly uphold the U.S. Constitution, in a Presidential Candidates Qualification, is reasonable expectation.
If the matter, by your decision, is to allow Barack Obama on the Primary Ballot of New Hampshire when he clearly by his own represented record is not a natural born citizen qualified under the Constitution's guidelines and Supreme Court Case precedent, then of course standards so long upheld and extolled by New Hampshire's own Secretary of State are null and void, as well the reputation held in high esteem of New Hampshire's Primary since 1916, nearly 100 years of its States tradition."
Translation: "Wahhh! You keep that scary black man off the ballot or I won't pay my filing fee in your state and YOU'LL BE SORRY!!!" WAHHHH!"
16 November - Mixed reviews at Birther Report on Dr. Orly's New Hampshire trip.
Some hopeful...
Anonymous said…
Pray for a miracle. That justice will be done.
November 16, 2011 3:03 PM
Covert Informant said…
I am anxious to see how this turns out Friday with the NH state lawmaker on hand. This outcome could set precedence of how things will be when challenging Obama to get on the ballots in other states.
November 16, 2011 5:34 PM
Some questioning:
Anonymous said… Hmmmmmm, Ballot Access Commission rule 206.10:"(a) Where facts material to the subject matter of the proceeding are in dispute, the proceeding shall, consist of a trial-type evidentiary hearing with the subsequent submission of memoranda"
Does Orly know this will be trial-like? I hope she brings her witnesses and has them well-prepared for the cross examination they will be put through.
November 16, 2011 5:56 PMAnonymous said…
Dr. Tatiz should have covered his bases and used ALL of ObasTURDS aliases including Barry Soetoro, Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Marshall-Davis, and Barry Hussein Obama.
November 16, 2011 6:04 PM
And some expecting another Dr. Orly failure.
Anonymous said… @AnonymousIt would be a pretty one-sided trial-like hearing, as Orly gave notice to 20 irrelevant people but did not bother to notify the other interested parties such as the DNC or the Obama campaign or Obama's counsel, as is required by the rules. More Orly genius at play.
This is the type of thing she just does not pay attention to.
November 16, 2011 6:21 PMCovert Informant said…
Ok I noticed something on the complaint posted above. Mrs Taitz spelled 'Candidate' as 'Candide'. These forms have to be precise when filled out.
November 16, 2011 7:35 PMAnonymous said…
@Anonymous @ 6:21"If it is "trial like" she should be able to request at least a certified copy, not the one on the internet. To back i up you would need access to see the original."
"Trial-like" is in the Commission's rules of procedure. It means that both sides put on testimony and offer exhibits, and the opposing side gets to cross examine. Then the Commission will make findings of fact and law.
There is no provision for discovery. If Orly doesn't have it already, she's not getting it through New Hampshire.
November 16, 2011 9:22 PMAnonymous said…
You are correct that Orly does not pay attention, particularly to law and rules of procedure.Her failure to follow the law and give notice to Obama of her challenge may result in this "case" being dismissed. The requirement to give notice to the candidate who is being challenged is mandatory, not optional.
Once again, the world's worst attorney. She is just now asking her supporters to research the rules of the Ballot Access Commission. Why didn't she do this before filing the objection?
November 16, 2011 9:29 PM
17 November - A day before Dr. Orly's trip to New Hampshire and already she's trying to figure out how to explain away her failure. (malware and redirect warning)
"SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT BRAD E. COOK, CHAIRMAN OF ELECTIONS LAW BOARD OF THE STATE OF NH
Posted on | November 17, 2011"
Worried he's not bat guano insane?
"Brad Cook, chair of the board
Buena Vista Mall to me
Bradford E. Cook (Brad)
He is a board member and Chair of the state Ballot Law Commission on which he also served in the 1980s
He has practiced with Sheehan Phinney Law since 1973
http://www.sheehan.com/people/attorneys/Bradford-E.-Cook.aspx
Following article states he is a RINO;
http://www.nhinsider.com/rep-steve-vaillancourt/2011/1/27/just-whom-does-bradford-cook-represent-1.html"
*Chuckle*
17 November - The Onion's non-parody AV Club reports on Victoria Jackson's latest project, a web-based talk show called "PolitiChicks"
"Their first missive in this war against all that robot propaganda? Chapter one of what will surely be a 1,000-part series on the “Islamization” of America and how it’s so obviously tied to gay marriage, with Jackson expressing her fear of imminent beheading in the streets in ukulele-assisted song, then declaring, “Islam says, ‘Kill gay people.’ That's why I don't get why liberals are pro-Muslim, and pro-gay. We're lucky that most Muslims are lukewarm or we'd all be dead." Also: "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims." Ha ha, that is great. Again, it’s all a little on the nose, but you certainly have to admire her commitment to a bit, even if every day the line gets slightly blurrier between “conceptual genius” and “complete idiot who actually believes these things and then says them out loud like even she's not really listening to herself.” But such is the nature of comedy!"
17 November - So want to guess where Victoria Jackson took episode 2 of "PolitiChicks?? Straight to birtherstan.
Wow, the stupid is strong here. Including Jackson claiming she "doesn't care what a piece of paper says, Obama's not an American", and "Obama has a passport from Connecticut with different aliases on it. All from someone who claims she doesn't like liars. Yet she's lying like a rug.
She's also sounds like she's guzzling Rush's oxycontin supply. She's stumbling, frazzled, loses her train of thought, and just acts like a complete idiot.
And why it it sound like most of the women on the show are humoring Victoria Jackson??? They repeat the birther talking points, but it seems more like they're reading from a script to get Jackson to lie some more.
This is almost painfully embarrassing to watch.
17 November Looks like Ann Barnhardt is getting out of her commodities trading business.
"It is with regret and unflinching moral certainty that I announce that Barnhardt Capital Management has ceased operations. After six years of operating as an independent introducing brokerage, and eight years of employment as a broker before that, I found myself, this morning, for the first time since I was 20 years old, watching the futures and options markets open not as a participant, but as a mere spectator."
Oh shucky darn??
"The reason for my decision to pull the plug was excruciatingly simple: I could no longer tell my clients that their monies and positions were safe in the futures and options markets – because they are not. And this goes not just for my clients, but for every futures and options account in the United States. The entire system has been utterly destroyed by the MF Global collapse. Given this sad reality, I could not in good conscience take one more step as a commodity broker, soliciting trades that I knew were unsafe or holding funds that I knew to be in jeopardy."
O RLY??? I'm wondering how much of this is true and how much of it is that her business dried up as clients went to a broker who wasn't an insane gun-toting conspiracy-babbling racist???
"Finally, I will not, under any circumstance, consider reforming and re-opening Barnhardt Capital Management, or any other iteration of a brokerage business, until Barack Obama has been removed from office AND the government of the United States has been sufficiently reformed and repopulated so as to engender my total and complete confidence in the government, its adherence to and enforcement of the rule of law, and in its competent and just regulatory oversight of any commodities markets that may reform. So long as the government remains criminal, it would serve no purpose whatsoever to attempt to rebuild the futures industry or my firm, because in a lawless environment, the same thievery and fraud would simply happen again, and the criminals would go unpunished, sheltered by the criminal oligarchy."
So basically unless the world does exactly what you want it to do, you're taking your marbles and going home.
How very childish.
And did she refund her clients money??
"To my clients, who literally TO THE MAN agreed with my assessment of the situation, and were relieved to be exiting the markets,"
I wonder how many clients you had left by this point.
18 November - Leo Donofrio's new commenting policy - attorneys only.
"I put my name and professional reputation on everything I post at this blog. "
Which is why you don't HAVE a professional reputation anymore. At least, not a good one.
"From now on, if you want to post here, you must be licensed to practice law. State your real name and the jurisdiction(s) you are licensed in. NO EXCEPTIONS."
So he doesn't want all the Sovereign Citizens and militia types who pretend to know the law? Well, there goes most of HIS audience.
"The national dialogue on the legal issues discussed here has often become juvenile at best and intentionally misleading at worst. "
Exhibit A being Leo Donofrio himself.
"If you tried to argue on a bar examination – or law school final – that the US Supreme Court in Ex Parte Lockwood did not acknowledge Minor v. Happersett as a precedent on the definition of federal citizenship, you would fail. "
Actually you would fail if you tried to argue that it WAS a precedent on the definition of federal citizenship.
"WE ARE THE INQUISITORS.
I am currently working on a project called OCCUPY GRAND JURY. Rather than begging the government to police itself – which is futile – why not take the power of the People back from the three branches who have usurped it from us? The Constitution provides the means by which the People are empowered to do just that. It grants those sworn in as federal grand jurors the power to institute investigations independent of the US Attorney or the Court.
So, if you wish to see elected officials held up to the truth of the law, the nation must re-educate from the ground up. That means taking back the power of “presentment”, a power granted to the People of the United States – by the People of the United States – directly in the 5th Amendment. While an insidious note was included in the 1944 revision of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure which labels this power as “obsolete”, the power does still exist. “Obsolete” simply means out-dated, it does not mean illegal."
Why does this smell like "Fantasy Tiddlywinks League 2 - Electric Boogaloo".
"THE PRESENTMENT POWER DOES NOT ENABLE CITIZENS TO FORM THEIR OWN GRAND JURIES."
Not that it's stopped the birthers in the past.
"This does not mean that you may form your own grand jury lynch mobs. "
Again, not that it's stopped the birthers in the past.
18 November - The Concord Monitor reports on Dr. Orly's appearance in front of the New Hampshire election board.
"At 2 p.m. in Room 307 of the legislative office building, the state's Ballot Law Commission is set to hear a complaint filed by Orly Taitz, a California lawyer who has continued to question the validity of Obama's birth certificate and Social Security number since his 2008 election.
Backing her complaint, Taitz said, are four Republican members of the New Hampshire House: Harry Accornero of Laconia, Larry Rappaport of Colebrook, and Lucien and Carol Vita of Middleton."
So four out of the 400+ members of the New Hampshire state house??
"There's sufficient controversy that I want it investigated," Rappaport, a Ron Paul supporter, said yesterday. "Every time this is brought up . . . we get a lot of flak, but we've never gotten an answer."
The article fails to note that Rappaport is one of Dr. Orly's plaintiffs in Keyes/Barnett v Obama.
"I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but even I could take that apart and see that it was fraudulent," Rappaport said of the long-form certificate.
Well, you were right about not being the "sharpest knife in the drawer" at any rate.
"Lucien Vita said the birth certificate issue "should have been put to bed years ago" and also believes the documents released by Obama were forged.
"Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see," he said.
Vita considers himself a constitutionalist and both he and his wife support Ron Paul, he said."
This is starting to give Ron Paul supporters a bad name…..
"I have doubts because of the delay in the time it actually took to come out with a long-form birth certificate," Vita said. "I don't want to go through another four years of the same tripe."
I don't either, but since the birthers keep bringing up the same tripe…..
"We know where they were born," Vita said of the Republicans. "There's a level of credibility with Obama that has not sufficiently been met in my eyes. If he's a citizen, he should be able to prove it."
Translation - "….in case you haven't noticed, he's *black*"
18 November - Reports are that the New Hampshire Elections Board has dismissed Dr. Orly's request to keep Obama off the ballot in that state.
The first evidence is a YouTube video by a birther calling themselves "GregMCMLV"
The vote was unanimous, and the birthers in attendance cried out "traitors" at the board. Expect some birther to claim the board wasn't legit because the flag had gold fringe on it.
And it looks like "GregMCMLV" is also "GregNH" on Free Republic.
"Concord" Shot Heard Round The World" Fires a blank…Orly did her best but in the end it came down to a NH Elections law statute that simply states that his documentation was in order and he paid the $1K to get on the ballot.
I have video and another person is sending me his video as well. I will post later.
There were several NH reps there and all were outraged at the decision and marched across the street to SoS office. I did not go. I will assume that the SoS will say that he has to abide by the committees decision…..and so it continues.
Here is a link to the decision anyway. FWIW NH FIRES A BLANK
127 posted on November 18, 2011 1:25:51 PM PST by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")"
Oh dear. Sounds grumpy….
1 down, 49 more "no's" to go.
18 November - "Whatever4" at The Fogbow gives an eye-witness view of Dr. Orly's appearance at the New Hampshire Election Board.
(Scribd link here)
"CHAIRMAN COOK: Have you contacted Columbia University? What about the Columbia University Alumni Association?
MS. TAITZ: The alumni association is just going to say he went there, but no, she hasn't contacted those people satisfactorily."
Of course she doesn't want to ask them, she already knows what the answer is.
"He asked: Is there any decision anywhere, from any adjudicating body, which affirmatively says Obama2 wasn't born here?
MS. TAITZ: No. You have no evidence to decide if he's a citizen. You cannot throw the ball back on the Court. Your duty is to order discovery. For forfeiting your duty you are definitely complicit in fraud, treason, forgery, (et cetera)"
Ah, the Dr. Orly "You do what I demand or you're committing treason!" bit. Always good to get people on your side……
"Then Orly says, if I may, and Chairman Cook says, sure. I'd hate to disappoint you."
Get the feeling the chairman was humouring the dingbat??
"Do we have a motion? And then one of the women made the motion to accept Barack Obama's Declaration of Candidacy for placement on the ballot. Another seconded. How many voted yes? All five of them voted yes. How many voted no? None of them."
And how did that go over??
"At which point the crowd went wild. "Traitors!! Shame!! Rip off the Constitution, why don't you? Treason!! It's not over. And then Chairman Cook banged his table. He had no gavel, just his knuckles, and he said, "You are out of order." At which point half the crowd yelled, "No. You're out of order."The bailiff (or security) came in at that point. He's a very tall gentleman. He started ushering people out into the hall.
The commission tried to call the next case."
Don't you just love the courtesy and sense of fair play the birthers show??
"Someone shouted, "You'd better not show your face in the north country. If you come up, you'd better wear a mask. Cowards. The Constitution was written by and for honorable men. There's none here today."
Sounds rather threaty.
18 November - Birther Report gives their take on Dr. Orly's appearance. Needless to say, they're unhappy.
"Anonymous said… I can't believe what is happening. I think its about time to start forming a well regulated militia. This is just crazy. Can our our government really be this blind and corrupt? November 18, 2011 2:32 PM"
"Wahh! They didn't do what I wanted so I'm going to resort to violence, wahhh!!"
18 November - World Nut Daily chimes in.
"A state board in New Hampshire has decided that Barack Obama's name is good to go on the state's 2012 presidential ballot because the application was filled out properly and the $1,000 fee was paid, according to an attorney who challenged his candidacy because of suspicions of fraud.
The determination came today from the state's Ballot Law Commission, which heard arguments from attorney Orly Taitz, who had filed a complaint about Obama's candidacy that was joined by several state lawmakers."
18 November - Tea Party candidate (and Birtherpoolza member) Tony Dolz of Thousand Oaks, California doesn't learn from Dr. Orly's failure.
"Califoirnia businessmanTony Dolz has also filed a complaint and also copied the NH Attorney-General This is clear and willful evasion of their responsibility. Whether it is "criminal" or not, evidence of electoral fraud and ineligibility has been presented. Isn't electoral fraud itself 'criminal?' And they handle THAT, don't they?"
Scribd link here. However, it's pretty much a carbon copy of Dr. Orly's already-rejected disasterpiece.
18 November - Pam Barnett is also slow on the update, filing her own complaint.
(scribed link here. It's pretty badly done)
Young Taitz no sense has.
The Fail is STRONG in this one.
Posted by: Xyxox | November 18, 2011 at 06:48 PM
Wow, another day, another epic birther FAIL. A few points about Taitz:
1. According to the Scrib'd account by Whatever4, when Cook asked Taitz if she's contacted the SSA about Obama's SSN, she said "No". No mention of her failed lawsuit against the SSA Commissioner, one Michael Astrue. Once again, Taitz is caught lying to a government body;
2. Over at the Pest and Efail, the moronic Sharon Rondeau has an "interview" up with Taitz, where the Nitrous Huffer lies her ass off. She claims there were 100 in attendance (as opposed to the 40 Whatever 4 describes). She claims she "found out" that 4 of the Board members are Democrats (jeez!). And, of course, when the mini-mob was screaming at the Board, did the officer of the court do a damned thing to stop it and tell them to respect the Board? No!
As for Ann Barnhardt's comments, futures and options are inherently risky ventures. It's always been that way, and it always will be. It's has nothing to do with the President. It may be that she was shut down by big arbitration awards against her. Cry me a river.
Posted by: WWJD | November 18, 2011 at 08:48 PM
that was GREAT!
Posted by: Atheierthanthou | November 19, 2011 at 02:17 AM
Wow...so much to comment on! I'll start with replying 1st to WWJD's point #2:
Yeah, it is just sickening that folks like Orly, if they got their wish, would oust officials from their posts, such as the Elections Board for the mere "thought crime" of being a "democrat"...or even as Patrick notes above, being a "RINO" (re: Brad Cook, chairman of the BOE).
Again, she demonstrates that if she had power, she'd be even worse of an abuser of rights than the communist background she escaped from.
Seriously, I get really angry whenever I hear folks want to remove someone's rights or job for the mere "crime" of having a legitimate affiliation that they disagree with. I don't think it is over the top at all to say the closest analogy to that type of discriminatory behavior is Nazi Germany.
Posted by: G | November 19, 2011 at 08:24 AM
Patrick, I think maybe we should start identifying and tracking Birthers who hold or are running for office in 2012, at both the state and federal level, and see how they fare in next year's election.
As you mentioned, the NH Concord article identified State Reps Harry Accornero of Laconia, Larry Rappaport of Colebrook, and Lucien and Carol Vita of Middleton.
An updated article from the NH Concord also identified 2 more:
Dick Marple, a former state representative.
State Rep. Susan DeLemus, a Republican from Rochester.
In addition, your latest compilation also identifies Tea Party candidate (and Birtherpoolza member) Tony Dolz of Thousand Oaks, California.
I also appreciated your links and background info on the other kooks trying to run and with wacky disputes at the NH BOE meeting:
Craig Freis , Keith Russell Judd & Joseph Haas.
In regards to Cody Judy...heck, he and Ann Barnhardt and the others with attitudes like theirs are free to "Go Galt" all they want. Heck, I encourage them removing their selfish and whiney little selves from society... they won't be missed.
Posted by: G | November 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM
I can't believe the Onion's AV Club actually considers that Victoria Jackson's crap is a potential comedy act of “conceptual genius”.
The smallest amount of research would show that she's been a full-blown serious grade "complete idiot who actually believes these things and then says them out loud like even she's not really listening to herself” for quite some time now.
This is no Andy Kaufmann routine. VJ is full metal mental case and a really pathetic and annoying one at that.
Even if what she is doing was some attempt at comedic satire instead of just how brainless and unhinged she is, it still would never qualify as "conceptual genius" by any stretch of the term, as it comes across about as funny as a unwelcome bout of leaky diarrhea.
Posted by: G | November 19, 2011 at 11:13 AM
LOL! Patrick, I think you've nailed it with describing Leo's OCCUPY GRAND JURY brain fart as nothing more than "Fantasy Tiddlywinks League 2 - Electric Boogaloo". LMAO!
Also, I don't think it was his following of uneducated conspiracy idiots that is behind Leo's latest tantrum. Heck, those are the only folks that pay attention to him these days!
I suspect that blogger Squeeky Fromme probably deserves a portion of the credit for getting crybaby Leo to shut his comments down to hide away from "non-lawyers" as she's been agressively tackling his nonsense and ripping his DeVattelist and Minor v Happerset lies to shreds for the past few months.
I think he's just trying to avoid getting his ass constantly handed to him and having his little con game laid bare.
Posted by: G | November 19, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Leo the failed lawyer sez,
"From now on, if you want to post here, you must be licensed to practice law. State your real name and the jurisdiction(s) you are licensed in. NO EXCEPTIONS."
So now he has a blog with only his posts.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: GeorgetownJD | November 19, 2011 at 09:22 PM
@G: I think the AV Club's problem was that they assumed (I know) that because she'd been a comedienne, that her claim to fame was acting in comedy troupes, that this was yet another comedy act. I'm sure they didn't think she was serious about it, and would be rightly horrified if (or when) they're informed that yeah, she does believe this crap.
Posted by: Norbrookc | November 20, 2011 at 05:13 AM
"Patrick, I think maybe we should start identifying and tracking Birthers who hold or are running for office in 2012, at both the state and federal level, and see how they fare in next year's election."
G, let me submit Georgia State Rep. Sean Jerguson as birther extraordinaire, who was a sponsor for the state's HB401, Presidential Eligibility Assurance Act in the last session. Jerguson seems to be a de Vattelist. Here he is speaking with none other than Carl Swensson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7DrVird6hQ
Jerguson was also one of the top recipients of federal stimulus dollars (for his gun shop/firing range), in the amount of $755K:
http://projects.propublica.org/recovery/item/20110101/163483
http://projects.propublica.org/recovery/item/20110101/281554
Expect great birtherism from this one starting in January.
Posted by: sunkawakan | November 20, 2011 at 08:17 AM
> "We know where they were born," Vita said of the Republicans.
I have strong doubts these morons even know the names of the GOP candidates' parents, let alone know (in the sense of "have proof of") their citizenship.
I'm used to politicians spouting utter nonsense with a straight face, but this kind of "what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander" can only apply to people who already suffere from severe ODS and birtherism.
Then again, when have birthers ever answered "have you seen GWB's BC?" with anything but "Congress vetted him" (and implying "and they weren't traitors back then")?
Posted by: The Magic M | November 21, 2011 at 07:24 AM
sunkawakan - thanks for the info & links!!!
Posted by: G | November 21, 2011 at 06:53 PM