Dispatches from Birtherstan - 1-2 December 2011

In today's dispatches, we have James Manning's opinion of Herman Cain, which he tries to explain in a way that doesn't seem too self-loathing. "Chris Farrell" seems to be appearing all over birtherdom, and his backstory makes him sound like Lucas Smith 2.0

Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi joins the parade of birthers upset that the Congressional Research Service cited actual facts and case law to refute birthers de Vattelist fantasies. Laurie Roth shows a level of delusion that should result in either committal in a mental institution or an appearance with Alex Jones. Sam Sewell parades his latest attempt at an OMG moment.

Paul Irey thinks there may be problems with his old delusions, but don't worry, he's cooking up some brand new delusions to take their place. The aptly-named John Dummett is upset because Wikipedia won't accept his lies as truth. Miki Booth is in Hawaii sponging off of the unknown Birtherpoolza sugar daddy. World Nut Daily continues to allow openly racist and threatening comments though their censorship.

Leo Donofrio is also upset at the Congressional Research Service, though his whine seems to be more "wahhh, they proved me wrong, therefore there's a conspiracy against me!!" And JB Williams and Lawrence Sellin seem to be having a cat fight about the Republican party.

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16 November - One gets the idea that James Manning doesn't like Herman Cain.

0:34 - "The Tea Party, that they were instrumental, along with Glenn Beck and Fox News, to actually kill the birther movement. Now we as birthers are considered wackjobs, loons, crazies, racist, all of that has been applied to us."

Gee, I can't imagine WHY? Maybe because many of you ARE wackjobs, loons, crazies, and/or racist??

At 1:02 he blames the Koch brothers for hijacking the tea party and diverting the tea party away from birtherism and "Obama's Islamic Faith" (news to me considering the signs seen at some tea party rallies.)

At 1:34 he complains that the birthers can't seem to get a meeting or group together, even admitting his pretend trial was a failure in terms of attendance.

His major complaint about Cain is based on the accusation of women against Cain, Even though Manning doesn't believe the women in question., and that Cain is mostly supported by the tea party. Also that Cain hasn't openly played birther flirty games.

I'm suspecting much of Manning's dislike of Cain is that Manning tends to be self-hating towards himself and other african-americans. Also many of the women making the accusations towards Cain are caucasian, and Manning REALLY has a problem with mixed race relationships.

27 November - "College Student" Chris Farrell states on Facebook his Pest and eFail article was taken down.

"Well, 'The Truth hurts.' My article was already taken down from thepostemail.com. I ain't mad at them though. They were probably served with a court order to take it down. 'Pick-up your weapon and follow me; I am the airborne Infantry!" is the cadence called by the 101st Airborne, the Screaming Eagles. Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, a surgeon in the 101st paid a much higher price for standing for the Truth than having an article scrubbed."

As of 1 December 2011, the article is still up at the Pest and eFail.

He claims to be a journalism student. I'm going to assume with his complete ignorance of fact checking and logic, not to mention his unbridled racism, he's trying to get a job with World Nut Daily.

30 November - Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi has his red nose bent out of shape by the Congressional Research Service's latest report.

"On Nov. 14, Jack Maskell, a legislative attorney with the Congressional Research Service, issued yet another in a series of reports on presidential eligibility that appears aimed at providing members of Congress with talking points to respond to constituents contending that Barack Obama is not a "natural born citizen" within the meaning of Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.

Entitled "Qualifications for President and the 'Natural Born' Citizen Eligibility Requirement," the 50-page report peppered with 253 footnotes reads less like an objectively argued, even-handed discussion of competing legal arguments than a polemic aimed at convincing readers that Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen" qualified to be president."

In other words, "Wahhh, it said something I didn't like!!"

"To resolve these questions, Maskell and the CRS advance the arguments that "native born" is equivalent to "natural born," that English Common Law is determinative of the question, and that being a "U.S. citizen at birth" is equivalent to "natural born citizen."

The end result of Maskell's analysis is that an anchor baby born to two illegal immigrants, or a baby born in "birth tourism" to two foreign national parents and raised outside the United States would both be eligible to be president, provided the person was 35 years old and had spent 14 years as a resident living within the United States before running for president."

That is what 200+ years of case law and US law state, yes.

"Maskell typically states as established fact legal principles that truthfully remain in dispute – for instance, on page 1 of the report, where he asserts that a person born "in" the United States of one or more alien parents is "clearly a U.S. citizen 'at birth' by the 14th Amendment."

In so concluding, Maskell intentionally ignores the "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" qualification within the language of the 14th Amendment that opponents to anchor babies and birth tourism feel invalidates the entire concept that being born in the U.S. is sufficient to being deemed a "U.S. citizen at birth."

You mean pages 13 and 14 of Maskell's report, where Maskell discusses precisely that topic??

Admit it Corsi. You really didn't read it, did you??

"Moreover, even if the 14th Amendment were to establish being born a native to the U.S. is sufficient to being deemed a "U.S. citizen at birth," that does not make a "natural born citizen" equivalent to being a "U.S. citizen at birth."

There's some pretty blatant and open racism here, but yes. a so-called "anchor baby" is, in fact, legally recognized as a natural-born US citizen.

"Similarly, Maskell wants to read English Common Law into the "natural born citizen" requirement of Article 2, Section 1, because under English Common Law a "natural born subject" is anyone born on English soil, a principle known as jus soli – a right conferred by place of birth – rather than jus sanguinis – a right conferred by blood, requiring an inquiry into the citizenship of the parents at the time a child is born.

That English Common Law is applicable to the interpretation of Article 2, Section 1, was advanced by the Supreme Court in dicta – i.e., arguments made by the justices that are not central to the decision in the case, hence arguments that are not considered determinative for the purposes of legal precedent – in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898).

While Maskell accepts the dicta in Wong Kim Ark because he agrees with the argument, he dismisses as dicta the only Supreme Court definition of "natural born citizen" that is on point regarding the meaning of Article 2, Section 1, namely, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 21 Wall. 162 (1874), where the Supreme Court implied "natural born citizens" were those born on U.S. soil to parents who were U.S. citizens at the time the child was born."

Are the birthers simply skipping over the section where CRS covers Minor v. Happersett?? Because I could find it pretty easily.

"Maskell in his pro-Obama advocacy goes so far as to assert the two-citizen requirement would "entail the unique notion that under American jurisprudence parental citizenship or lineage is the determining factor for eligibility to the Presidency for native born U.S. citizens."

In so doing, Maskell failed to acknowledge the concern the founders had when inserting into the Constitution the "natural born citizen" requirement that being a citizen was not sufficient for a person to ascend to the presidency.

Instead, the founders determined eligibility to be president was reduced to a subset of citizens identified as "natural born citizens."

Yes. Which has been defined, over and over again, as someone born with US citizenship, as opposed to someone naturalized as a citizen after birth.

What's striking here is that Corsi spends more time attacking Maskell for not agreeing with what Corsi WANTS the Constitution to say, and almost no time actually trying to disprove any of Maskill's information or evidence. In effect, Corsi is saying "He's wrong because I say he's wrong, so there! Also, he's a big no-good ugly stinky boot who eats his boogers, so NAAH NAAH NAAH !!!!"

And in comments:

"Albert E. Hendershot · Top Commenter · Owner and President at Innovative Portfolio Recovery Inc.
Somebody needs to start "Pimp-Slapping" these people.
Reply · 4 · Like · Follow Post · 7 hours ago"

Oooh, someone's testy.

"Chris Farrell · Top Commenter · New Orleans, Louisiana Steven Feinstein Birthers are getting more and more organized. I personally spoke to Sen. David Vitter ® Louisiana. He said that he will look into the matter. Patriots such as Orly Taitz have filed to prevent the ineligible fraud from getting on the presidential primary ballot in four states and counting. This travesty of justice, this contravention of the constitution shall be righted. Abrogation of the illegal election of an ineligible candidate fraudulently representing himself as a natural-born citizen and forging documents to defend his crime is imminent. The Muslim subversive who has usurped the office of the President of the United States of America shall be prosecuted for his high crime against the highest law of this land, the Constitution of the United States of America. Others complicit in this conspiracy, the most horrendous crime perpetrated against 'We the People' in American history, such as the administrators at the two hospitals where Obama / Soetoro said he was born, the officials at Columbia, Occidental and Harvard Law School, Gov. Abercrombie, and Majority Speaker of the House in New Hampshire, Shawn Jasper, shall be held accountable one way or another. Reply · Like · about an hour ago"

Someone's really quite delusional.

30 November - At he Pest and eFail, Laurie Roth gets all tinfoil hatty.

"This is a critical step over the ‘stuck on stupid’ line to the traitorous and treasonous line by our Senate this week. They voted for our Military to detain American citizens as long as they want to, without charges, representation or trial…just because they are suspected of being a terrorist. Americans could be gathered up and placed at GITMO for a ‘mystery’ terrorist reason decided by the military front and directed by Obama or any other power-hungry President. It is all kosher and approved by the Senate and putative President now. Naturally, Obama is threatening a veto; of course that hits the airwaves to soften this traitorous ruling against the American people."

So, let me get this straight. If Obama doesn't veto this bill, then it's proof that Obama plans to become a dictator with sovereign rule over the United States. And if Obama DOES veto this bill, then it's proof that Obama plans to become a dictator with sovereign rule over the United States.

Is that about it??

"Obama can’t on the surface dare act like he would want such a ruling as voted in by the Senate, but that is exactly what he has planned for and wants. For a short while he must be the good cop and the Senate must be the bad cop for his controlling scheme."

Wow. Catch 22 in conspiracyville.

"Obama and Bush before him started ripping the words ‘Islamic terrorist’ from our mouths. That was rude and CAIR and other Muslim radical groups of ‘representation’ were most angry about us attaching Islam to the war on terror. This was even though 99.9% of all the torture, threats and murders were being done by Muslims."

You mean Muslim terrorists like Timothy McVeigh, Jared Loughner, James von Brunn, Anders Breivik, Eric Rudolph, James Kopp, Paul Jennings Hill, Scott Roeder, Michael F. Griffin, Peter James Knight, Shelley Shannon, John Salvi, Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins, Paul Ross Evans, Clayton Waagner, Iron Guard, Lăncieri, Lord's Resistance Army, Army of God, Hutaree, The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, Defensive Action, The Freemen Community, Aryan Nations, Aryan Republican Army, Phineas Priesthood, Jerry R. Kane Jr., Joseph T. Kane, Schaeffer Cox, Michael Bray, David Leach, Donald Spitz, Fritz Springmeier, Gordon Kahl, among others??

"Perhaps this sounds ‘tin helmet’ to you, but don’t you find it interesting and even a bit frightening that Obama put forth an Executive Order to create all kinds of FEMA camps?"

It sounds more like a full body tinfoil suit, complete with tinfoil gimp mask.

"I’m not for a violent uprising or any criminal behavior, but it is time for our patriotic and Constitutional revolution to start screaming. Let us get our country back in the right manner and peacefully. Oh, yeah…..I’m glad millions upon millions of us have our loaded guns at home. Just a little thought for those who may want to turn on their own in the middle of the night."

Funny, it sounds like you're all for a violent uprising and criminal behavior….

30 November - I see unlicensed pastoral "therapist" Sam Sewell is still being a steady drip. He really needs to have a urologist check him out.

Anyway, he posts his latest attempt at predicting an "OMG" moment.

"The Roberts Court has signaled, in a very subtle manner, of course, that it intends to address the issues about which Obama critics have been screaming to high heaven. A ruling against Obama on any one of these important issues could potentially cripple the Administration. Such a thing would be long overdue.

First, there is ObamaCare, which violates the Constitutional principle barring the federal government from forcing citizens to purchase something. And no, this is not the same thing as states requiring drivers to purchase car insurance, as some of the intellectually-impaired claim. The Constitution limits FEDERAL government, not state governments, from such things, and further, not everyone has to drive, and thus, a citizen could opt not to purchase car insurance by simply deciding not to drive a vehicle. In the ObamaCare world, however, no citizen can 'opt out.'

Second, sources state that the Roberts court has quietly accepted information concerning discrepancies in Obama's history that raise serious questions about his eligibility for the office of President. The charge goes far beyond the birth certificate issue. This information involves possible fraudulent use of a Social Security number in Connecticut, while Obama was a high school student in Hawaii, double citizenship, natural born…and others. "

Any day now……

I suspect the "sources" Sewell was listening to was his bowl of corn flakes, or the voices in his head.

1 December - "Reality Check" of Reality Check Radio posts the highlights of an interesting conversation with Paul Irey.

The reason RC contacted him was to see if Irey was willing to debate John Woodman on a future show.

"John Woodman devoted an entire chapter to Mr. Irey’s claims and found them to be easily refuted. John Woodman has publicly challenged Paul Irey to debate him but Mr. Irey has refused. I thought I would offer a fair forum to them where a full two hours could be devoted to a debate but unfortunately Mr. Irey still refuses. Mr. Irey was kind enough to be a guest on my show earlier this year and I had hoped he would consider a return for what could be an interesting evening. "

What's interesting is that Irey acknowledges that Woodman did find major flaws in Irey's work.

"Irey concedes that John Woodman has found some major flaws in his original analysis. Namely, Woodman demonstrated that many of the letters that Irey chose to blow up for comparison are from a vertical section of the document where it appears that the copier or scanner caused a distortion. Irey concedes that Woodman is correct."

And to give Irey credit:

"Irey also said that he has sent an email to Orly Taitz, Jerome Corsi, Doug Vogt, and others advising them of the problems with his analysis and asking them not to use it. I was startled to hear this and told Mr. Irey I had never seen a single retraction printed anywhere. I told him that this hasn’t stopped Taitz from including it with her motions in several court cases and in her challenge presented to the Ballot Law Commission in New Hampshire last month."

So Irey himself has asked the birtherstani not to use parts of his claim because the results were flawed, and they refuse to?? Almost like, oh, I dunno, they don't really care about the facts or anything else now, eh?

Then again, Irey doesn't seem overly concerned about his admittedly flawed analysis.

" Irey offered two explanations why he was not that concerned to have his flawed analysis submitted as evidence. First he says he is still sure the birth certificate is forged because a source he will not name from the Secret Service told him in 2008 that Obama was not born in Hawaii. Second, he is working on a new analysis that will be published soon (one would assume in World Net Daily) that will be “irrefutable”. He also said it didn’t matter because no judge had read them anyway. I suspect Irey is correct that no judge has ever really read his gobbledygook but no real expert would dare let work that he would not endorse be filed in any court."

That's because Irey isn't writing for the courts, he's writing for fellow conspiracy nuts and the easily gullible.

"I asked Mr. Irey if he was concerned that two administrations in Hawaii had vouched for the validity of both the 2008 COLB and the 2011 long form birth certificate and that Dr. Fukino, Loretta Fuddy, and Alvin Onaka had all staked their professional reputations on those documents. Irey replied that “Fuddy and Onaka would both be going to jail” for their complicity in the forgery. I told him that I would bet him $500 that neither of them would go to jail by a date one year from our conversation. Irey would not take the bet. "

What a surprise.

RC ends with:

"I am convinced that Paul Irey is sincere in his beliefs. He might even be a pleasant guy to meet but he lives in a different world than most of us. He trusts no one and wakes up every day sure that unknown sinister forces are controlling every aspect of government and the media. Like most conspiracy theorists he always invokes the shadowy “they” to toss out mountains of evidence for which he has no explanation. For that I pity him. However, that in no way excuses the fact that he has allowed his so-called “evidence” that he knows is flawed to be used by charlatans like Orly Taitz and Jerome Corsi to convince their gullible followers and readers that the President is a liar."

So basically Irey is saying facts and logic and the truth doesn't matter to him, his mind is made up, right?

1 December - The Pest and eFail publishes a letter from John Dummett whining that Wikipedia won't accept the de Vattelist interpretation of "Natural Born Citizen"

"Maskell’s memos and most recent report seem to imply that Obama is eligible by virtue of simply having been born on U.S. soil. However, there remain questions as to whether or not Obama was born anywhere in the United States, as no city or town has claimed him as its own."

Well, except for Honolulu, Hawaii.

Dummett received the following response after his submission was removed:

Hi. The Law of Nations and Minor v. Happersett have been discussed at length in connection with the subject of natural-born citizenship, and the consensus is that these materials are not sufficiently relevant to give them significant treatment in this article. Please carefully read the article’s talk page before trying to add this material back into the article.

Which, of course, the birthers won't do because their minds are made up.

1 December - And it looks like Miki Booth has found an excuse to spend December in Hawaii rather than Oklahoma.

"The Birther Summit has sent Miki Booth back to Hawaii to continue the investigative work it has been conducting, and to support the continued efforts of Orly Taitz. "

Gee, Birtherpoolza's sugar daddy must have deep pockets, or Haskins and Booth are misusing donations.

And I'm wondering if Booth's continued presence in Hawaii has something to do with Haskins' mysterious return trip there.

1 December - Charming comments that make it past World Nut Daily's censorship.

"Buck Rogers · Top Commenter · Knoxville, Tennessee * My Challenge still stands, as a sworn defender of the Constitution, I have challenged the usurper Barry Soetoro to a bare-knuckle fight to the death, mine or his, as I see him to be an enemy of the Republic that I took the oath to defend from any and all enemies both foreign and domestic. All Americans should join in this fight against the usurper Barry Soetoro and the moozlims that have attacked the United States and are attempting to destroy our way of life here in America. I say that the blood of moozlims will flow freely wherever they stand against Our God or Our Republic. Buck Rogers for President, it's a write-in… SEMPER FI Reply · 4 · Like · Follow Post · 4 hours ago"

And today's visit from the Secret Service goes to….

"Luis D Rey Gutierrez · Top Commenter · Colegio caldas
Hey Tim Shea,
You are a TRUE IDIOT AND A NAIVE ONE for being blind not to see what this 3/5 of a man has been doing to us all !!
It's not that we don't like THIS LIAR, it's for what he is:
AN USURPER, IMPOSTOR, COMMUNIST AND EVEN WORSE, HE IS A CLOSETED RADICAL MUSLIM whose main goal is to destroy our way of living since that is what ISLAM is all about !!
This SICKO PRESIDENT has to be defeated in the general elections otherwise, even YOU is going to regret it !!
Reply · 2 · Like · Follow Post · 5 hours ago"

"3/5 of a man"?? Racist much??

"Buck Rogers · Top Commenter · Knoxville, Tennessee America must remove Barry Soetoro the Indonesian moozlim… REMOVE HIM FROM OUR COUNTRY… DO NOT BE FOOLED, HE IS moozlim… THESE ARE YOUR HAPPY, LOVING, PEACEFUL moozlims… They infiltrate with deception… They infiltrate to get close for the KILL… It's in their BOOK (koran)… moehamed was a pedophile rapist islam is the edict of the DEVIL…allah is SATAN… And he wants to inflict it on the America Reply · Like · Follow Post · 4 hours ago"

Unhinged much?

Oh look, it's "Chris Farrell, College Student" again:

"Chris Farrell · Top Commenter · New Orleans, Louisiana
Adrien Nash If he was born in the British Protectorate of Kenya, and according to the maternal 'grandmother' there in 1961 he was, then his original birth certificate in the British Protectorate of Kenya would necessarily have been an official document in the British Empire, Non? World Net Daily had reported on the present day government of Kenya authorities report that the files where Barack's birth certificate should have been were broken into. Obama's Muslim Brotherhood roots run deep. No doubt some Muslim Brotherhood connections in Kenya took care of his little documentation problem. I put "grandmother" in quotations because Ann Dunham may have simply chosen the "Kenyan" for his superior qualifications as a "baby-daddy" as opposed to any of her other 'frequent-flyers'; he may not have been the biological father at all.
Reply · Like · 2 hours ago

"Chris Farrell · Top Commenter · New Orleans, Louisiana Tim Shea "Make up lies about his past" You've got to be kidding! What do you know about his past. We know that his mother posed for porn. Those pictures have been found. We know that she was a promiscuous tramp, a 'bar-fly', in Honolulu. We know that she was pregnant. We do not know who impregnated her. We know that she chose one of her frequent-flyers -who appeared to have a future since he pursued higher education - as her 'baby-daddy' of choice. We know that Barack Hussein Obama's grandmother in the British Protectorate of Kenya maintained that she was present at his birth. We know that the first phone call he made after swearing in the second time as president was to a known terrorist connected with Hamas. We know that his adoptive father from Indonesia was a Muslim and he attended Muslim madras schools for 6-8 of his yo…ing formative years. We know that there is only one book in a madras: the Koran. We know that Barry prays in Arabic. We know that he has called Islam 'one of the worlds great religions.' We know that he has provided forged documents to prove his eligibility to hold the office of POTUSA. We know that his social security numbers (plural) are fraudulent. We know that the first piece of legislation he signed was to prevent anyone from looking into ANY of his records. We know that three American institutions of higher learning refuse to release ANY records of Barry's attendance or enrollment in their schools. We know that illegally acting as commander-in-chief he had the body of Osama bin Laden ceremonially washed and wrapped in fine lined while Koranic verses were read over the corpse as it was gently lowered into the salty brine from a United States Naval vessel. I don't know if the flag had been ordered to half-mast or if the band played or not. Educate yourself. Get off the idolization of your beloved Barry. Barack Hussein Obama is a criminal in the commission of the greatest crime perpetrated against the American people in our history. He is nothing less than a 'Manchurian' Muslim from Mombasa who has illegally usurped the office of president of the United States of America and military rank of commander-in-chief. He should be prosecuted and incarcerated if not lined up against a wall and shot as an enemy insurgent; a spy."

Make that two visits.

1 December - Leo Donofrio is also annoyed at Congressional Research Service. Because, well, they did research that showed the Paraclete was talking out his rear.

"The timing of the memo’s appearance is alarming. I have been saying for quite awhile now that Obama doesn’t really have to worry about the natural-born issue coming back to haunt him in court unless he attempts to suspend the Constitution. I know that sounds paranoid. "

Only because it is.

"If my fears don’t come to pass, I will gladly wear the tin foil hat of shame."

Too late.

"If Obama attempts to suspend the US Constitution and/or declare martial law and/or suspend the 2012 election… chances of the natural-born citizen issue finding its way to the Supreme Court on the merits increase exponentially."

Seen anymore black helicopters of late Donofrio??

1 December - Since Chris Farrell "College Student" has been showing up in birtherstan more and more of late, I figured I'd take a quick look at his Facebook page.

"About Chris

I'm gonna make 50 on the 2nd of May. Born again on the Island of St. Croix in 1982 so I am a recovering Roman Catholic. I deserted from La Legion Etrangere in 2003 and so can not travel much as I have an interpol warrant for my arrest. I speak a few different languages and can read the New Testament of the Lord Jesus Christ in the original Koine dialect of the ancient Greek with helps. I worked on the SS Independence sailing the Hawaiin Islands…ua may ke ia o ka aina i ka pono. I tried the deep sea fishing off of the Aleutian Islands,(Dutch Harbor), but could not hack it. Presently attending a local community college in an effort to obtain an associates degree in journalism. I look forward to Heaven."

I detect a strong, strong Lucas Smith / CEL3 vibe off this guy. In other words, I suspect he's a bullshit artist and scammer at best, or completely delusional at worse.

Oh, and I checked. As a rule of thumb the French Foreign Legion doesn't spend much time or effort hunting down deserters. The only time they tend to get cranky about deserters is if the person deserts with a weapon. If they're caught, they get 40 days in the stockade while their separation is processed (again, unless they take their weapon with them) During wartime or if the person deserts from a war zone, they face up to two years in a French prison.

Assuming his story about being in the French Foreign Legion isn't a load of bovine byproducts, it's likely he might have a warrant out in France or in French-controlled areas. The only way I can see that Interpol might be involved is if a weapon was involved - and if he had such a warrant out, well, he can get arrested for it in the United States just as easily as anywhere else.

Personally though, I suspect he's full of it.

1 December - Fresh from the failure of his "Veterans against the Constitution" rally on 11 November, JB Williams tries the "It doesn't matter who we vote for, as long as they're Republican" tact.

"Who cares who wins the Republican primary for the 2012 election cycle? Any of the Republican candidates will be better than Obama and yet, none of them will be the solution to our problems. So, who cares who wins the primary? Whoever it is, every American should vote for them next November, no matter who wins the primary.

Why should we waste another minute or another penny on the Republican primaries, seriously? It makes no difference which one of the current candidates wins. Let’s just all agree to vote for the Republican winner next November and move on.

There! Now, can we focus on much more important things?"

Looks like someone may be off Lawrence Sellin's holiday card list now.

"Daffy Duck could defeat Obama in 2012, unless Americans remain divided by the lack-luster pool of Republican candidates who can’t get the job done either, in which case, they deserve to live under the boot of Obommunism.

Just agree to unify behind the anti-Obama candidate in November 2012 and that issue is handled. "

Yep, very much off of Sellin's card list.

"Face it – no single individual can solve this nation’s challenges. It will take millions of people moving in the same direction at the same time to alter the course of history."

Says the man who, after months of advertising, got about 50-75 people to his rally.

"Unlike the mindless misfits of the political left which marches in lockstep because there isn’t an original thought in the lot, we are all independent thinkers."

Funny how you "independent thinkers" keep repeating the same stuff over and over and over again, irregardless of facts or evidence.

"If you bleed red, white and blue and are motivated to do something right, you simply need to do something that actually matters.

There are no sidelines. There is no place to sit this one out. Each American patriot is either an active part of the solution, or they are by default, part of the problem. Each individual must choose, but they must choose now."

Wow. For JB WIlliams, that almost counts as a mild threat.

2 December - And the day after JB Williams tells the birtherstani to please vote for ANY Republican, Lawrence Sellin uses the same blog (i.e. the Pest and eFail), to demand the birtherstani boycott the GOP and not vote for any Republican.

"Republican leaders and elected officials maintain a protective shield of silence and disinformation about Obama’s personal history, his Constitutionally illegal Presidency, his crimes, and his anti-American and reprehensible behavior, to hide their own complicity in the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people"

Translation - "Wahhh! They haven't gotten rid of the scary black man!!"

"To counter that fact, the Republican leaders, together with their allies in the Democratic Party and the mainstream media, are flooding the airwaves and the internet with disinformation about the Presidential requirements contained in Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the Constitution.

They do so to sow uncertainty and deliberately mislead the American people about its meaning in order to amend the Constitution by political fiat and eternally hide their own criminal involvement in election fraud.

The latest episode of this ongoing official deception is the publication by the Congressional Research Office of yet another politically-motivated screed designed specifically to provide talking points (lies) for politicians to confuse voters about the true meaning of Article II, Section I, Clause 5."

There is a group that is deliberately trying to sow uncertainty and mislead the American people about the Constitution and what it says and means.

They're called "birthers", particularly the de Vattel worshippers.

"Many patriotic Americans have criticized my argument, stating that the most pressing issue is to remove Barack Obama from office."

Ah, did we get into an email fight with JB Williams??

"The American people can mount a credible threat against the Republican establishment by leveraging our most potent weapon, our vote, and withholding it until they address Obama’s illegal Presidency and his crimes both before and after occupying the Oval Office.

If we can no longer persuade the Republican leadership to respect us and our opinions, then fear will do."

"….then fear will do".

O RLY??? Just a bit threaty now are we???

Oh, and looky at the comments, starting with Thomas MacLeran aka "One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet" himself.

(Bold face mine)

"OPOVV says:
Friday, December 2, 2011 at 1:44 PM
I don’t believe our next vote will amount to a hill of beans.
I believe that the last Presidential election was a farce, the last Congressional elections the same: just look at the results. Not one stood up for the Constitution and questioned Obama’s eligibility. We thought Allen West was the man, but he fell in line with all of the others.
It doesn’t seem to bother a lot of our fellow citizens from denying other citizens their Constitutional rights.
I say, a ballot or a bullet, whatever works."

"meyerlm says:
Friday, December 2, 2011 at 10:30 AM
SIR: As a True Citizen,Soverign, ex U.S. Navy and one who has taken and fully intends to continue to “Uphold, Protect and Defend the Constitution”~I am Compeled to ask this Question: “Would, you SIR; CONSIDER Running as a Candidate for the Presidency of The United States of America??” OR, would yourself and other Military “Command-Grade Officers” consider a “Patriotic Coallotion” to RID our Replblic of the VERMIN that is Occupying the “People’s House?”"

And RacerJim steps back from crusing sex forums to reply.

"RacerJim says:
Friday, December 2, 2011 at 12:42 PM
@meyerim…
As a Natural Born Citizen, Patriot, ex U.S. Army Vietnam Veteran and one who, just like you, has also taken and fully intends to continue to “Uphold, Protect and Defend the Constitution ~ I am Duty Bound to ask this Question: “You wouldn’t, by any s-t-r-e-t-c-h of the imagination, be suggesting that we Patriotic Veterans consider effecting a military coup to ERRADICATE the VERMIN currently occupying the residence of “WE THE PEOPLE…”, would you? :-)
Lock-n-Load!
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ex U.S. Army
Vietnam Veteran"

meyerlm and RacerJim seems to be hoping for a Secret Service visit of their very own.

Comments

[Greg Brown]

Patrick, you always do good work, but your rejoinder here is one of your very best. Let us all look back on the "Muslims," who have tried to destroy the United States:

"You mean Muslim terrorists like Timothy McVeigh, Jared Loughner, James von Brunn, Anders Breivik, Eric Rudolph, James Kopp, Paul Jennings Hill, Scott Roeder, Michael F. Griffin, Peter James Knight, Shelley Shannon, John Salvi, Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins, Paul Ross Evans, Clayton Waagner, Iron Guard, Lăncieri, Lord's Resistance Army, Army of God, Hutaree, The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, Defensive Action, The Freemen Community, Aryan Nations, Aryan Republican Army, Phineas Priesthood, Jerry R. Kane Jr., Joseph T. Kane, Schaeffer Cox, Michael Bray, David Leach, Donald Spitz, Fritz Springmeier, Gordon Kahl, among others??"

Also, "college student" Chris Farrell, looks like he is shoveling it, as I was once accused, and rightly so, by a professor in my undergrad days, "with a golden shovel."

Great work, Pat. Keep it up.

[G]

I agree with everything Greg Brown said. Kudos as always Patrick for your work.

Is it just me, or are we seeing yet another uptick in Birther rants deserving of Secret Service monitoring?

And this crazed Chris Farrell that has popped up all of a sudden and is crapping his crazy everywhere... definite signs there of someone on the verge of snapping.

[Bob]

"are we seeing yet another uptick"

I've noticed that too. I see a lot of veiled and not-so-veiled threats on WND and Gatewaypundit to police officers, state and federal law enforcement officers, and members of the military who might choose to remain on the side of the law and not join the Birthers.

I believe they're looking at the sad field of Republican candidates and getting desperate and frustrated. On top of that, mainstream Republicans are ignoring them with their support of Romney. Their leaders have utterly failed them.

[G]

Bob, this has certainly been one of my concerns ever since the initial rise of the PUMA and then Birther movements.

In some ways, the delusions of Birtherims are a double-edged sword:

It is very annoying to deal with all the lies, crazy conspiracy claims and endless frivolous lawsuits and other attempts they endlessly waste time on to try to magically erase an election result they simply can not come to terms with.

However, these futile and vapid efforts are merely tilting at windmills, when it all comes down to it. As there is no factual or real basis behind their claims, nothing will ever come of them...other than a huge waste of time, money and endless propaganda.

Then again, at least they are wasting their time and money on such fools errands and that such inane distractions fill them with a continuing sense of false hope.

The more concerning point is what happens to such unhinged and unreasonable individuals when they finally run out of useless exercises and they have no more frivolous lawsuits, fantasy grand juries, angry letter writing campaigns, legislative failures and pathetic mini-gatherings to desperately cling onto to maintain their delusions?

A reasonable person would finally go through the accepting stage of grief and just move one with their life.

However, very few of these die-hard deadenders appear to have any shred of "reasonable" left...and I don't know if they can recover. Such angry and unstable folks are more prone to snap and feel that they have nothing to lose and no other recourse than to cross the line into taking actions that attempt to harm others...

THIS is why they deserve constant monitoring, as they are really ticking time-bombs and sooner or later some of them are going to go off...

[The Magic M]

> Namely, Woodman demonstrated that many of the letters that Irey chose to blow up for comparison are from a vertical section of the document where it appears that the copier or scanner caused a distortion. Irey concedes that Woodman is correct.

I told him this time and again over at WND. He refused to acknowledge it and, after some time of defending the undefendable, resorted to a patronizing tone, then the usual goalpost moving ("so you think Obama is a good President?") and finally silence.

Very telling that it took public pressure (John Woodman's book) to finally admit these flaws. Intellectual honesty looks different to me.

[Gary Miller]

This Chris Farrell is a birther to keep an eye on. A real up-and-comer. He and Butterdezillion would be a match made in heaven.

[G]

On the NH ballot stuff, one of the reasonable NH state Reps on the Dem side made the innocent mistake of replying to one of KBOA's insane rants on the topic and trying to reasonbly correct the record.

So she responded in her typical obsessive stalker fashion and not only ranted back, but also has made him "part of the conspiracy" and included him in 2 of her video rants:

http://www.timothyhorrigan.com/videos/kenyanbornobamacorn.111125.html

I totally feel for the guy. He had no idea how crazy and beyond reason that Birthers are.

[SueDB]

"Daffy Duck could defeat Obama in 2012"

I didn't know that Daffy
Duck was a republican. It seems there are several ducks and one Daisy Duck.

[SueDB]

""Perhaps this sounds ‘tin helmet’ to you, but don’t you find it interesting and even a bit frightening that Obama put forth an Executive Order to create all kinds of FEMA camps?"

Just like Truman, Ike, Kennedy, Johnson, didn't get serious until the Nixon, then Ford fucked it up and Carter & Ronnie Rayguns had to straighten it out. then G Bush, then the Clintons kept it going. Then GW Bush and it went into high budget and high gear. All these camps were renovated under GW Bush (George II)

Birthers are such morons...