Dispatches from Birtherstan - 10-11 January 2012

In today's dispatches, more on the Hendershot dismissal. The birthers aren't done with New Hampshire. Cody Judy gives a big ol' raised middle finger to military families. Dr. Orly gets another trip to Hawaii.

The birthers aren't done with Alabama either, with one case warmed over Dr. Orly, and the other bound and determined to really piss off the judge. A birtherstani gets something almost kinda sorta like something that almost came close to a clue once, and suggests that Dr. Orly might not be helping their cause very well.

Dr. Orly goes apedump at any birther who DARES QUESTION HER, while Philip Berg smells blood in the water. Thomas MacLeran gives a unique spin to the concept of "civil rights". Not to mention US History. The Pest and eFail tries to rewrite the entire history of the US legal system, while one of their repeat offenders gets all threatening with the Georgia legal system.

Arizona has Yet Another Birther Bill. And sad news about one of Dr. Orly's plaintiffs.

I have noticed $12 more in tip jar donations from my readers. Thank you for your kind thoughts and generosity. As I said, it's a very humbling experience to know one's words are valued in such a way.

9 January - Copy of Judge Helen Shores Lee's dismissal order in the Hendershot case.

(PDF here)

"The Plaintiff has not and cannot cited this Court to an Alabama statute that “specially and specifically” grants this Court subject matter jurisdiction to determine whether the President of the United States is a “Natural Born Citizen” or is otherwise eligible to hold the office of President. As a consequence, in the absence of a statute “specially and specifically” granting this Court subject matter jurisdiction to entertain the Plaintiff’s claims, this action must be dismissed.

While there are several other grounds on which this Court could dismiss the present action, the absence of subject matter jurisdiction is obviously sufficient. See Crutcher v. Williams, 12 So.3d 631, 635 (Ala. 2008) (“A court is obligated to vigilantly protect against deciding cases over which it has no jurisdiction….”).

The present action is hereby DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE. Costs taxed as paid.

DONE this 9th day of January, 2012.
/s/ HELEN SHORES LEE
CIRCUIT JUDGE"

9 January - The New Hampshire Birther Ballot Jihad is far from over.

"Although he doesn’t call himself a “birther,” Mr. Rappaport doesn’t believe the validity of the president’s birth certificate.

“If I were asked to make a forgery, I could do a better job,” Mr. Rappaport said. “I don’t consider that a birth certificate at all.”

Don't you just love the people who say "I'm not a birther" and then parrot back all the birther talking points??

It's like the people who say "I'm not a racist" just before they say something really racist.

"Although the GOP legislators appear to have lost their argument for removing Mr. Obama from the primary ballot, Mr. Rappaport said he intends to pursue their quest through the general election."

Well of course they will.

And they'll fail there as well.

9 January - Cody Judy is flying the "Blut und Boden" flag, and screw military families who don't like it!!!

"I have always been of the frame of mind that the ‘natural born citizen’ could also be diluted most simply by a natural born citizen having a child in a foreign land.

This recognition has materialized in heated opposition of military men and women having children outside the United States. However, though the fires rage in insult, there is no escaping the real fact that the child born in a foreign land will always recall naturally the place of first combustion with natural fondness.

In my view, the extremely rare case of a military child becoming President is trumped by the two-prong test of being born in the United States to Citizen Parents. This protects the seat of the Commander-In-Chief within the Constitution and every military person swears an oath to the Constitution. I simply believe if a mother serving in a foreign land desired to secure the rarest odds or likelihood their child was a future president, 1 in 10,000,000, that leave would be afforded to deliver within the United States, or as more likely would be the case, the parents not be unsatisfied with the child being a Congressmen, that has much improved odds."

So in other words "If you're born while your parents are serving overseas, then you're a second class citizen, too bad, so sad. That's what you get for having the bad taste to be born on some foreign soil."

What a piece of work.

9 January - And in the third Alabama Birther Ballot Jihad case, Thompson v Kennedy, we have the motion for preliminary injunction.

(Scribd link here)

The funny thing is he starts with an affidavit where he states:

"I have personal knowledge of the facts stated in this Affidavit, and, if called as a witness, I could testify competently to them."

The problem is the "facts" he claims to have "personal knowledge of" is Leo Donofrio's interpretation of Minor v Happersett, Douglas Vogt's claim the long form was a forgery, Greg Hollister and Linda Jordan's violations of federal law, and "additional definitive proof of misrepresentation, evidence of fraud, identity theft, and withholding evidence from the Citizens of the State of Alabama which will be presented in Court."

Somehow I don't think that's what's usually meant by "personal knowledge of the facts".

The actual case itself is a mishmash of Dr. Orly's claims and other birther lawsuits. Nothing particularly new or novel.

9 January - One gets the feeling that Judge Nishimura is toying a bit with Dr. Orly. (malware and redirect warning)

"JUDGE RHONDA NISHIMURA IN HI GRANTED MY MOTION TO EXPEDITE THE HEARING ON RECIPROCAL SUBPOENA ENFORCEMENT. NEW HEARING IS THIS FRIDAY, JANUARY 13, 10:30AM. I WILL BE FLYING TO HI FOR THE 5TH TIME!
Posted on | January 9, 2012"

Aww. She's helping you earn more frequent flier miles!

"I just got off the phone with judge’s legal assistant Jamie, she stated that my motion was granted by judge Nishimura and the new hearing will be this Friday at 10:30 am. This is a positive aspect."

Yes, I'm positive you're going to be upset at the result.

"The negative aspect, is the fact, that this will be the fifth time I will be flying to HI to a hearing."

Oh shucky darn?

"It is depleting all the donations. I hate to ask, but donations and frequent flier miles will come very handy. This is a very tough fight. You know the resources, that might opponent has, but with your help we are moving along. Thank you for your support ."

"You be coming on, worthless cavity creeps! The PayPal button, it not be kicking itself!!"

9 January - Harold Sorensen digs himself deeper, filing a "motion of recusal" against Judge Helen Shores Lee.

(Scribd link here)

"Comes now, Harold Sorensen, Plaintiff in the above captioned cause, respectively believes that Circuit Helen Shores Lee recuse herself from this case on the following grounds:

Due to racial bias, lack of judicial discretion as well as lack of knowledge of the U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 which states: "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the OffIce of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." Additionally, Judge Lee has violated her oath of office under the Alabama Constitution, Article XV, Oath of Office: Section 1. All members of the general assembly, and all officers, executive and judicial, before they enter upon the execution of the duties of their respective offices, shall take the following oath or affirmation, to wit:

"I, ………. , solemnly swear (or ajJlrm, as the case may be) that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Alabama, so long as I continue a citizen thereof; and that I will faithfully and honestly discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter, to the best of my ability. So help me God"

So let's see. He just called the judge hearing his case a racist, ignorant of the law and the Constitution, and a traitor. Does that sound about right??

And I will note that the first person who claimed the judge might be racist due to being African-American was Dr. Orly, before the case was dismissed.

9 January - Tommy Thompson also files a motion for injunction in Alabama.

(Scribd link here)

It's a duplicate of Harold Sorensen's motion, with the plaintiff's names changed.

I really hope the Alabama Democratic Party goes after attorneys fees.

9 January - And just in case you were curious about Harold Sorensen's opinion of the legal system, well, he's described as the "Major General" and JAILer-In-Chief of the Alabama chapter of JAIL for Judges.

And what is JAIL for Judges??

"The Special Grand Jury (SGJ) under J.A.I.L., made up of the people, is not a part of government whatsoever, and has no oversight by government.

In creating a means by which the people would be able to implement their inherent power over government, Ron realized that he would have to rely on the grand jury concept-- one that is established constitutionally and given statewide operation. He knew that the so-called county "grand juries" governed by statute are not autonomous bodies, but an operation by government as our current county grand jury system is in California. In California there does not now exist a grand jury of the people that operates autonomously.

The grand jury created for J.A.I.L. would not be any part of government, nor could it be if the people were to exercise their inherent power to "alter or reform" government as they are constitutionally authorized to do. Government, being the object of grand jury power, cannot be in control of it for obvious reasons. Therefore, the operation of J.A.I.L. by a grand jury cannot be connected with government whatsoever. Under J.A.I.L., the statewide Special Grand Jury is not part of, nor a branch of, nor associated with, government of any kind. It is an autonomous body of citizens, i.e., the people."

Why does this sound like the Fantasy Tiddlywinks League??

9 January - At Birther Report, one of the birtherstani gets a glimmering that maybe, just maybe, Dr. Orly isn't exactly helping their jihad…..

"Not only do I try to keep up with all of the different efforts, I also follow all the lawsuits filed by Dr. Orly Taitz, and other than the fact that it often looks like she is more concerned with promoting Orly Taitz than she is with the very important task at hand for the American people, I tend to look past that, because she does bring a lot of attention to the fraud that has been committed, and I commend her for that.

However, there is something I can no longer look past, because it is something that speaks to character, and in this huge battle, I believe keeping ourselves above board and honest to be of the utmost importance."

Considering how alien concepts like "honesty" are to a birther, that's rather surprising.

"Recently, Dr. Taitz has been stating on her website and elsewhere that Georgia Judge Michael Malihi has issued subpoenas related to her Georgia case, and she has even posted images of the subpoenas. Does she really think that people are that gullible?"

Yes, yes she does.

"She has done nothing but download pre-signed subpoena forms from the Georgia OSAH website (www.osah.ga.gov) that are made available to attorneys involved in cases there. Even nobodies like I know that a Georgia Administrative Court doesn't have the power to subpoena officials from other states! So, how dishonest is it for Orly to represent that Judge Malihi doesn't understand that simple legal principle, and that he is issuing these subpoenas? Even if he did have that power, it would be a lie that his court issued the “subpoenas” that Orly is posting and gloating about. Downloading blank forms and filling them out is not the same as a judge-issued subpoena!"

What? You're actually suspecting that Dr. Orly lies though her teeth??? Shock! Amazement!!

"Here is my why I am writing to you. It has been difficult enough for us to be heard on the facts that we know are true—and when one of the “names” in the movement is so publicly dishonest, it just discredits everything that the movement has worked so hard to accomplish. "

Oh, don't worry. Dr. Kate, Philip Berg, Sharon Rondeau, James Manning, Charles Kerchner, Greg Hollister, Terry Lakin, Dean Haskins, Andy Martin, Leo Donofrio, Mario Apuzo, Stephen Pidgeon, Walter Fitzpatick, Carl Swensson, Lucas Smith, Cody Judy, Ron Polland, and many, many, many other birthers have been just as dishonest and done their part to discredit your movement as well.

"It also causes me to wonder what else Dr. Taitz has not been honest about! Is she just spreading lies hoping that it will cause people to donate more money to her?"

DING DING DING DING!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

"Just a little bit of research showed me that Mr. and Mrs. Orly live in a $3 million home in Laguna Niguel, CA. It looks like they already have a lot more money than most of us do, but she's the most vocal in the entire movement with the money-begging."

Funny, the debunkers have been pointing that out about your "lady liberty" for a few years now.

"Does she occasionally smear the good names and efforts of others in the movement as a way to divert possible donations away from them and to her, or is it just that, in her mind, she must be the only one in the spotlight?"

YES! YES, WE ARE ACTUALLY DETECTING A SOMETHING CLOSE TO AN ACTUAL CLUE!!!!

"I can't imagine that most donations amount to all that much—they certainly cannot be worth enough for someone to forfeit their honor and integrity. But that's what I tend to see from Dr. Taitz."

Oh come on. Open your eyes a bit more, and you'll see that from almost every other big name birther out there!!

"I know this has been a long note, and that wasn't my intention, but here is the real question I want to ask you. Why aren't all the good people who are so active in this movement publicly denouncing these tactics?"

Because the ones that aren't completely blinded by hatred and bigotry are busy trying to do the exact same thing to the other birthers.

"I'm sure they all know that Orly has never gotten a subpoena issued from Judge Malihi. If they all know these are lies, why aren't they publicly condemning the deception?"

Because facts and the truth always take a back seat to lies and hatred about Obama. That's life on the streets of birtherstan.

And in comments:

"Anonymous said…[Reply]

First off I commend ORYR for printing the letter. When "Obots" have pointed out the exact same things here, they've been attacked and laughed at. If there is a movement, Orly has brought it to the laughable lever. No one could have done more damage to it.

Those subpoenas are not the only things she lies about relative to her efforts and cases. I don't think it's all about donations for Orly, but she begs for them every day.

In fact, the only "birther" I believe it was all about the donations for was Phil Berg, who early on garnered a significant amount of money by doing exactly what Orly does, and that's lying about the status of his cases over and over. He was finally caught at it by documentation and that ended.

I don't think it's about money for the other "leaders" (except perhaps Haskins) but I have no idea why they don't call Orly out on her lies except for the fact that perhaps they somehow feel that no matter how crazy some of her claims (most actually) it keeps the "issue" out in front of the public. That's true, but I'm convinced her publicity causes more harm than good to anyone who believes in the cause.

Beyond that, to not recognize that she is completely legally incompetent, is the ostrich syndrome. She (and others as well, but more so Orly) say what some want to hear so they make themselves believe her.
January 9, 2012 7:24 PM "

The word "Duh!" comes to mind. What were the first five dozen clues Sherlock??

"Witch said…[Reply]

@Anonymous

"if the judge/court didn't want them to be used then they wouldn't have posted them in the FIRST PLACE!!!!!!"

The forms are (were) placed there for the convenience of officers of the court to perform their duties when they actually have leave or order from the court to serve a subpoena. They are not there for anyone to just download and use at a whim.

It's exactly the same way as when a judge orders prevailing counsel to "prepare an order to that effect". Counsel has to prepare the order in accordance with what the Judge intended. They can't just write up an order at whim and include anything they want.

Orly took advantage of a resource of trust made available to attorneys practicing in good faith, and she's using it illegally and improperly. As a result now none of the attorneys in Georgia can make use of it.
January 9, 2012 8:32 PM "

This is why you can't have nice things.

"Anonymous said…[Reply]

"Orly took advantage of a resource of trust made available to attorneys practicing in good faith, and she's using it illegally and improperly. As a result now none of the attorneys in Georgia can make use of it."

Isn't this kind of practice unethical? It has to be.
January 9, 2012 8:47 PM "

Dr. Orly? Ethics?? Where have you been the last three years??

"Anonymous said…[Reply] As I recall Attorney John Carroll offered to help Orly in one of her cases when she was in Hawaii and she just blew off his offer and then later disparaged him as some old person. That is not the way to treat a local attorney who offered to help. Orly's ego and possessiveness of all things "birther" is approaching super nova proportions and it is getting in the way in many ways. January 9, 2012 9:56 PM"

Dr. Orly? Share the stage with anyone else??

"Anonymous said…[Reply] Orly states: "In relation to subpoenas, some uneducated morons, who do not have any legal background are claiming that it is somehow illegal to issue subpoenas."

Putting the vast irony aside, I read the concerned citizen's letter, and nowhere in it did that person even imply that issuing subpoenas is illegal. I think the point the person was making was that it is dishonest (or unethical) for Orly to claim that the blank subpoena forms that she filled in the blanks on were somehow issued by Judge Mahili. I think that only an uneducated moron (or an unethical, money-seeking attention hound) would believe that such a subpoena was issued by a judge.

And, I saw the $3 million house remark too, and while I certainly agree with the person who "admires success," I don't agree with someone who has more means than the rest of us constantly begging us for donations to fund her ever-increasing number of embarrassing failures.
January 10, 2012 2:20 PM"

"American Citizen said…[Reply] Thank you for bringing this information to my attention. I have donated to Dr. Taitz in the past. I have had increasing reservations about her methods and personal ambitions. I think that she has betrayed many good people for the sake of her self aggrandizement. For as hard as she has worked and for the importance of the issue, it is disappointing that I have to question her integrity. With great disenchantment, I will not be supporting Dr. Taitz any more. January 10, 2012 9:43 AM"

Some of them are starting to look at something that may have been actually near a clue at one point.

Even the moderator gets into the act.

"Moderator said…[Reply] The person that submitted the published letter is not an Obot. In fact if we revealed the name most readers here would know who the person is.

We were asked not to publish the name for various reasons. This is not about the person that published the valid concern. Have Orly address it herself and we will happily publish her rebuttal.

The concerns are valid and not just concerns of the writer. We receive many similar complaints and concerns related to Attorney Taitz's tactics.
January 9, 2012 9:12 PM"

And, of course, there's the "how DARE you QUESTION the SACRED WORD OF DR. ORLY??? HERETIC!!!!! UNCLEAN!!! THEY ARE NO LONGER ONE WITH LANDRU!!!!!" brigade.

"Anonymous said…[Reply]

what exactly is the problem here? another non issue by whiners. IF the form isn't legal, what's the judge's stamp and sig doing on it. GROW UP PEOPLE AND GET A CLUE. Anybody can use these forms, if the judge/court didn't want them to be used then they wouldn't have posted them in the FIRST PLACE!!!!!! HELLO!! You can say the same thing about any other lawyer using the forms, so don't blame someone who is using the system. It appears to millions of americans that the usurper has gamed the system for years, and now when someone else games the system you all start whining. Look at the facts first, use common sense, before you start attacking people without knowing all the facts. Sounds to me like the OP is nothing but a trouble maker, and a stalker boot.

The facts rule out, and this letter does NOT pass the RED FACE test.

move on people
January 9, 2012 8:17 PM "

"Anonymous said…[Reply]

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions here,Why didn't this "concerned voter" put her real name up there?? are you sure this "concerned voter" isn't an OBOT????
January 9, 2012 8:59 PM "

"Commykiller said…[Reply] I've never heard so much BULLSHIT in my life.

This is the most VICIOUS ATTACK on Orly to date.

Interesting that it should come from within our mist. (Or does it..?!)

Look how happy the COMMIES are:
-I commend the owner of this blog for publishing the actual reason for her failure ahead of time.

Is this still B.R.com..?! Sounds like FOGBLOWJOB to me…

-Just a little bit of research showed me that Mr. and Mrs. Orly live in a $3 million home in Laguna Niguel, CA.

That's as far as I need to read…
But then, I'm not a COMMIE. I ADMIRE Success..!
January 10, 2012 12:46 PM"

And oh look. Dean Haskins is reduced to trying to take potshots at me at birther report.

"Dean Haskins said…[Reply] @Anonymous at 7:24 am:

Could you point out exactly where I have made any public appeals for money? You appear to be as dense as Patrick McKinnion (and, believe me, that's a special kind of dense).

Dean Haskins
January 10, 2012 5:35 AM"

Gotta love it. Comes over here, acts insulting, rude, and nasty. Doesn't back up a single one of his claims. Has the facts explained to him repeatedly. Acts like a spoiled 3rd grader. And then goes over to a birther site and makes snotty comments about me to his fellow birtherstani. (The irony being that most birther sites wouldn't even allow me to comment, much less act the way he does on my blog.)

Wow Dean. If you work at it, you might be able to act even LESS mature than you normally do.

Oh, as for your "show me where I asked for money" thing, well, looks like someone else beat me to it.

"Anonymous said…[Reply]
@Dean Haskins

Support the Birther Summit

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Gifts are just that: Gifts.
No tax-deductions.

You may also send checks made payable to "The Birther Summit"
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Because of the massive costs associated with this event, there is a necessary registration fee for the morning rally. The base registration fee is $44, however the Birther Summit Operations Team decided to offer a $5 discount to anyone who possesses a non-forged copy of a birth certificate. No proof of the birth certificate is required, as this is the current White House standard. To date, everyone, except Barack Obama, qualifies for this discount, which brings the actual general registration fee to $39. Included in the registration fee, registrants will receive Birther Summit memorabilia upon arrival at the rally entrance.

Be the first to get Birther Summit shirts, hats and mugs.
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January 10, 2012 8:09 AM"

Looks like a pretty open and brazen appeal for money alright.

"Dean Haskins said…[Reply] The only way anyone sees that message is to visit our site--it, by no means, can be construed as a "public appeal for money." I have issued no public statements begging for money. What is on our website is simply "matter of fact," there have been no vocal cries for money. There is nothing different in what you posted, and any other agency in the world promoting an event. To equate that with a statement that I am just concerned about money is absurd and ludicrous. January 10, 2012 8:23 AM

Is your site open to the public?? Well then it's a public appeal for money then, same as Dr. Orly's appeals for money on her site.

Haskins hypocrisy is pretty outstanding, even for a birther.

9 January - The Birther Report article about the disgruntled birther shows up in the Facebook community "Orly's World"

Guess who appears in the comments:

*Evil chuckle*

10 January - Dr. Orly reacts to the open letter at Birther Report. (Malware and redirect warning)

And the reaction is about what you would expect.

"Yet again I was maligned by people claiming to be on the same side and hiding behind anonymous names. This is the last time I am responding to anonymous attacks. I operate in the open, my name and my bar license are known. In the future, people, who attack me, need to get out of the shadows, provide their name, their bar license and specific rules and statutes, that they are claiming."

Oh, are we going the Leo Donofrio route when it comes to criticism??

"In relation to subpoenas, some uneducated morons, who do not have any legal background are claiming that it is somehow illegal to issue subpoenas. This is a total and complete nonsense. We are less than 3 weeks before trial. "

First off, the "subpoenas" you were using are only valid in Georgia.

Second off, it's not a trial, it's an administrative hearing.

"It is interesting that in one of his orders, judge Malihi admonished the parties not to embellish the statements, he told the parties that all quotes will be checked. I never saw a judge giving such a stern warning to the parties, as it is presumed that the parties provide the court with correct statements, don’t embellish and it is presumed that the statements are checked. I can’t say for sure, but it is likely Judge Malihi made such a stern warning, to show, that the meaning of natural born should not be embellished."

Which, of course, the birthers will do anyway.

"Here is a bigger question: why do people, claiming to be on our side, are hiding behind assumed names and are supporting only attorneys, who bring very limited cases, which can be quickly defeated, and are attacking and viciously defaming the only attorney, who brings forward a stronger case with the most explosive evidence, which not only will keep Obama off the ballot, but will send him and his accomplices to prison? What is their motivation? "

The motivation is the dim but growing realization that your antics are directly hurting their cause. Mind you, they don't have a snowball's chance either.

You know how the birthers ended up throwing Philip Berg under the bus because he kept making promises that he never delivered on, all the while trying to hit people up for money?

Looks like you might be joining him there.

10 January - Stephen Pidgeon steps away from birtherism to focus on his primary joy - denying GLBT people equal rights.

"As the Legislature prepares to take up a bill legalizing same-sex marriage, a gay-marriage opponent on Monday filed an initiative in an attempt to ensure the issue is brought before voters in November, should lawmakers approve it.

The filing by Everett attorney Stephen Pidgeon comes a week after Gov. Chris Gregoire said she would propose same-sex marriage legislation for Washington state.

The proposed initiative, not yet numbered, would reaffirm the state's Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as between "a male" and "a female." The initiative seeks to slightly tweak the statute's language, changing it to "one man" and "one woman."

10 January - Seen at Birther Report

"GunnyRed said…[Reply] When I'm dead & gone the ONLY thing I care for anybody to remember about me is this: I was never fooled for a second by this imposter Obama. He does not meet the definition of "natural-born Citizen" as defined and understood by our Founding Fathers because his alleged father was not a U.S. citizen. What is even worse is that Obama himself was born a British Subject in Kenya before later being adopted in Indonesia. Obama attended Occidental College as Moslem Barry Soetoro & rec'd a Fulbright scholarship for foreign students. The Hawaiian Birth Certificate is a forgery and he is currently using stolen (CT) (redacted). Congress knows this info but refuses to impeach this fraud. Jesus is the Son of God. Obama is a son of the devil. January 10, 2012 10:39 AM"

So when you're dead, you want people to remember you as a gullible racist fool?? Okay, I think you'll succeed at that.

10 January - The motion to dismiss in Sorensen v Kennedy is filed.

(Scribd link here)

"6. The present case is a copycat filing which is virtually identical to Albert J. Hendershot, Jr. v. Mark Kennedy, No. CV-2011-002321 (Jeff Co. Cir. Ct.), in which this court dismissed the plaintiff's claims with prejudice. See Order of January 9, 2012, a copy of which is attached hereto.

7. The present action is due to be dismissed on the grounds of res judicator and/or collateral estoppel. See Harold Sorensen v Bob Riley, No. CV-2008-1906 (Montgomery Co. (Ala.) Cir. Ct.) (suit challenging President Obama's eligibility as a Natural Born Citizen)."

Well, I guess Sorensen could argue they're two completely different cases because:

In 2008, Sorensen believed that Obama wasn't a natural born citizen because Sorensen thought he was born in Kenya.

In 2012, Sorensen believed that Obama wasn't a natural born citizen because Sorensen thought you needed two US citizen parents.

See, completely different!!

"8. The present action is frivolous, groundless in fact and in law, vexatious, interposed for an improper purpose, and is "without substantial justification" as that term is used in the Alabama Litigation Accountability Act, § 12-19-270, et seq. Code of Alabama (1975). This Court should award the Defendant his costs and attorneys fees incurred in responding to this frivolous case.

WHEREFORE the Defendants moves this Court to dismiss this case with prejudice."

Get the feeling Barry Ragsdale isn't messing around??

10 January - Professional seditionist Sharon Rondeau allows Al Hendershot to spin his dismissal.

"I asked for the motion for her to recuse herself and she refused, so I asked to withdraw the case and find a different judge. Then she came up with the statement that my reason for her to recuse herself was based on the fact that she was “black like President Obama.”

Ignoring the fact that we only have Hendershot's take on this, I will point out again that the first person to bring race into this was the attorney Hendershot wanted admitted to the case pro hac vice - Dr. Orly Taitz

"On January 6, Judge Helen Shores Lee denied Hendershot’s Motion to Stay which requested that the January 9 hearing be postponed after Atty. Orly Taitz agreed to represent him. Hendershot had asked that the hearing be rescheduled for the end of January so that he could “properly argue the cases” raised by the Democrat Party’s attorney. "

In other words, you were trying to run out the clock when you knew the DemocratIC party had a deadline to meet.

11 January - The Birmingham News reports on Sorensen's demand that the judge in Sorensen v Kennedy recuse herself because she's of a dusky hue.

"Acting as his own lawyer, Sorenson wrote his recusal motion should be granted "due to racial bias, lack of judicial discretion as well as lack of knowledge of the U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5."

Sorenson also filed suit after the 2008 presidential election challenging both Obama's and Sen. John McCain's citizenship and qualification to be included on state ballots. A Montgomery County judge dismissed that suit in 2009, court records show."

Oh, and it seems Hendershot even admitted this was part of a group effort.

"A similar suit has been filed by a Pell City man in St. Clair County. It is part of an informal effort in several Southern states to keep Obama off their ballots, Hendershot has said. They contend Obama is not a natural-born citizen and that he is using a forged birth certificate and a fake social security number.

Judges have dismissed at least seven similar suits since 2008."

More like 93 suits.

11 January - One gets the idea that Thomas MacLeran discussing the state of Civil Rights in this country is a lot like Andrew Jackson discussing Cherokee land rights in Georgia. Or having a discussion on Roma or Jewish civil rights in 1930's and 40's Germany.

"It’s being washed right down the drain, and those who benefited the most from the Civil Rights that emerged from the struggle that was started by one lady, Rosa Parks on a bus in 1955, are losing it all, and the crazy thing is that the target group are the very people who are trashing their own future. All of the advancement in human rights in the past 50 years, in the past 500, and in the past 2,000, are all being systematically washed down the drain, snuffed out of existence, as if they never were."

"Wahhh! They got uppity and forgot their place!!"

" History is being rewritten, as for example, when Obama said that the United States has a “mutual interest and mutual respect for Islam” when in fact there’s no country that wants anything to do with Islam. But then, as they say, to the victor go the spoils, one of which is the mastery to rewrite history in their image.

Yes, the United States has a history with Islam, and they were called the Barbary Pirates, and we won that fight, thanks to the staunch stand of President Thomas Jefferson."

That would be the same conflict that was ended with the Treaty of Tripoli, which had the paragraph:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Funny thing that.

"The enemy is Islam-loving government employees, or, to put it another way, the enemy of the people of the United States is their very own government which refuses to acknowledge that Western Civilization is at war with Islam, to the death, and there is no room, nor place, for second place."

Threaty and bigoted. A twofer!

"LTC Terry Lakin was tried and convicted in a military court that saw the UCMJ become a totally meaningless document, and if the ineligible usurper masquerading as our president is reelected, the Constitution will also be but a distant memory, as will the Magna Carta, the Articles of Confederation, the Declaration of Independence."

They've been big on invoking the Magna Carta of late, haven't they?

"All of the advances in Civil Rights will be wiped from the memories of the citizens of the United States. Rosa Parks’s name and memory will not even generate a footnote in the America of the future. And we have Obots and spineless leaders, military and otherwise, to thank for their cowardliness. Think of the lives given and lost for the cause of freedom, and weep."

"Wahhh! We haven't had a military coup against the scary black man!! WAHHH!!!"

"My name is Thomas Gregory MacLeran, and our government better fear me and all like-minded Patriots who believe in the law of equality among all legal citizens of the United States of America, so help me God."

Oh, I have no doubt people are keeping an eye on anti-Constitutional seditionists like Thomas MacLeran.

11 January - The Pest and eFail reports that the State of Georgia's response to a petition for a super duper grand jury to investigate the Georgia Secretary of State for doubleplus ungood nonbirtherthink was, surprise, "no".

And MJ Blanchard takes being told "no" has well as any other birther. He throws a tantrum and gets all throaty.

"Laws have been broken, allegedly, by the Secretary of State and/or his designee in the Georgia elections division. I have one last avenue to go down before I can be satisfied that citizens defending the remnants of the Constitution have no redress of grievances through the judicial, administrative, and legislative branches of government."

And the would be??

"Please note that if you feel that you see “sedition” in my comments and must notify the “authorities”; that has already been done. I am meeting with the “authorities” this very Thursday. We meet fairly often to discuss issues surrounding federal intervention in violations of the 4th Amendment, prevention of perceived legal recourse in the 2nd Amendment, para-militarization of civilian law enforcement, "

O RLY?? And what "authorities" are you talking about? The members of your local militia group? Carl Swenssen?? Your Rice Krispies???

"…but most specifically to discuss progress towards resolution of the abject judicial corruption of the judiciary and grand jury system in east Tennessee."

*Chuckle* Well, you better not talk to Carl Swensson then, He tends to blab to the FBI……

"Are you familiar with what goes on in the judicial “system” in east Tennessee? Do you see a parallel in what goes on there and what is happening in Georgia? "

Well, in the sense that you have a batch of seditious wackaloons claiming corruption in the legal system because nobody will hear their pleas to get rid of that uppity darkie in the White House, yes, there are parallels.

11 January - Someone must have given the Pest and eFail a laxative. Because I otherwise can't explain this pile of manure.

"I have finally figured out where this is coming from and it explains a lot of the hostility found in the courts against citizen voters and their concern with Constitutional Eligibility. It is the understanding of the definition of “natural born citizen” itself and the document that controls that definition."

You mean the US Constitution and 200+ years of established case law?

Black’s Law Dictionary is considered secondary only to U.S. Supreme Court rulings as a legal source. It was first published in the 19th century and is in its Ninth Edition. However, in 1991, the Fifth Edition, the definition for natural born citizens was stated as follows:

Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad. (Black’s Law Dictionary, 6th Ed., 1991, p.1026)

Section 4.1.
Native. A nature-born subject or citizen; a denizen by birth; one who owes his domicile or citizenship to the fact of his birth within the country referred to. The term may also include one born abroad, if his parents were citizens of the country, and not permanently residing in foreign parts. U. S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U. S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456, 42 L.Ed. 890; New Hartford v. Canaan, 54 Conn. 39, 5 A. 360; Oken v. Johnson, 160 Minn. 217, 199 N.W. 910.

Funny how legal references that predate Obama's election all seem to have the same definition.

"This is the controlling definition being protected by the judicial system. It is not grounded in the Constitution but in British Common law. "

Well, considering that much of US law was derived from British Common Law back in the late 1700's…..

"Any lawsuit going forward needs to consider this and address it head-on by declaring the sitting judge a hostile participant to the hearing biased in favor of British common law instead of the U.S. Constitution."

O RLY?? Let us know how that goes for you, skippy.

11 January - This is at Free Republic, so take it with a grain of salt.

"Prayers For FReeper Hero - Roaddog 727 Terminal - He Fought Obama In Court
MB26
Posted on January 11, 2012 1:44:56 PM PST by MindBender26

Stefan Cook, Roaddog 727 on FR, in terminally I'll in the Tampa VA. His story is long and distinguished, but here is the synopsis

Stefan is a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army Reserve. He was called to active duty in 2009. He was worried about the legality of an order from a POTUS who might not be legally elected because of citizenship questions. He had legal concerns that he could be accused of war crimes if an order to take military action was held to be invalid because it emanated from an improper authority

Stefan sued, and rather than proving citizenship, Obama's lawyers had Stefan's orders cancelled, making Stefan's litigation moot.

Cowards,

There is more on thins American hero, but this is on an iPad in a moving car.

Prayers for his comfort please.

I wouldn't call him a "hero" for being a birther. And he volunteered to go THEN filed his lawsuit with Dr. Orly. When he did that, the military treated this as his changing his mind (which he could do 48 hours before deployment). Obama's lawyers weren't even in the courtroom, as the lawsuit was against Col. Wanda Good, representing the US Army

That being said, I hope that either he recovers well and fully, or that his passing is quiet, easy and surrounded by family and loved ones.

11 January - The Pest and eFail reports on Stefan Cook.

" On the evening of January 10, 2012, The Post & Email received an email from a close friend of Maj. Stefan Cook, who is reportedly in a Florida hospital suffering from a non-malignant but inoperable tumor located near his stomach."

Non-malignant but inoperable??

"Last time I spoke to Stefan was about a week ago and we were working on getting him up to Jacksonville for a new treatment at University of FL. At some point after that call he aspirated and had to be admitted to the hospital and put on a ventilator which he was taken off yesterday. "

"Just heard from Stefan’s daughter this AM. They are not expecting Stefan to recover from this and it is just a matter of hours or days before he is gone."

That sounds a lot more serious than a non-malignant tumor.

Again, my hopes for his recovery if possible, and a passing filled with grace and joy if recovery isn't possible.

"Our story about Maj. Cook’s challenge of Obama’s constitutional eligibility was written exactly two years ago yesterday. Cook had been represented by Atty. Orly Taitz in a federal court in Georgia, after which Taitz had been sanctioned $20,000 by Judge Clay Land for allegedly filing a “frivolous” lawsuit and a “political dispute.”

Actually, no. Dr. Orly was sanctioned for her conduct in Rhodes v MacDonald, not Cook v Good. And Rhodes v MacDonald happened AFTER Cook v Good, not the other way around.

11 January - Arizona becomes the third state to come out with a 2012 birther bill. And it's the same repeat offender, Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix.

"Last year, Seel met with one of the more prolific “birthers,” Donald Trump, to discuss the bill.

Although the president released a copy of his long-form birth certificate in April, some conservatives have continued to insist that more accountability is needed for candidates running for office.

Seel said that he still has questions about Obama’s citizenship and that he doesn’t believe voters are tired of hearing about the “birther” theory.

“I don’t think voters will ever get tired of seeing their elected officials working to uphold the Constitution and defend the country,” he said.

Seel added that he had worked with the Secretary of State Ken Bennett to get its input before he moved forward with the revamped measure, which has not yet been filed.

While he had not yet spoken with the Governor’s Office, he said that he expects Bennett’s approval of the bill to help win her support.

Matt Roberts, spokesman for the Secretary of State’s office, confirmed that Bennett had met with Seel and has been “generally supportive” of the concept, but added that he couldn’t definitively say whether Bennett supported the measure until he saw the wording."

Comments

[bob]

ORYR Moderator: "The person that submitted the published letter is not an Obot. In fact if we revealed the name most readers here would know who the person is."

My money is on Swensson.

[G]

Thanks for the update Patrick. The furious fervor of Birther folly in 2012 has just started..

Stock up on popcorn! The court-based smackdowns coming soon will be quite the enjoyable entertainment indeed!

[Xyxox]

The only thing funnier than the current birther antics of desperation will be their reaction should Obama be re-elected.

[ASK Esq]

Did I read that right? Is MacLaren actually worried about the Articles of Confederation becoming a distant memory? I'm not so concerned about his mentioning the Magna Carta, as I can't expect him to be familiar with British history. But does he somehow have the idea that the Articles of Confederation are still in force? Is this some Sovereign Citizen thing, or just general idiocy?

[The Magic M]

> Is this some Sovereign Citizen thing

I suppose yes, given the MC's references to "freemen" and the AoC's language of "sovereign states" and non-existence of such evil things as "fedurrl gubnment".

That's what many of these hokeys want to go back to, sovereign citizens in sovereign states bound together simply by loose ties of "friendship".

The cranks in my country share the same view that going back to isolation (as in "we don't need your stinkin' oil and bananas") is somehow desirable or sound. While it actually just reeks of xenophobia.

[G]

Spot on The Magic M, spot on!