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January 26, 2012

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GMpilot

"One also has to think hard about how Eric Holder, who was confirmed in Los Angeles that day, could have gotten from Los Angeles to Atlanta and back in less than two hours. Last time I checked, all the SR-71's are in museums."

Well, I think the sole surviving operational SR-71 is in the hands of NASA. Still, getting getting from LA to Atlanta and back would have required two of them...
Damn, I shouldn't have said that. Now it'll become part of The Conspiracy in some circles.

Great work, Patrick. Keep punchin'!

Mark M

Hey Patrick, this just in: it looks like science has found a connection between low IQ, racism, and conservative beliefs. Seriously:

"There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy...As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias."

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

Science confirms what we always suspected about the birthers.

G

Mark M - enjoyed the article link. thanks!

Stephen

I was wondering whether anyone had any ideas on the "9 types of citizen in the United States" that were reported? How about:
1. Naturalized citizens.
2. Descendents of negro slaves who are citizens only because of the 14th Amendment.
3. Children born on U.S. soil whose parents were both U.S. citizens at the time of the birth. (The only true Natural born citizens.)
4. Children born off U.S. soil whose parents were both U.S. citizens at the time of the birth.
5. Children born on U.S. soil whose father was a U.S. citizen at the time of the birth but the mother was not.
6. Children born off U.S. soil whose father was a U.S. citizen at the time of the birth but the mother was not.
7. Children born off U.S. soil whose father was not U.S. citizen at the time of the birth but the mother was a U.S. citizen and she had resided in the U.S. for at least 7 years after the age of 14.
8. White, male descendents of the founding fathers.
9. I can't think of any other combinations. Any suggestions?

The Magic M

Stephen, I think Miki is referring to this particular piece of birther "science":

http://scribd.com/doc/78812824/US-Citizenship-Birth-Matrix-2012

9 of those, if I count correctly, would be considered US citizens according to birthers.

Notcontested

Hey Fatrick (My heart bleeds purple peanut butter) McStinking, you can tout your BULLSHIT to what blind, deaf, un-educated, FAT, shit-hole licking welfare loving followers you have until you finally expire from the heart attack you're sure to suffer (and I hope you do suffer), but that's NEVER going to validate your (badly written) opinions or views.
Clearly, the fat that you continue to pack onto that gutless frame of yours has made it's way to your head. The only thing that registers as far as you're concerned is your stench. You smell like vinegar huh? Nice. This coming from someone who actually knows you. Eat something green you fat, stinking mass of fast-fry.

Bob

Stephen,
What about adopted children whose parent's citizenship status isn't known? Blue-eyed, adopted at birth, named Dave, and raised in Davenport, Iowa deemed eligible? Adopted at age 14 with brown skin, named Hussein and living in Dearborn, Michigan perhaps not eligible?

How about children produced by in vitro fertilization?
Sperm from an NBC, egg from an NBC, carried by a foreign national born in another country?
Sperm from an anonymous donor, egg from a foreign national, implanted in an unmarried NBC born in a foreign country?

What about children who look nothing like their "father" and are clearly the result an extramarital affair?

Those patriotic Birthers have a lot of decisions to make for us.


WWJD

Oooh, some birther crawls over here, has nothing of substance to say, and can only come up with sophomoric insults? Yeah, that's your typical birther. I would not be surprised if "it" wears a huge crucifix around it's neck, has a fish symbol on the back of it's pickup truck, and attends church every Sunday and Wednesday evening. WWJD?

Thomas Brown

Hey "Notcontested"... wipe your uncle's jizz off your lips and take your pecker outa your mom's asshole before slithering over here spewing your infantile flatulence. Patrick is twice the man you'll ever be, and all you have is fat jokes? What a loser.

You got the balls to come to my part of America and call me a "shit-hole licking welfare lover" to my face? Nah, you're just a pin-dicked little pussy hiding behind a cum-stained keyboard. If you did, though, I'd be happy to rip an arm off for ya and shove it down your shit-stained gullet. You'd discover some Liberals are tough, well-armed, well-educated, and don't take any crap from America-hating traitors like you.

Any friggin' day, pal. Bring it; I dare ya. Otherwise, eat shit and die.

Patrick McKinnion

Notcontested - Oh how fun, it's a troll.

Since your IP address (207.245.236.58) is mapping to an address in Toronto, I seriously doubt you know me. (Your InterPals Penpals profile shows the same location as of two years ago as well.)

The fact you're wrong about the weight (used to be 50 lbs over my ideal, now down to 35 lbs), diet (actually I happen to like salads and veggies, thanks), and health (low blood pressure, and a checkup several months ago showed I was in excellent cardiac health for a man in his mid-40's) shows even more that you don't know me.

And the fact that you don't have anything to offer but baseless insults and snotty comments tends to underscore your status as a rather ignorant troll.

But nice try, eh? You can go back under your bridge now.

Suranis

Notcontested, I have one thing to say to you...


Hello.

Bob

Hey Notcontested,
Patrick promises to work on his weight if you'll work on your personality, social skills, and I.Q.

Rambo Ike

Hey, hey, hey!

Well how about that. Finally some factual comments on Patrice's 'Stuck Up 0bumm0's Butt' propaganda blog.

Thanks Notcontested. It was appreciated even though Patrice's at the most a dozen mindless useful idiot minions won't agree.

The Magic M

Been a long time since the insult birthers (much less funny than Triumpf, the Insult Comic Dog) came over here. They must be very disappointed - I mean, obviously they've rehearsed their "I thank the Acedemy, uh, Malihi and just want to say 'told you so'" speech for days and now find themselves suspended in mid-air, realizing the void beneath them. Sucks to be a birther, any day of the year.

Patrick McKinnion

Rambo Ike - Hey, haven't seen you since the last time you showed up in comments. What was that, (checks my logs), oh right, 3-4 June of 2011.

I see your spelling hasn't improved much either.

Wow, I guess there's a batch of bridges that are being worked on, since the trolls seem to be out today.

Geir Smith

Geir Smith has been fighting Barack Obama since early 2008, when he discovered to his horror, that Obama was a Muslim. His hair stood on end further when, at Obama’s election victory, the Illinois Lottery drew 666. Geir Smith’s the only one in the world spreading this news worldwide to everyone. Geir’s background is Paris Dauphine University and five years of Tibetan language and culture. Geir Smith did 28 years of post-university research upon the Tantric deity Kalachakra, of which he is the world authority. Tibetan Tantric Buddhism is the world’s highest form of culture as it has sexual ritual. In the Kalachakra prophecy, there is an antichrist-figure like Obama: the Demon-King Krinmati. Fighting the Antichrist Obama is identic...al to realizing the Kalachakra Apocalypse. Geir Smith has the position of King of Shambhala, not the Dalai Lama. Geir Smith is Buddhist and thus being the messenger of the Christian Apocalypse is something which is alien to him and which he assumes reluctantly - totally by chance – because it just happened that he starting fighting Obama due to Obama being a Muslim. Then, discovering the Mark of 666 upon Obama unwillingly forced Geir Smith into this battle of Apocalypse. His background had trained him to face the Buddhist Demon King, not the Christian Antichrist, but they turned out to be the same one, Obama. Geir’s work is that of a religious Buddhist, and he’s a experienceded practitioner who has carried out an eight-month meditation retreat upon the Tantric deity Dorje Naljorma (Vajra Yogini).

Rambo Ike

Yo Patrice,

Next time you get together for some intimate talk with your boyfriend Foggy let him know his spin on natural born Citizen doesn't fly.

He always leaves out: 1862, Congressman John Bingham—the “father of the 14th Amendment”—stated, persons born within the Republic,
of parents (plural) owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens.

I bet even you have enough snap to answer the following question:

What country was that that his father had allegiance to?

Patrick McKinnion

Rambo Ike - *Laugh* Do you really think I'm so insecure in my sexuality that your cute little trip into homophobic slurs would insult me??

Nope. Amuses me. Amuses my wife too.

As for your quotation of Leo Donofrio's talking points, you fail to note that Rep. John Bingham spoke that 8 years before the 14th Amendment was ratified. To cite the 14th Amendment:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

This is called the "Citizenship Clause" The funny thing is it doesn't memtion parentage in the slightest. For that matter, President Andrew Johnson, Sen. Lyman Trumbull, and two other US Senators made it clear that it was to confer citizenship on all at birth, and no Senator offered a contrary opinion. Trumbull even went so far to state that the Civil Rights Act of 1866 stated that as well in no uncertain terms.

Regarding President Obama's father, US law regarding dual citizenship at birth is quite clear - it doesn't affect one's US citizenship in the slightest. The main catch is that if you get in troublem or have obligations in that other country while in said country, the US cannot help you. The fact that Obama's father had British Empire and Colonies citizenship (later Kenyan) means nothing in regards to President Obama's legal status in US law as a Natural Born US Citizen.

Patrick McKinnion

Geir Smith - "Kalachakra" (or Kalacakra if you will) means "time cycle" or "time wheel" is part of Vajrayana Buddhism as well as the Tantric meditations and philosophy within that aspect of Vajrayana Buddhism. As a philosophy, it refers to cycles, from the cycle of time and the movement of the seasons and planets, to the cycle of life and breathing. The concept can be represented as a deity, which is considered to be an aspect of the Buddha. The Yab-Yum is also seen as an aspect of this concept.

So then, are you claiming to be the Chakravartin, come down to smite the barbarian overlord?? You may want to read a bit of Alexander Berzin's work, where the battle is actually an internal one that uses the Charkravartin to fight the inner mental and emotional aggression that results in intolerance, hatred, violence and war. This transmutes aggression into a method for overcoming illusion and ego.

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