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January 28, 2012

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G

Good post Patrick! Well said.

Mark M

The point they're trying to make, Patrick, is that Apple has by far the biggest clout with regards to its contractors. If Apple were to require certain minimum labor standards for the factories that produce its products, it would cover a greater proportion of the labor force in China, and thus make it easier to get the other companies to also comply.

Somebody has to be the first to take a stand. Apple, as the biggest guy in the market, is the one being asked to do so.

Mary

I would pay more for a PC if
(a) it and its parts were made in the US, and
(b) if I could be assured of a good quality product that wouldn't have a 20% chance of some major part failing within a year.

Those 2 items may be related.

Phil

Further to Mark M's comment.

I'd also add that Apple makes more profit per employee then any other company using Foxconn's "services". So not only are they engaged in the same practises but their consumers don't even get as much benefit in pricing from it as those that buy their competitor's products.

This then forces that competiton to drive conditions even lower in an attempt to compete. It's not called a race to the bottom for nothing.

The simple solution of course is to require all imports to be manufactured under working conditions equivalent to the minimum standards applicable to workers in western nations. And for those that aren't either ban their import or place tariffs on them equivalent to what they would have cost to manufacture. Unfortunately since big business owns the government and the average voter is a moron, this will never happen.

Suranis

There was a big lawcase about 10 to 15 years ago where the EU decided to import bananas from Haiti rather than South America, even though Haitian Bananas were more expensive, because they preferred the working conditions Haitian bananas were made under. (I may be getting the name of the countries mixed up but its the overall story that's important. And I'm too lazy to look it up right now) The us took the EU to the WTO, arguing that such a move contravened free trade. The US won and the EU was forced, and yes I mean forced, to import south American bananas instead. Devastation for Haitian farmers followed.

SO the EU was not allowed by the US to chose its own product even if it was more expensive due to humanitarian constraints. And you are surprised by the foxconn BS?

This computer which I've put together out of parts has a Foxcon motherboard, and oddly I'm not going to feel guilty as long as fucked up shit like that banana story is allowed to happen. Besides I didn't know about Foxcon when I bought it. Its actually a pretty decent motherboard too.

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