In today's dispatches, the Birther Ballot Jihad attempts continue. And in come cases, the birthers past legal history are their own worst enemy. Meanwhile the birtherstani seem to be going "Old News is Fun, Yay!"
Professional Seditionist Sharon Rondeau wants to know why tranny hunter and pink plastic phallus owner/operator Darren Huff is in jail, when there are real criminals that should be there (by which she means "debunkers"). Meanwhile, the racism in birtherstan continues to be on the increase.
Dr. Orly tries to shoehorn herself into Georgia anyway, while her Yahoo continues to be a hot zone. Walter Fitzpatrick still can't accept responsibility for his actions. And Gary Nance comes up with a theory on citizenship that harkens back to the thrilling days of the 1930's and 40's.
16 February - In the California Birther Ballot Jihad, the birtherstani get a reply from the Attorney General for the State of California.
(Scribd link here)
Of note, the Table of Authorities cites Keyes v Bowen and Robinson v Bowen.
"This matter is what has come to be known as a "birther" case, a lawsuit premised on the notion that President Barack Obama is not a "natural born citizen" as required by the United States Constitution and therefore ineligible to hold the office of President of the United States. Based on this purported ineligibility, Petitioners, proceeding pro se, seek a peremptory writ of mandate directing California Secretary of State Debra Bowen to bar President Barack Obama from the 2012 ballot."
In other words "the usual crap".
"Additionally, it is federal law that provides a mechanism for lodging objections to presidential candidate qualifications. And because Petitioners did not bring this action until after President Obama was elected and inaugurated for the first time more than four years ago, the action is barred by the doctrine of laches."
Basically, no, no magic reset button, sorry.
"According to the petition, "were Respondent Bowen to decide riot to use her discretionary authority to vet declared candidate Obama for the 2012 Presidential Election cycle in California Petitioners would suffer irreparable harm[.]"
Yeah, they may face four more years of spewing screaming hatred, lies, and blatant racism unless someone makes sure that Scary Black Man doesn't run again!!
"In a decision published last year, the Third District Court of Appeal concluded that the relevant Election Code provisions "do not impose a clear, present, or ministerial duty on the "Secretary of State to determine whether the presidential candidate meets the eligibility criteria of the United States Constitution." (Keyes v. Bowen (2011) 189 Cal.App.4th 647, 659.) Like Petitioners here, the petitioners in Keyes were "people who claim President Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States of America and, hence, is ineligible to be the President." (Id. at p. 651.)"
Don't you just love it when defense attorneys bring up the birthers past failures??
"Keyes acknowledged that California's Secretary of State is the state's chief elections officer and is responsible for ensuring "that elections are efficiently conducted and that state election laws are enforced …. " (Keyes v. Bowen (2011) 189 Cal.App.4th 647, 658, quoting Gov. Code, § 12172.5.) But the" court went on to conclude that these obligations do not include a duty to investigate a candidate's constitutional qualifications. (Id. at p. 659.) As the only published decision of a California appellate court on the question, Keyes is controlling precedent in the present proceeding."
On other words "didn't you read what we told you all LAST time???
17 February - Kerchner files his pile of poo in the Pennsylvania Birther Ballot Jihad.
(Scribd link here).
It's interesting in so far as the attorney did what seems to be the absolute minimum needed for this petition. And that the primary legal source for the two citizen parent theory Kerchner cites seems to be Mario Apuzzo.
You know, Apuzzo and Donofrio have a pretty good scam going. Neither of them have bothered to actually defend their ever increasing legal theories in court past their single original cases, they keep spinning ever-more absurd claims, and neither of them are willing to allow any debate or discussion on their theories. And yet the birthers eat it up with a spoon.
17 February - Birther repeat offender Ken Allen files the Arizona Birther Ballot Jihad.
It's pretty much the typical de Vattelist cut and paste.
And in comments:
"Anonymous said…[Reply] Nothing positive will happen. I admire all the hardworking, smart legal people who are chasing "the Ghost". But remember -- please remember-- you are using OLD OUTDATED TOOLS; the tools of the former USA / Constitution. THAT country and those laws no longer EXIST-- we live in post-constitutional America. The law of tyrants & Chicago thugs & radical Islam govern today. You must absorb this horrible fact, in order to survive. Adapt or perish! February 17, 2012 5:16 PM"
"Anonymous said…[Reply] Don't know about time travel, but I did take some mediumship classes with a Medium who was employed by the CIA and her gifts were used until they asked her to bring down a plane. She refused and stopped her work with them. You can believe what you want, this is a very true story and yes our Gobernut is very involved in the Psychic world. February 19, 2012 6:27 AM"
17 February - Dr. Orly dumps her usual load of legal dingo droppings upon Mississippi.
What's interesting is that the people at Birther Report are all but ignoring Dr. Orly to talk about time travel, psychic remote viewing, and teleportation to Mars.
18 February - Have you noticed lately how much the birthers are recycling older and older stories??
Case in point, Steady Drip Sam Sewell posts a YouTube video under the caption:
"Is Obama a Foreign Muslim Masquerading as an American Christian? - I don't know, but he sure doesn't sound like an American Christian!"
The video itself was posted onto YouTube on 7 August 2009. And exposed as an example of creative editing on 4 December 2009.
It's pretty bad when all they have are debunked lies.
18 February - Professional Seditionist Sharon Rondeau wonders why Darren Huff is in prison, instead of birther debunker Fogbow Foggy.
First off, she may want to ask Carl Swensson, since he was the one who ratted out Huff and Fitzpatrick to the FBI.
"Both Huff and Fitzpatrick are veterans of the U.S. Navy. Fitzpatrick is a retired Lt. Commander, and Huff served in Operation Desert Storm. Huff and Fitzpatrick have an entry at Wikipedia which begins, “The refusal to accept that Obama is the lawful president has led to acts of civil disobedience that have been criminally prosecuted.”
Sounds pretty accurate.
"In interviews leading up to Huff’s trial which were published at The Post & Email, Huff said that “nothing happened” on April 20, 2010. The mainstream media had widely labeled Huff a “birther” and accused him of plotting a “courthouse takeover.”
Maybe because he was a birther who was involved in an attempt to take over the courthouse??
"Huff has denied any intent to commit violence of any kind, and the courthouse was not “taken over” that day."
Due to advance warning and the arrest of some of the principals.
"Prior to his conviction, Huff had submitted pleadings to the federal court in Knoxville in defense of his Second and Fifth Amendment rights. His defense attorney, Scott Green, stated during the trial that “there was nothing to see” that day in Madisonville."
The jury seems to have disagreed.
"Bryan is reportedly an attorney who no longer practices and the person “who forged and distributed a fraudulent Kenyan birth certificate in August 2009.” He appears to be the administrator of The Fogbow, a pro-Obama website with forums in which members discuss the latest eligibility challenges, refute the allegations that the “long-form birth certificate” Obama showed to the public is a forgery, and “ridicule in vile and abusive terms” such individuals as Darren Huff, Walter Fitzpatrick, and readers of this newspaper as well as its editor. The Post & Email cannot link to The Fogbow forum because of its obscene content."
By "obscene content", she means "Wahhhhh!!! They tell the truth about us!!!!"
I wouldn't be surprised if Rondeau gets to the point of demanding all debunkers be arrested for the thoughtcrime of doubleplus ungood birtherdebunk.
"It is possible that “PJ Foggy” has attempted to take down The Post & Email on numerous occasions."
And your proof of this is???
"Of the news that Huff’s sentencing had been postponed, Fitzpatrick said:
Mr. Bryan, who is an Obot, is being teflon-coated. Mr. Bryan needs to be placed under arrest and held accountable for the events of 20 April 2010 because he has admitted to being responsible for them. We shouldn’t be talking about Darren’s sentencing at this point; we should be talking about Darren’s release and the connection to Obama’s FBI top dogs.
How about your buddy Carl Swensson instead? He was the one who ratted you out to the FBI.
"In the meantime, they’re looking to sentence Darren. Darren should be released; he’s committed no crime. He wasn’t responsible for that extraordinary police response. Who is? The man who admitted to doing it: William Bryan."
You know who was responsible for that "responsible for that extraordinary police response"???
All the people saying they were going to "take over the Monroe County courthouse and free Walter Fitzpatrick", that's who.
"It the past, it has been considered a crime to give false information to the FBI. Martha Stewart was convicted and jailed for allegedly doing so. Did Bryan lie to the FBI about “armed men” who would be attempting to “take over the courthouse?” Is it no longer a crime to lie to the FBI or other investigators because Obama is in office?"
Foggy passed on to the FBI the exact words that the people involved had posted on-line, along with the URLs for those comments.
Fitzpatrick and his fellows really, really, really hate to take personal responsibility for their actions.
"In 2009, The Department of Homeland Security had assigned the term “extremist” to returning war veterans, gun owners, and about those “expressing concerns about the election of the first African American president” (page 4 of 9). Its report was “coordinated with the FBI.”"
And said report was started under the Bush administration.
"So why has William L. Bryan not been prosecuted for his claim that he “got more than 100 cops ready for Cdr. Walt Fitzpatrick, when he showed up on April 20 with a group of armed men who thought they’d take over the Monroe County courthouse?” Is he being protected by someone? the TBI? the FBI? the Obama regime?"
Try "reality"
"Why was Huff’s conviction “a great achievement?” If someone else committed the crime, why is Huff sitting in jail?"
Because a jury of his peers examined the evidence and judged Huff guilty. Next?
18 February - In what passes for "Journalism" at the Pest and eFail.
"In Arab parliaments/legislatures they have the decency to throw shoes at one another. In some European countries they throw fruit or chairs at one another. In San Francisco they have limp-wristed slap fights when disputes break out."
I suspect the writer has a few…..issues…..to work out.
19 February - The latest pile of poo from birther nutcase Rudy "LoneStar1776"
19 February - The inmates at Birther Report go all ga-ga over Kerchner's petition.
"Barbara Blakeley said…[Reply] Outstanding! Citing to Mario's "essay" was brilliant. February 19, 2012 3:23 PM"
Yep, it undermines Kerchner quite nicely to cite the questionable ramblings of a DUI attorney.
"Anonymous said…[Reply] I met face to face on 1/26/12 with staff members of Congressman Patrick Meehan (Springfield, Pa. ) in their office on Sproul Rd. I will send you the follow up letter that I sent on this entire lawlessness by the Democratic Party & Barry Soetoro. At that time, the Georgia court hearing and ALL the IRREFUTEABLE evidence was in play in Ga. Mr. Meehan & staff have copies of several articles by experts, validating the evidence, but worrying about the corrupted judicial process here in the former USA. I will be following up shortly-- as a former prosecutor, I am confident that Mr. Meehan will stand "shoulder to shoulder" with true American Patriots in order to CURE the DISEASE known as OBAMA. Good job Mr. Kerchner. Mr. G. Khan February 19, 2012 5:20 PM"
Ooookay.
"bn said…[Reply] I think this one has the best chance yet. Serious, respected people and no Orly. February 19, 2012 6:03 PM"
With plaintiffs and arguments that have failed time and time again.
19 February - *chuckle*
"The Triumvirate of Birtherstan estimates that you are not donating enough to sustain their futile efforts at removing a duly vetted and elected President. They commit sedition at every defeat for advocating harassment and/or violence towards Judges, clerks,other government officials, and even private citizens. Accusing governmental officials when decisions do not go your way of "corruption" "treason" and "making love out of season" or denigrating the President as a "thug" does little to advance your deluded cause."
20 February - At the Pest and eFail, birther and "Oath Keeper" Hector Maldonado gets upset that the Missouri Elections Committee wouldn't let him go de Vattelist.
"The Military cannot win this war. And be not mistaken, Barack Obama has declared war on the American way of life. Politicians continue to say they just don’t understand why Barack Obama can’t see that his policies are failing. The problem is he does see the effects. And for Obama, things are going according to plan. His plan is to fundamentally transform America and pillage her wealth, destroy her economy and create a dependency of the middle class. Please join us. He has called us his enemies. It’s now our fight. Godspeed."
Sedition much??
20 February - Even though she was told "no, you can't have Pro Hac Vice, not yours". Dr. Orly decided to continue her part of the Georgia Birther Ballot Jihad. (malware and redirect warning)
"Petition for Letters Rogatory was filed with Judge Wright Fulton County Superior Court
Posted on | February 20, 2012"
(Scribd link here)
"Dr. Orly Taitz ESQ (Hereinafler Taitz) represented plaintiffs in this case in the administrative court and was granted pro had vice right to represent the Plaintiffs without a signature of a GA attorney, as is usually the case when an out of state attomey represents indigent plaintiffs pro bono and the underlying complaint relates to violations of civil rights."
And I suspect that, after reviewing your appearance in that case, the judge didn't want to get taitz all over the courtroom.
"It is apparent, though, that this court places form over substance and found the need for a local attomey to co-sign the pleadings to be more important than the underlying issue of the most egregious violation of human rights and civil rights in the history of this nation, namely Barack Obama's (Hereinafter "Obama") lack of any valid identification papers and his use of a stolen Social Security number and his practice of posting a computer generated forgery on line as a basis and documentary legitimation of his presidency and a 2012 presidential run."
The angels cough up more blood.
And I'm sure will be impressed by your temper tantrum on "how DARE you tell me no! Screech!!!"
"As such, in the absence of the pro had vice authorization from this court, and lack of local attomeys with enough strength of character to take on the issue of egregious criminality committed by the sitting President, Taitz advised the plaintiffs to proceed pro se. Taitz. herself. proceeds pro se for a limited purpose of seek ins Letters Rogatorv from this court to the First Circuit court of HI and DC court."
Insult the local legal establishment and then make demands so you can go harass people in DC and Hawaii.
That will go over well.
"Judge Malihi was asked to simply request assistance from a fellow judge in Hawaii with jurisdiction over Fuddy. Judge Malihi was either not understanding, what was requested or he was intentionally shielding Obama."
At this point, one is almost hoping she gets PHV status so that the judge can sanction her happy ass.
"Without any identification papers to show for, in violation of subpoena, Malihi had to rule against Obama. Tailz put on the stand 7 highly qualified witnesses, showing Obama using a stolen Social Security number and a forged birth certificate, not having any valid identification papers. Malihi, who was supposed to rule based on precedent and facts, did the opposite, totally disregarded precedents and facts and for yet to be determined consideration and without one shred of evidence "assumed" that Obama is eligible to be on the ballot."
Actually he had all the evidence your "experts" provided. And didn't believe any of them.
"For yet to be determined consideration secretary of state Kemp rubber stamped Malihi's decision."
Wow. She just accused the Georgia Secretary of State of accepting a bribe.
"If this court sends letters rogatory to the First Circuit court in Hawaii and the Superior Court in the District of Columbia, such best evidence can be obtained. It is imperative for this court to send Letters Rogatory to the First Circuit court of Hawaii, seeking subpoena for the Director of Health of the state of Hawaii to produce for inspection the original 1961 long form birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, which he claims exists. It is imperative for this court io send a letter rogatory to the Superior court of the District of Columbia asking for their assistance in issuing a subpoena for immigration and passport records for Barack Obama aka Barack(Barry) Soetoro aka Barack(Barry) Soebarkah,"
How does "when pigs fly" work for you?
"NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS
Taitz does not have access to all of the background information, and is not making an accusation or definitive allegation"
In other words, Dr. Orly is about to pull stuff out of her ass.
"a. When Malihi had Obama cornered with subpoena to appear at trial and present his identification records, it was clear that Obama had nothing to show and desperate Obama would do anything to keep his position and stay out of prison."
You mean that improper "subpoena" you issued??
"c. Malihi's background appeax to show, that he is an Iranian Muslim. While the administrative court of Georgia shows lengthy bios of other judges, there is only a blank page as a background ofJudge Malihi."
Ah, Dr. Orly is letting her racist freak flag fly.
"d. After Obama did not even show up at trial and did not provide any documents to prove his eligibility, while Taitz brought multiple witnesses, who provided the most incriminating evidence against Obama, inexplicably Malihi ruled that Obama can be on the ballot."
Because none of your "witnesses" were credible.
She really is losing her mind.
20 February - The Pest and eFail have an update on Walter Fitzpatrick.
"The system that they have here is not found in our constitution. This is treason writ large, and now we have everything that we need to demonstrate, in writing, using their documents, the “new model” that is being used in the state of Tennessee to accuse people, prosecute and convict them as innocent people."
See earlier comments about Fitzpatrick's inability to accept responsibility for his actions.
20 February - Dr. Orly continues to have problems with her Yahoo. (malware and redirect warning)
"I discovered more hacking.
someone entered from moderation into the blog a lot of Obot garbage and disinformation. On the other hand a lot of my e-mails disappeared and were never received, when sent from my yahoo and gmail accounts"
I will note that Adobe Illustrator Chico Papa happens to be Dr. Orly's IT technician. Doesn't speak much for his skills in IT if he can't keep her site and her Yahoo cleaned up.
20 February - Squeeky Fromm decides to provide a handy PDF for birthers to do their own court dismissals.
(PDF here)
"2. Attached to this Motion is Exhibit 1, which is an original FILE MARKED COPY of
the COMPLAINT that was filed.
3. So, I did too STATE A CLAIM and I put it in writing and everything!!! If somebody
says I didn’t state a claim, then they are just lying like a dirty dog!!!"
20 February - Gary Nance aka "Borderraven" takes a break from his hobby of taking videos of young girls at the beach to come up with a brand new twist on the de Vattelist nuttiness.
(Scribd link here)
In a nutshell, Nance argues that it's not enough to have two US citizen parents. Instead, in an ode to the Blut und Boden of the 1930's and 40's, one must be born of two US citizen parents who were born in the US. Foreign-born grandparents are okay, has long as they had the decency to become naturalized US citizens before giving birth to children on US soil.
This ranks up there with Padawan Paul's Sacred Sperm of US Citizenship theory.
@ Patty
Ah! It's the lastest edition of 'Dancing With The 0b0ts'. You now perform your infamous 'McKinnion Shuffle' to obscure reality.
Your claim is the forums of World Net Daily, Canada Free Press, and The Post & Email "show utter contempt towards the Constitution, their fellow citizens, and every single moral and legal principle this country was founded on".
It's funny, that in over 10 years of reading articles by their writers, I've never seen what you're claiming.
Are you confusing the forums with their writers? It's a known fact that the 0b0ts have continuously, over the last 4 years, infiltrated those forums to spew hatred against those that write in support of America's founding principles and rule of law. Usually they end their unAmerican rantings inferring "you're a racist if you don't support 0bumm0".
Show me an article by a WorldNetDaily writer that is doing what you're claiming?
Posted by: Rambo Ike | February 28, 2012 at 06:47 AM
"Rambo Ike" - So you haven't seen any unconstitutional or racist comments in any of those, and if there are, they're all done by "obots" infiltrating those forums, is that what you're saying.
Well lets see. Last fall you had Larry Klayman calling for a march and revolt on Washington - which was printed in in WND. Both Canada Free Press and Post and eMail had Lawrence Sellin and his calls for military coups and armed overthrow of the government. The Post and eMail also gave Gordon Epperly a forum to promote his belief that Aftican-Americans are only "14th Amendment citizens" and therefore are unable to be "natural born citizens". And you've got Mark McGrew in Pravda OnLine who's not just called for military coups, but for foreign governments to invade the United States and overthrow the government.
That's just off the top of my head.
Which isn't counting all the times I've seen the commenters calling for governmental overthrow, assassination, military coups, military juntas, and other "remedies" not found in the Constitution. I've seen both writers and commenters in those forums calling for restrictions on freedom of speech (if they don't agree with what the other person is saying), freedom of religion (if they don't believe in the other person's religion), and even that people they don't agree with sound be banned from owning firearms. The Post and Mail in particular has a writer who routinely calls for people of certain religions to be stripped of citizenship and deported - even if they were born in this country and have served his country's military honorably.
It's more than a bit intellectually dishonest to suggest that all of those people are "infiltrators", eh??
Posted by: Patrick McKinnion | February 28, 2012 at 07:51 AM
@ Patty
I see I have that 1 question backasswards. Should read: Are you confusing the writers with the comments in their respective forums?
I can honestly say I haven't seen any writer from the 3 sites I listed that even showed hints regarding the accusations you're making. Why would they when the majority of their articles are about honoring and defending those Freedom Charters; America's founding principles & laws.
The racist stuff is another matter. After a good amount of time being accused of being a racist for not supporting 0bumm0, some of them [myself included] hit back, mostly via taunting, with similar derogatory remarks. It did not matter if you've never supported a DemoRat, don't believe his Immaculate Birth Deception, or the really BIG ONE; repulsed at his lifelong associations with the farleft [american hating commies, socialists, marxist, and muslims]. To the 0b0ts it had to be about his skin color - nothing else mattered to them.
Is that 'forum restrictions' due to the vile and racist language? I'm assuming you're referring to OPOVV as the one wanting to deport muslims. Actually he's being a softie on it. My list includes many others - around 20 million - besides the muslims who need to be tossed out of our country. And, some of them who committed capital crimes [Fort Hood comes to mind] need to be executed. My preferred style for the muslims is their head on the Chopping Block. Instead of Jihad, you, as an 0b0t, probably see Fort Hood, and rolling grenades into tents killing American troops, as a work place crimes. Only exception I'd make are those muslims, now called infidels, who have truly denounced Islam, and see it as one of the world's modern day evils.
Going on the assumption you're telling the truth on the other 4 you listed: I agree with both Klayman & Sellin, except for the part of a military coup on government. McGrew is in LaLaLand, pay no attention to that nonsense. Epperly, who I've never seen post, is a complete idiot. The truth: Blacks were just as much citizens as whites starting with America's founding. The 14th Amendment was never needed. See Ben Franklin's self-evident truths.
It's really showing of your hypocrisy to point the finger at patriotic sites when you and your flock of 0b0ts have run cover for and supported 0bumm0 & his marxist mafia's CommieSocialist agenda for America. It sure looks like a MELTS Society operating in the Bad Fiction forum.
Posted by: Rambo Ike | February 29, 2012 at 06:08 AM
"Rambo Ike" - I was talking directly about the writers themselves. The comments are an entirely different kettle of fish.
All I will say about Fort Hood is that I hope the shooter gets a fair trial under the UCMJ. And receives the appropriate penalty for his actions. And yes, that includes the death penalty when he's found guilty. I believe he dishonored his rank and uniform, and should pay the cost. As I believe should be applied to anyone in the military who performs such actions.
Anyone in the military. Of any belief or religion. Period.
20 million of your fellow citizens eh? Quite the little list. Other than "people who don't believe the same as I do", who else gets thrown under the bus for the thoughtcrime of unrambothink??
Not that it matters, because the fact you have so little regard for your fellow citizens or the Constitution and the rights within that document speaks volumes. No wonder you have such a de Vattel fetish, since de Vattel favored restrictions on freedom of speech, freedom of belief, freedom of religion, and freedom of the press (not to mention the right to carry arms for that matter).
One slight problem with your claim that "Blacks were just as much citizens as whites starting with America's founding". In slave-owning states, a child took the status of the mother - which means they were slaves as well no matter what race the father was. Even in free states, black citizens faced barriers to association, employment, housing, education, among others. After the Civil War, the 14th amendment was needed to confirm that all born in this country had the same rights no matter what their race - not to mention correcting the wrong that had been done in Scott v Sanford.
You can call it "hypocrisy" all you want. I simply have no tolerance to see people claim to be patriots and wrap themselves in the flag, while at the same time taking a piss on the Constitution and ever principal this country stands for
Posted by: Patrick McKinnion | February 29, 2012 at 07:54 AM
@ Patty
Laughing at your silliness. How lame! You might be talking about the writers themselves, but those accusations still do not fit the 3 sites I listed. If by "fellow citizens" you mean those who have been involved politically, then yes, but still, extremely mild compared to what has spewed from Leftist writers.
Yeah, I'm for a fair trial for the jihad doctor followed by the chopping block.
Did I say 20 million citizens? Read it again.
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"One slight problem with your claim that "Blacks were just as much citizens as whites starting with America's founding".
You're speaking of what the man-made positive laws did. I was talking the Natural Law of America's founding in The Declaration that didn't discriminate.
The Declaration's self-evident truths: all men are created equal with unalienable Rights [life & liberty] inherited from God our Creator that can't be taken away by the positive law. Under God's Law all are born equally with the same rights. The evil was the colonist not honoring their founding creed. Some use the term 'men' to exclude women - I see it as all human beings
Something to ponder: The term 'men' used singular as 'man' or 'mann' in older versions of english was used also at times to mean humankind [I've gotten arguments on that]. Thus all equally born with the same rights.
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"...taking a piss on the Constitution and every principle this country stands for."
You just described what I have watched for more than a decade coming from the left side of the political aisle.
Posted by: Rambo Ike | March 01, 2012 at 05:19 PM