Dispatches from Birtherstan - 26-27 April 2012

In today's dispatches, Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi writes about an upcoming film that is just full of moldy oldie birther myths, provoking moldy oldie anti-semite Andy Martin to chime in. Dr. Orly throws a tantrum about her Mississippi Birther Ballot Jihad getting moved to federal court. Dr. Kate warns the GOP that it better be Ron Paul or else!

World Nut Daily floats another idea to part the birthers from their money. They also try and spin Van Irion's smack down in Tennessee into a victory parade. Both the Mississippi Democratic Party and the Mississippi Secretary of State give their opinion about the pile of legal taitz Dr. Orly filed. Meanwhile, Dr. Orly threatens California state officials, and gets all paranoid and melodramatic.

Happy weekend people.

25 April - Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi's latest pile of dingo droppings is pimping an upcoming "film" by right-wing film director Joel Gilbert, "Dreams from My Real Father"

And right out of the gate, we have Gilbert repeating the favorite claim of anti-semitic internet outhouse Andy Martin. Namely that Obama's "real" father was Frank Marshall Davis.

"Gilbert rejects the official story that the Kenyan-born Barack Obama was the president’s father.

Instead, he argues, Frank Marshall Davis, the radical poet and journalist who was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA, was the real, biological and ideological father of Barack Obama.

“I decided to investigate Frank Marshall Davis. His close physical resemblance to Obama was shocking, while Obama little resembled the Kenyan Obama,” Gilbert said. “How could this be?”"

But the warmed over commie-baiting isn't the only old hooey in this film. Remember the long-since debunked claim about nude pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham?? Well, they use that one too.

"Gilbert’s research turned shocking when he obtained seven indecent photos of Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother, at Frank Marshall Davis’ house, suggesting an intimate connection between Dunham and Davis.

“I was not happy to include these racy photos in the film but found it necessary to substantiate the intimate relationship between the two,” he said. “Those photos ended up in a men’s mail-order catalog of nude women, likely sold to them by Davis. I placed black bars on parts of the photos to be respectful.”

"Respectful", eh?? Right…….. By "not happy", I suspect Gilbert was really saying he was peeing his pants with glee at the very idea of using those pictures.

And just to round things up, he also uses that old debunked claim that the Dunham family lived in Lebanon for a while.

Everything old is still dumb again.

25 April - Dr. Orly is a bit annoyed that her Mississippi Birther Ballot Jihad got booted into federal court.

(Scribd link here)

"NOTICE OF AN IMPROPER ATTEMPT BY THE DEFENDANT TO REMOVE THE CASETO THE FEDERAL COURT, WHILE IT IS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE SUPREME COURT OF MISSISSIPPI.

DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION OF UNLAWFUL PROCEEDINGS IN THE FEDERAL COURT.

DEMAND FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST THE DEFENDANT SECRETARY OF STATE AND DEFENDANTS ATTORNEY"

And that's just the title.

"Defendant Secretary of State of Mississippi by and through his attorney Attorney General of Mississippi Democrat Jim Hood simply attempted an illegal maneuvering in order to bring the case into a friendly territory"

Says the woman who has been judge-shopping since 2009 to try and find a judge stupid or dishonest enough to believe her tripe.

"Plaintiffs never consented to the jurisdiction of the Federal Court. As the defendant is an individual occupying the position of the President of the UnitedStates, there is an inherent bias against the Plaintiffs in the federal court system,particularly considering the fact that the evidence shows that Defendant Obama is using forged documents as a basis of his eligibility to the US Presidency ."

Translation - "Plaintiff objects due to having had her ass handed to her in federal court on more than one occasion"

"Federal cause of action, namely RICO, cited by the Defendant in his notice of removal, does not even relate to this particular defendant and he has no standing to even raise this issue as a reason for removal. First Amended complaint clearly states that RICO cause of action does not relate to the Secretary of State."

You were the one who dragged a RICO claim into this.

"The complaint at hand revolves around irrefutable evidence showing defendantBarack Hussein Obama using a computer generated forgery and a stolen SocialSecurity number as a basis of his eligibility for the US Presidency"

I didn't know "irrefutable" meant "long since debunked"

"Cc all parties in the case
Cc Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Mississippi, Justice Jesse Dickenson
Cc Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals
Cc Justice Antonin Scalia, in charge of the 5th Circuit court of Appeals
Cc Office of the inspector General of the Department of Justice
Cc Public Integrity Unit Department of Justice
Cc InterAmerican court for Human rights
Cc Civil Rights defenders Commission United Nations
Cc House committee on the Judiciary Chairman Congressman Lamar Smith
Cc House oversight Committee Chairman Congressman Darrel Issa"

Is there anyone other than the Wizard of Oz she DIDN'T send this steaming pile of taitz to??

25 April - The inmates at Birther Report chime in on Joel Gilbert's rehashed old birther lies.

"Anonymous said…[Reply] hoodlum punks human garbage f them all April 25, 2012 8:43 PM"

Short, racist, and to the point.

"Ed K said…[Reply] it seems like there are a lot more connections to Davis than X. zerO looks a lot like his white grandfather, look at the photo at the beach when he was 2 or 3. gramps looks like a white zerO. If Moochele let him eat some more fried chicken, he would look a lot like davis. his eyes are a perfect match. April 26, 2012 4:51 AM"

"Fried chicken", eh?? What, no watermelon?

"Anonymous said…[Reply] Frank Marshall Davis?? Malcolm X?? Seriously??

This is why so many people see anyone who questions his citizenship as a joke.Making all these wild accusations DOESN'T make Obama look worse; it makes US look like we're a bunch of crazies who are so dumb we'll believe anything.
April 26, 2012 12:25 PM"

Which isn't helped by the fact you ARE a bunch of crazies who are so dumb you'll believe anything.

26 April - So who is stupid enough to actually believe anything that "Sorcha Faal" writes??

Why, Dr. Kate of course!!

And No-nonsense nancy actually says something that makes sense:

"no-nonsense-nancy
April 26, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Jane, I gave up trying to figure Lame Cherry out. I have no idea who baby is. I read it just about every day but sometimes it doesn’t make much sense to me."

26 April - Dr. Kate warns the GOP that they better not even think of nominating Mitt Romney. And that goes double for Sen. Marco Rubio or Bobby Jindal either!

"You have failed to listen to the rank and file republicans, and potential cross-over voters by marginalizing and discrediting Ron Paul, who is the only candidate who is winning a head-to-head match up against Obama. And you can’t forget that Romney Care is the precursor to Obamacare, giving you Obama’s dream debate"

"Wahhh! Only Ron Paul will save us!! Wahhh!!" (never mind that Rep. Paul hasn't touched the birther blather with a ten-foot pole.)

As for Rubio and Jindal

"Marco’s parents were not US citizens when he was born. If you nominate the ineligible Rubio, how different are you than the usurper Obama?"

"Jindal. His parents were not U.S. citizens when he was born, and he is not a natural born citizen. What deal did he make with Obama on the Gulf BP oil spill? How has he compromised his state to ‘get along’?"

Jeb Bush also gets the boot:

" Daddy bush, the grand master behind it all, ushered in the NWO, the CIA (formerly the SS), was present at all the political assassinations in the last 30 years, and still controls the game. Bush Sr and Romney are best buddies. Who do you think chose Romney for 2012?"

26 April - And anti-semitic internet outhouse Andy Martin has some mixed feelings about Corsi and Gilbert using his pet theory.

"To be entirety clear and precise, I consider Jerry Corsi a friend. But we are friendly competitors. We do not share research and we compete for Obama information. "

Why do I suspect Corsi doesn't know Martin that well??

"I have not seen Joel Gilbert’s film nor do have any direct link to the film. (As I told MSNBC’s Chris Hayes in 2007, all Obama research stems from my original research.) I am generally aware that “indecent” photos of the president’s mother have been linked to Frank Marshall Davis but I have chosen to avoid some topics involving Obama’s mother such as the sex photos."

Umm, Martin?? I find that hard to believe, considering that on 24 July 2008, you wrote:

"His mother was promiscuous and had a child out of wedlock, in 1961, when that was still scandalous behavior. "

I think you're just mad you didn't think of it first.

26 April - Dr. Orly gets all threaty in California, and Secretary of State Debra Bowen and Attorney General Kamala Harris are the ones getting her nastygram. (malware and redirect warning)

(Redaction and bold face mine)

"Dear Secretary of State and attorney General this is an official notification of use by candidate Barack Hussein Obama of a forged birth certificate and a stolen CT SSN (redacted). See evidence attached. Demand is made herein for you to remove Barack Obama from the ballot and commence a criminal action against him for elections fraud and use of forged identification papers as a basis of his eligibility. If no action will be taken within 30 days, you may be added as an additional defendant in the attached RICO action."

I am not a lawyer, but it looks to me like some form of attempted legal extortion or threat against elected officials for the State of California.

Wonder if that's going to be her next tactic - fake RICO lawsuits against SoS and AG's for all 50 states, for allowing that scary black man on the ballot?

26 April - World Nut Daily wants all the good little birtherstani to tell Congress all about what Corsi told Joe Arpaio about Obama.

If you think this means "Hey look, another unverifiable World Nut Daily petition", go give yourself a cookie.

26 April - The birthers have always been good at spinning a claimed victory from their usual defeat, but World Nut Daily shows a prime example.

Now if you remember, the US District Court in Tennessee told Van Irion "no, you can't have state court, not yours", in a 12 page smack down that, among other things, blew out of the water Van Irion's tactic of suing fake or defunct organizations. There was one section that stood out:

"However, the other factors suggest that the issue of whether President Obama is constitutionally qualified to run for the Presidency is certainly substantial. First, the Court finds that the federal question presented, the meaning of the phrase “natural born citizen” as a qualification for he Presidency set out in Article II of the Constitution, is important and not trivial. The Court finds it self-evident that an individual’s ability to meet the constitutional qualifications to serve as President of the United States, particularly where the individual already holds the office, ranks asa “significant federal issue.” Second, the Court finds that resolution of this federal issue will resolve the case. As previously discussed, Plaintiffs have “staked their claim” on the issue of whether President Obama can satisfy the constitutional requirements for the office. Finally, the outcome of the federal question in this case will certainly have an effect on other cases presenting the same issue about whether President Obama meets the constitutional qualifications for the Presidency. This specific question has been raised in numerous lawsuits filed since President Obama took office. (19) Under the circumstances, there is a risk of inconsistent adjudications on the federal issue presented.Taken together, these factors establish that the federal issue in this case is substantial.

Footnote 19 said:

" 19 Defendants have cited many of these decisions in their memorandum in support of their motion to dismiss pursuant to Rule 12(b)(1) and Rule 12(b)(6). See Defs.’ Mem. in SupportMot. Dismiss 7–8 (D.E. # 5)"

These were the same sections that John Dummett (pronounced duh-fus) were claiming as a victory. Which is weird, because the judge is clearly stating that the burden of proof for such lies upon the accuser, and that the judge's decision will have the effect of defining "Natural Born Citizen" at the federal level, which will effect the other birther cases.

In other words, the judge is going "do you really WANT to shoot yourself in the foot in this fashion??"

However, never put it past World Nut Daily or other birthers to misstate, claim a victory when none exists, or outright lie.

"U.S. District Judge S. Thomas Anderson of Tennessee said the courts ultimately must define “natural born citizen,” affirming that the “issue of whether President Obama is constitutionally qualified to run for the presidency is certainly substantial.”

“This specific question has been raised in numerous lawsuits filed since President Obama took office,” Anderson wrote in his opinion. “The outcome of the federal question in this case will certainly have an effect on other cases presenting the same issue about whether President Obama meets the constitutional qualifications for the presidency.”

Van Irion, whose Liberty Legal Foundation brought the case, alleges the plan by Tennessee Democrats to register Obama as their nominee for president opens a case, under state law, of negligent misrepresentation and fraud or intentional misrepresentation because of doubts about Obama’s eligibility."

"It IS a victory! It is it is it is!!!"

Oh, and looky in comments:

"Michael Miserable_M:

The majority of us citizens WILL BE the armed revolution against the fraudulently elected government, if this phony fraud steals the next election. I don't think there are too many LEGAL gun owners out there with Obama 2012 stickers on their car.

The majority of gun owners ARE what you call the "fringe movement". You got that all upside down. That's the problem with Obots, they think up is down and down is up.

A vast majority of US military members despise Obama.

I wasn't threatening anybody, never mind you, just responding to a previous poster.. So take a hike. Trust me, you wouldn't want a confrontation with me, of any sort.

5 minutes ago"

What an amusing mix of threats, calls for revolt, and coy hints at a military coup.

BTW, I'm a legal gun owner. Cope.

"HinkleDrywall We are the Constitutionally backed majority. They are the domestic enemy. Less than 1% and 200 million guns in America will resolve the issue. The American Revolution was fought and won by a small percentage while most colonialists were sidelined in fear. Obama relishes seeing all the citizens argue while the sold out Senate, Congress, States, Courts, and Federal agencies stand down.

1 hour ago"

"HinkleDrywall

"I am interested to see what Birthers are going to do….."

Stand our ground with force and growing numbers. Take back our God given rights of birth in America under the Constitution. Be willing to die for our neighbors rights and freedom if necessary. Ask our brothers and sisters in this cause to stand shoulder to shoulder, Minute Men, against an evil marxist regime. Ask the good citizens of the Republic to try those Washington traitors for treason. Ask the military to assist in defending and uphold the Constitution.
Our rights do not come from the courts. Voting may not resolve this. Numbers and force insisting the Constitution is followed may be the only way. Courts, States, and Federal agencies are all silent. Congress and Senate are sold out criminal traitors. Long live the Constitution for the sake of our children. Most citizens will opt to support the Constitution over the status quo regime when decision time arrives.

1 hour ago"

Oh look, more calls for armed revolt and military coups.

"Honorable12
The gloves are going to come off and a serious game of brinkmanship is about to begin. People need to be careful F#$%ing with real American patriots. Reminds me of the tree of Liberty :-)
Man this is going to be fun !

1 hour"

"Armed revolt of our democratically elected government is fun!! Wheee!!!"

"Honorable12
The_Magic_Negro strikes again. You and your ilk Lost, are losing and will Lose, period. Get over it. You are a racist precisely because you refuse to see ANY truth regarding your Super Negro that can do no wrong. Once this 'problem' is solved, at it WILL be solved, it will not be allowed to happen again, and you and your kind will be driven deep into the holes from which you came.

1 hour ago"

Not to mention blatant racism.

26 April - And, of course, the inmates at Birther Report are all over World Nut Daily's spin of Van Irion's case.

(Bold face mine)

"Anonymous said…[Reply] I recall some right-wingers taking care of business in some South American country two or three decades ago. Was it El Salvador? If so, was in response to this kind of Marxist takeover of our country? If so, then maybe there's a lesson to be learned. April 26, 2012 10:40 PM"

Ah, nothing spells "patriot" more than calling for an anti-Constitutional coup.

"Bob M. from Ohio said…[Reply]
It's because of 2 things that the republicans won't act: 1. Everybody is correct, they are treasonous, cowardly, self serving, bribed, lying duplicitous bastards. 2. They want to do the same thing with the republican ticket, quid pro quo my usurper for yours and we're even. What do we get? The loss of our Constitution, nation and liberty by consensus. Every person in this nation who has sworn an oath to protect and defend this Constitution and has remained silent: past presidents,senators, congressman,judges at all levels, military leaders, governors, federal and state law enforcement, etc. etc. that has not spoken out and not fought this fight must not ever be trusted again, they must be permanently removed or voted out and prosecuted: pensions taken and many with jail time as felons with loss of voting privileges and some the ultimate penalty for high treason, say about the top 666 as I add them up, I just think the number fits ironically when I start adding. If you deduct 535 you'll see I'm close. It covers 2 sessions and 2 administrations, now throw in Carter, Bush Sr. Clinton and the court and so on I easily get that with some to add. When we're done we have to deal with the cowards and traitors in the press and media we'll poke them with sticks too. But let's start with the republicans first, they're the pricks been shinning our asses, eating our cake and pissing in our shoes. Lets get them first. Why are these Occupy punks out in our streets attempting to end our nation yet we aren't in the streets saving it from the usurpers? I'm ready, name the time, I know where the criminals are. Let's go and show our solidarity and singular voice. Let's go occupy Washington D.C. and not leave till this is over. At least the place would be left clean.
April 26, 2012 11:03 PM"

Whereas some just want mass executions and gulags for anyone ever that they don't like.

"Anonymous said…[Reply]

…THE ONLY WAY OBAMA WILL BE OFF THE BALLOT IS THE 25TH AMENDMENT OR A CRIMINAL ARREST.

Anyone want to volunteer for a citizen's arrest?
April 27, 2012 2:37 AM"

Let us know how that works out for you, skippy.

27 April - The Mississippi Democratic Party gives their three cents about Dr. Orly's first amended complaint.

(Scribd link here)

27 April - Paranoid much Dr. Orly?? (malware and redirect warning)

(Bold face mine)

"IMPORTANT UPDATE. ANSWER TO RICO WAS FILED BY THE AG OF MS, DISCOVERY IS ON THE WAY. THERE ARE 100 JANE DOES AS DEFENDANTS, WHO COULD BE YOUR SECS OF STATE, AGS, US ATTORNEYS, CONGRESSMEN AND OTHERS WHO WERE COMPLICIT IN THIS RICO. LET ME KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ITERVENER. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME, I WANT THE CASE TO GO ON.
Posted on | April 27, 2012"

Paranoid and overdramatic.

"He jumped when RICO was filed. It is also interesting that an eligibility case was sitting in TN for half a year since November. Nobody rushed the case. Suddenly, as I filed the RICO causes of action, the presiding judge in TN denied a motion by the attorney on that case to remand the case to the state court, saying that eligibility is an important federal question and he wants to hear it.

Please… Give me a break. Even a child can see that it is a decoy. They would rather present the case as something theoretical and dismiss it based on weighing in some theoretical precedences, rather than deal with RICO, which threatens Obama, Pelosi, Fuddy and others with a lengthy prison term due to flagrant forgery of documents or possibly death penalty for treason and aiding and abetting the usurpation of the US presidency. This is the hot button and anyone with a half a brain in his head understands it."

Ah, she's still having wet dreams about the gallows.

And while people with half a brain may understand what you're saying, people with more than half understand that you're full of bovine byproducts.

"It is very important to me that if somebody tries something funny and something happens to me, the case goes on."

Boy, you ARE a drama queen, aren't you?

" I specifically inserted in the first amended complaint 100 Jane Does and John Does. It means that there a 100 accomplices that can be added and John does simply hold the space for a named plaintiff."

So basically she reserved a place for anyone who annoys her or tells her "no".

"That is enough space to add 50 corrupt Secretaries of State and 50 corrupt Attorney Generals or other officials. You saw the notification that I sent today with the pleadings and the DVD of my trial in GA and Arpaio’s press conference to my Sec of State Deborah Bowen and alter maker Willie Brown’s hottie, my AG Kamela Harris. If they do not act and do not save their sorry butts, they will be among named defendants."

1) Yeah, it looks like the fake RICO lawsuits is going to be her next legal stunt.
2) What the hell is an "alter kaker"??
3) Can these Secretary of States' and Attorney Generals PLEASE report her ass to the all-but-nonexistant ethics board for the California Bar???

27 April - The Mississippi Secretary of State files a motion to dismiss and a motion for judgement on the pleadings in regards to Dr. Orly's Mississippi Birther Ballot Jihad.

(Scribd link here)

They also provide a 30 page memorandum to support their position:

(Scribd link here)

"Lead Plaintiff Orly Taitz is a California attorney and apparent United States Senate candidate whose notoriety is derived in part by her numerous unsuccessful lawsuits over the past four years in which she, as an attorney or party, has alleged that Barack Obama is not eligible to hold the office of the President of the United States.1 In February 2012, Taitz imported her failed arguments to Mississippi by filing this action against the Mississippi Secretary of State and the Mississippi Democratic Party, initially under Mississippi Code 23-15-961, as a putative challenge to President Obama’s qualifications and seeking his removal from the Mississippi’s Democratic presidential preference primary ballot. The original complaint was untimely filed and thus jurisdictionally defective, failed to state a claim, and otherwise deficient in many other respects."

That's just the first paragraph. And to further underscore things, footnote 1:

"1 A list of more than 100 known lawsuits challenging or related to President Obama’s eligibility to be President, including approximately 50 rejected by federal courts, is affixed hereto as Exhibit “A.” Taitz has appeared as an attorney or party in many of the cases. None of her cases, or any other case challenging President Obama’s eligibility, has ever been successful."

Not to mention footnotes 2 and 3:

"2 Taitz filed the original complaint as a pro se plaintiff. No licensed Mississippi attorney has appeared in this action on her behalf.

3 The additional issues raised by Taitz and the Mississippi Democratic Party included motions for sanctions, charges of barratry, and efforts by Taitz to conduct discovery including issuance of subpoenas to various out-of-state parties for depositions and documents."

Just to underscore Dr. Orly's legal bat guano.

"On or about April 14, 2012, Taitz served the Secretary of State and the Mississippi Democratic Party with a First Amended Complaint by mail. The First Amended Complaint repeated Taitz’s original claim based on Section 23-15-961. [See First Amended Complaint, Exhibit “A” to Docket No. 1]. It also (1) added new plaintiffs including Brian Fedorka, Laurie Roth, Leah Lax and Tom MacLeran,4 (2) added new defendants including President Obama, Obama for America, Nanci Pelosi, Dr. Alvin Onaka, Loretta Fuddy, and Michael Astrue, (3) included a new claim against the Secretary of State and the Mississippi Democratic Party based on Section 23-15-963 seeking to have President Obama removed from the Mississippi general election ballot in November 2012, and (4) included a new federal RICO claim asserted against the Mississippi Democratic Party and the new defendants."

"4 The First Amended Complaint does not clearly indicate whether the new plaintiffs intend to proceed pro se or whether they consider themselves represented by Taitz. As of this writing, no attorney licensed to practice law in Mississippi has entered an appearance on their behalf."

Sounds like someone is being set up for a "practicing law without a license in that state" charge.

"The conclusion that Mississippi’s statute regarding presidential primary ballots does not authorize the Secretary of State to examine the qualifications of a “generally recognized” candidate is supported by a California court’s interpretation of that state’s materially identical statutory language. In Keyes v. Bowen, 189 Cal.App.4th 647 (Cal.App. 3 Dist. 2010), a case in which Plaintiff Taitz participated, and lost, the court affirmed the dismissal of a mandamus action against the California Secretary of State seeking to remove then candidate Barack Obama from the primary ballot. California’s statute required the Secretary of State to “place the name of a candidate upon the presidential primary ballot when he or she has determined that the candidate is generally advocated for or recognized throughout the United States or California as actively seeking the nomination of the Democratic Party for President of the United States. . ..”

Don't you love how Dr. Orly's case history is at times her own worst enemy??

Comments

[Another Patrick]

I am an Obama supporter. I carry a gun, and have magazines loaded. (Legally locked up, of course, until I need it.)

I guarantee you that there are Obama supporters out here who are armed, and ready for you yahoos who think you want your armed revolt. So let's keep it at the ballot box, okay?

[Bob]

Ahh, poor Orly. The sweet little thing was scared of being deposed.

[MTinMO]

I don't know where these fools get their ideas that the only legal gun owners are birthers. I have been shooting all my life and started hunting as soon as I was legally old enough to do so. I may no longer hunt, but that doesn't mean I am not still a legal gun owner. I certainly don't fit the birther meme either. Nor do I believe the legally elected government should be overthrown- as these birthers seem to think. I think they would be surprised at how many would come out to stand against them if they try to violently overthrow the government in DC. They are the enemy if they rise against our government and I do believe they will find themselves in a minority.

The claims that some want to make about the actual parentage of the president confuse me. It seems to me that the alternate fathers they have claimed- Malcolm X and Frank Davis, were both US citizens. So for those that claim it is necessary to have two US citizen parents, Malcolm X and Frank Davis would fill the bill. Trying to discredit the president due to the beliefs of either man doesn't really work. Many children grow to have different lifestyle, religious and political beliefs than their parents. I certainly do. My parents were die-hard Republicans and I have never been one of those. So these claims are confusing and seem to be contrary to their argument that the president isn't eligible to be president.

I would also like to thank you, Patrick McKinnion, for your efforts to keep us informed about the goings on in birther world. I don't know how you manage to keep up with it all; I can't even get through my inbox in a day. But having your blog putting everything together that I can read and feel like I have been updated sufficiently really helps. I hope to be able to add financial support in the near future, but in the meantime, my thanks will have to suffice.

[Peter Herman]

Funny, but Romney has actually signed gun control legislation. Obama, on the other hand, never has, and he has stated on several occasions his support for the right to keep and bear arms.

So guess which one the NRA will support?

[Norbrookc]

I always love how these idiots claim that the "military despises Obama," without any ... data ... to back them up. Beyond "I pulled something out of my ass, and called it proof." Reality? I'm sure there are some, just as there are some throughout history who despised the President that was in office at that time. It doesn't mean that they're going to plot to overthrow the government, in fact, would probably happily shoot the idiots who decided to form a militia and try it.

It goes along with their assumption that liberals don't have guns, and don't know how to use them. Funny, I know a lot of liberals (like me) who not only have guns, we're pretty darn good with them. We're even ex-military.

[Rob A]

In his first year in office, President Obama actually relaxed gun laws by allowing firearms in National Parks and on Amtrak trains. I am a veteran and a firearm owner with an AZ CCW permit... I am also a lifelong Democrat.

[ASK Esq]

Interesting that Orly is threatening California officials with lawsuits if they don't do as she commands. She has previously kept most of her worst excesses out of the state where she is actually licensed to practice law. This, however, sounds like something the CA bar should know about.

Any CA attorneys around who could write a letter?