In today's dispatches, Dr. Orly looks like she's in one of her manic phases again. From sending threatening letters to courtrooms, to rampant paranoia, to making bar association complaints against right-wing talk show hosts, she's all over the place. It says something when Dr. Orly actually gets treated better by a Liberal talk show host milking her for comedy material.
We find out how much the Corsi/Arpaio Hawaiian junket cost the taxpayers of Maricopa county. Salon talks to Sarah Obama, and President Obama's step-grandmother actually thinks the birthers will listen to reality.
Yeah, right.
Open racism at Dr. Kate's, Butterdezillion, and Birther Report? Why yes! Birther Report readers also seem to have a fetish for Soviet-style censorship and control as well. Van Irion whines that the court in Tennessee told him and John Dummett "no", while the DeVattel worshipping Article II Super Heavy PAC send a warning letter to Mitt Romney.
21 June - So, how much were the Maricopa county taxpayers on the hook for the deputy to go with Jerome Corsi and Mike Zullo to Hawaii?? (Page 2)
"On a related matter, MCSO spokesman Jeffrey Sprong today e-mailed me the following breakdown of the expenses for the Hawaii trip. Looks like a score for the deputy involved. I'm envious.
Reg pay $1161.94
OT $3522.24
Benefits $1711.00
Differential $14.11
Per diem for May 18 to May 28 (entire trip): $1133.00
Air/Car rental $754.27
Lodging $1323.09"
So a total of $9619.65 that the taxpayers of Maricopa county will have to cough up for Corsi's little Hawaiian junket. And they still haven't filed charges or anything that would show that this was a real criminal investigation, rather than a bought and paid for political attack
22 June - Salon interviews Sarah Obama, President Obama's step-grandmother.
"What we did learn is that Sarah Obama has views that aren’t terribly surprising for a 90-year-old Kenyan woman who lived a fairly traditional Luo life until the cameras showed up. She opposes family planning and abortion — because babies are a gift from God. She thinks women shouldn’t be able to inherit property, though when asked what advice she would give to a young girl, she stressed education. Asked about efforts to get men to fight domestic violence, she replied that women should be beaten if they’re disobedient to their husbands. In case you’re wondering, her dowry when she married Barack Obama’s grandfather was 12 cows."
So fairly traditional. However, remember how the birthers keep claiming, (based on the edited tape that Philip Berg submitted to the courts), that Sarah Obama claimed President Obama was born in Kenya??
"I said, “Some people want to believe that the president was born in Kenya. Have these people ever bothered you or asked for his birth certificate?”
Mrs. Obama looked concerned, started to protest. But it turned out it was because the rabbits, post-coitus, had started to run away via a security guard’s carelessly ajar gate.
I repeated my question and it was translated. Mrs. Obama wrinkled up her face. Then the interpreter jumped in: “She says, ‘But Barack Obama wasn’t born in Kenya.’” That should settle it."
I'm sure the birthers will claim that the interpreter lied, or that Sarah Obama was "gotten to". After all, when have they ever let truth or the facts get in the way of their lies??
23 June - Looks like Dr. Orly is starting to go into Sovereign Citizen land again. (malware and redirect warning)
This is in regards to her Indiana Birther Ballot Jihad.
"I request herein a certified copy of :
1. Recorded, filed endorsed Individual Surety Bonds/ Crime bonds for you, assistant Attorney General Kate Shelby, Attorney General Zoeller, Secretary of State, members of the Elections Commission, Judge S.K. Reid.
2. Certified copy of the recorded oath of office for all of the above
3. Certified copy of the Certificate of Appointment for all of the above
4. certificate of Election for Attorney General Zoeller and Judge S.K. Reid"
24 June - Dr. Orly demands that the courts in Indiana reinstate her Birther Ballot Jihad in that state. (malware and redirect warning)
"Comes now Plaintiff Pro Se Dr Orly Taitz, ESq (Hereinafter Taitz) and seeks a relief from the order to dismiss the case due to failure to follow requests, due to the fact that the order represents a complete impossibility and an error, as the court never made any requests and there was never any failure to follow requests, as there were never any requests. For this reason Taitz demands immediate reinstatement of the above captioned case as it is the most important case of national security and deals with high ranking state officials aiding and abetting elections fraud and forgery committed by candidate for the US Presidency Barack Hussein Obama."
And her reasons?? (Other than "Wahh, they told me no!" that is)
"Due to the fact that a clear error of fact was committed by the court, and there were never any requests from the court and there was never any failure to follow any requests as there were never any requests, the court should reverse an erroneous order of dismissal and reinstate the case. The reinstatement of the case should be done immediately as this is the case of national importance and paramount to national security. Defendants in this case, Secretary of State of Indiana Connie Lawson and members of Elections Commission breached their fiduciary duty to the petitioners, acted negligently and with malice and committed fraud by allowing Barack Hussein Obama, a foreign national, who is using a name that is not legally his, using a forged birth certificate, forged Selective Service certificate and fraudulently obtained Social Security number, which was not assigned to him according to E-Verify and SSNVS, to be a candidate on the ballot in the State of Indiana."
So in other words, the reason pretty much IS "Wahh, they told me no!!"
"The actions by the defendants are so egregious that they border on treason. If this court does not correct a clear error of fact and does not reinstate this case immediately, this court will become complicit in the crimes committed by the defendants and will become complicit to treason by allowing a foreign national with forged identification papers on the ballot in the state of Indiana."
Ah, nothing like Dr. Orly threatening the judge unless they do what she demands, eh??
"4. In my professional opinion as a licensed attorney, who is not licensed in Indiana, but licensed in multiple other courts, order of dismissal represents a clear error of fact, which is exacerbated by the fact that this is a matter of national importance dealing with the most egregious fraud, forgery and possibly reason committed by defendants by allowing a foreign national Barack Hussein Obama to be on the ballot in the State of indiana in clear code violation by using a last name, which is not legally his and all forged identification papers."
So basically, your entire argument, based upon your status as a graduate of the Taft Skool o' Law and Stuff and the fact that the California Bar Association continues to allow you to malpractice law, is that the judge is wrong because you say he's wrong, so here, phhhhpt!!
24 June - The comments at Dr. Kate's cesspool look more and more like Lame Cherry every day, at least in regards to the open, blatant racism. Well, that and the conspiracy insanity.
"Quantum Leap
June 24, 2012 at 2:55 pm
…It’s countdown time. Ron Paul sweeps the convention winning with 75% of the delegates and the bosses can’t stop him. Then RP goes on to battle nobama in his usual respectful and humble way. RP wins and is now President Paul and the “jefferson’s” are forced onto Air Force One and taken back to the chee town ghetto never to be seen or heard from again as they were given a deal of jail time or go home in silence….and a note to GTFOOH. (get the F out of here) and take willard romney with him.
I can dream……. It could happen. It’s not impossible. God works in mysterious ways."
24 June - The paranoia and delusion within Dr. Orly seem to be reaching whole new levels. (malware and redirect warning)
"Obama already prepared a plan B for himself, he used our taxpayer dollars to change the Constitution in Kenya, so he can become the President of Kenya and possibly the President of the African Union. He has millions in the bank reportedly on Cayman islands. I believe he can and should use his plan B."
Thereby showing there is no Obama conspiracy theory so stupid and lacking in reality that Dr. Orly won't believe it.
"I am not working only with 2 attorneys: Berg and Kreep, because out of jealousy and greed they filed an outrageous law suit against me, my husband, licensed investigator Neil Sankey, who found all the information about Obama using stolen Social Security numbers."
"Wahhh! They said mean things about me!!"
"Berg and Liberi threw outrageous accusations against her and caused Ms. Belcher to suffer a stroke. Berg caused a talk show host Ed Hale a heart attack"
Funny, the birthers usually claim that President Obama has a "heart attack gun", not Philip Berg.
"Considering corruption in the government and all of the elections fraud, I would not be surprised to find that Kreep’s election to become a judge win was arranged as a thank you, a reward for harassing me, my family and all of the research team and database companies who were involved in developing the criminal case against Obama. "
Damn. She really does think it's All About Her.
"I believe that Kreep did not show a moral character to be an attorney, never mind a judge"
That's okay, neither do you.
"Currently CA bar is reviewing the complaint against him."
You act like the California Bar Association's ethics panel actually exists.
"I believe Liberi was allowed to be on probation instead of sitting in prison until 2016 according to her criminal conviction, because she is helpful. I am wondering why the Disciplinary board of Pennsylvania did not bring a verdict in Berg’s case yet. His violations were egregious.
Again, she really does think it's all about her.
"He committed fraud on Disciplinary board, perjury and submitted manufactured documents. Any other attorney would be disbarred for that. "
Well, you haven't yet, and you've done pretty much the same.
24 June - A complaint is filed with the IRS claiming fraud on the part of the Maricopa CCCP.
(Scribd link here)
24 June - Add "jurisdiction" to the long list of legal concepts Dr. Orly has problems with (malware and redirect warning)
"Extremely important. write to arpaio, urge him to file an application for a warrant for search and seizure
Posted on | June 24, 2012 "
Towards who and on what grounds?
"I see boots writing time and again about Arpaio’s subpoena being vague. In his subpoena Arpaio is saying “it is my belief that forgery and fraud was likely committed.” What boots are saying is that Arpaio is not saying that “forgery and fraud were committed”. They also argue that if Arpaio would be sure that Obama is using forged docs, he would submit his report to DA."
Only because the above is actually based in things like "reality"
"When Arpaio files his application, an Arizona judge would issue it and this Arizona warrant can be submitted to the sherigff’s department in HI with request of reciprocity, to conduct the search of the Health department and assist with questioning Onaka, Fuddy, Corley, Bauer and Obama. If HI sheriff’s department is corrupt (very possible), they can go to court"
*SNORK*
Yes, she wants a Sheriff in Arizona to submit a demand to search and seize all the records of a department of the State of Hawaii, and sue the legal authorities in Hawaii unless they refuse to respect Arpaio's "authority"
Not even Corsi or his puppet Arpaio are *quite* that stupid.
25 June - "Addicting Info" weighs in on Judge (gag) Gary Kreep.
"Let me take a step back, though. Mr. Kreep was just elected to San Diego’s Superior Court. This ninny is a judge, beating out a 27 year deputy district attorney that had “received the county bar association’s highest rating and who was supported by local police unions and sitting judges.”
It’s a six-year position that pays a whopping $180,000 a year. Of course, he’ll have to put aside his leadership of USJF (a rather innocent group name for one so filled with anti-Muslim hate) in order to be a judge on the court. But what’s to stop him from being a total asshole in cases where Muslims are involved?"
More than likely, nothing.
25 June - Paranoid birther Nellie Ristvedt aka "Butterdezillion" shows some good old-fashioned Islamophobia and bigotry.
"…Another thing I feel very, very strongly about is that we need to officially recognize that when Muslims become 10% of the population they are required to become enemies of the US Constitution. So no religious guarantees extend to Muslims once they reach that point, and in order to secure religious liberty for the Muslims we have to ensure that they never get even close to 10% of the population. We need to closely monitor the Muslim population - birth rates, death rates, conversion rates, illegal immigration rates, etc… so we can only allow as many Muslims (religious refugees from countries where they are being persecuted, preferably) as will keep the total percentage well under 10%.Anyone who favors the institution of sharia in America needs to be banned from government work of any kind. Sharia is diametrically opposed to the US Constitution.
12 posted on June 25, 2012 8:29:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion"
So much for that pesky "freedom of religion" thing. And didn't Nazi Germany pass some laws similar to this in the late 1930's???
26 June - Once again, from his home in Helsinki, Finland, Lawrence Sellin uses Pravda OnLine to preach sedition against the President of the United States and the US Government.
Such a patriot.
"In the Russian language there is a term called "vranyo." It is loosely defined as telling a white lie or a semi-truth. It may contain fantasy or involve the suppression of unpleasant parts of the truth.
In regard to Obama's ineligibility and his alleged felonies, politicians and the media expect the American people to respond in this way:
"You know that you are lying, I know that you are lying, and you know that I know that you are lying, but we both smile and nod in agreement."
In the English language there is a term used to describe the content of Lawrence Sellin's writing.
It's called "Bullshit".
He then spews forth just about every warmed over deVattelist lie, and ends with:
"According to his own autobiography "Dreams from My Father," Barack Obama is not a "natural born citizen" and, therefore, is an illegal President. Every law that he has signed and every appointment that he has made is invalid."
Ah yes, the magic reset button so beloved of birthers.
26 June - Dr. Orly appears on the Stephanie Miller show.
I think anyone expecting confrontation will be disappointed. But anyone who's familiar with the Stephanie Miller show will know she gave them comedy material for days.
Though (and I speak as a Stephcast subscriber), it REALLY would have been nice to see Dr. Orly called out on her lies more.
Oh, and Dr. Orly's claim that President Obama can't set foot in Arizona or Joe Arpaio will arrest and deport him was rather amusing in it's utter delusion.
26 June - Sometimes there's an extra-crispy bucket of insanity at Birther Report:
"Anonymous said...[Reply]
The minute Romney or Paul take office, the first announcement is that Zero and his family have been arrested by the military while on air force one and taken to gitmo. Drop the spawn off at the airport in Kenya and strip them of their US citizenship. Zero and Mooselle get the full gitmo treatment to make them talk. Show their water boarding live on TV as a warning. Show it in all the schools.
The second thing Romney or Paul should do is arrest Soros, Buffet, and every other Zerokissing socialist millionaire. Strip them of citizenship, dump them anywhere that will have them, take all their money and assets to help pay off Zero's debt.
Next, get the names of everyone stupid or criminal enough to donate money or support to Zero. Take all their money, turn them out of their houses and homes. Give their jobs to real hardworking Americans. Anyone not born here loses citizenship and gets tossed across the border.
Kick all the queers out of the military. They lose all benefits and get forced to repay the government every cent of pay they were given while contaminating the military.
On day two, Romney or Paul should criminalize the DEMONrat party. All DEMONrats in office are impeached, loose all pay, pension and benefits.
On day three, all military officers that supported Zero or failed to take action to remove his skinny butt from our White house are dishonorably discharged. Same with any registered DEMONrats in the military. Romney or Paul appoint solid Christian Constitutionalists in each military unit to overhaul the military and make sure that they are reminded that the true power is in the Constitution and We the People.
On day four, The lame stream media is dissolved, and solid Christian Constitutionalists take charge of all media to purge it of all un-American views and principals. Zero and Mooselle's treason trial is broadcast on all channels, as is the verdict and punishment.
Day six, the money stolen by Zero and his supporters is returned to the people. China is told to take a hike.
On Day seven, Kenya is informed that US troops will be arriving to set up bases and arrest the Kenyan government for their role in Zero's fraud. A US-friendly government will replace it made up of Kenyan Christians approved by the United States.
All military aid and assistance given to England will be halted at once as punishment for their role in Zero's fraud. All English and Kenyan assets in the US will be confiscated and given to the United States to pay down Zero's debt.
Once the government, media, and military are purged of all un-American views and leanings, with solid Christian Constitutionalists to make sure they don't backslide or spout treason again.
This is what Romney or Paul should do.
June 26, 2012 11:01 AM
So lets see what "American values" the writer espoused on.
Rendition, torture, abandonment of US citizen minors in a foreign country, illegally revoking citizenship, one-party rule, purges of the military and media, appointment of political officers and officials in the military and media, illegally confiscating private property and money, abandonment of due process, the overthrow and occupation of a foreign country, censorship, and de facto government support of a single religion.
Quite the patriot, eh?
Not surprisingly, "RacerJim" liked it:
"RacerJim said…[Reply]@Anonymous June 26, 2012 11:01 AM
Sounds like a plan to me! :-)
June 26, 2012 12:25 PM "
"Anonymous said…[Reply]
@Anonymous June 26, 2012 11:01 AM
You left out the removal of the correct judiciary and replacing them with struck Bible-believing Constitutionalists.
Its obvious the entire judicial system is corrupt, including most of the supreme court. We need to get rid of the traitors, vet the ones left for moral and Constitutional beliefs, and rebuild our courts. None of this "lack of standing" double-talk.
We got a good start with the American Grand Jury and Pastor Manning's 12 Amendment trial of the usurper, but the judicial system ignored us because they though We The People were toothless. Time to show the traitors we bite.
June 26, 2012 2:30 PM "
But never fear. There's also room at Birther Report for blatant racism as well!
(Bold face mine)
"Anonymous said…[Reply]…We American citizens have rights bought and paid for by blood. NO illegal mulatto usurper fraudulently occupying the Oval office is going to replace our freedom with his crap executive orders or consistent lies. Same for CONgress ALL liars and wimps. No integrity exists in DC. NONE! Sheriff Joe better get on with the proof of barry soetero being an impostor. It may already be to late. Draggin' there feet squeezing the $ of marketing through WND. Next thing we know Maxine Waters will be VP.
June 26, 2012 3:01 PM "
26 June - Van Irion gets around to whining about his "can't fail" Tennessee case getting dismissed.
"The Western District Court dismissed our Tennessee Obama eligibility lawsuit and ruled that none of the plaintiffs in our lawsuit had standing to challenge Obama’s constitutional eligibility to serve as President. The Court refused to reach the substantive issue raised by our complaint.:
Little hard to do when your complaint has no substantive issues, but instead relies on a patchwork of lies and mistaken claims.
"We were very surprised by the court’s order, in part because an earlier order from this court had seemed favorable. This latest order was also shocking because of the legal acrobatics used by the court to reach its ruling. "
Legal acrobats like "facts" and "the law".
"Presidential candidate John Dummett. The court refused to accept a filing from LLF proving that Mr. Dummett had registered with the Tennessee Secretary of State as a write-in candidate."
Maybe because the registration took place AFTER you filed the complaint??
"However we are still considering our options. We will continue to earnestly pursue the other two eligibility lawsuits (Georgia and Arizona) "
Here's a hint. "appeal denied" and "dismissed".
26 June - The Huffington Post reports on Dr. Orly's appearance on the Stephanie Miller show.
"Taitz, who lost a U.S. Senate campaign in California earlier this month, claimed that Monday's decision by the U.S. Supreme Court regarding Arizona's immigration law could lead to Obama's deportation. The court struck down parts of the law but upheld a section allowing Arizona police to review the papers of those stopped.
"He can't step in Arizona," Taitz told Miller. "He will be arrested and deported."
Taitz also accused Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, of welfare fraud by placing a birth announcement in a Honolulu newspaper following his birth. Taitz claimed that the birth announcement was not placed by a Honolulu hospital as has been reported, but instead by Dunham herself in an attempt to receive welfare benefits. She also claimed that Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his "posse" have discovered that thousands such cases exist in Hawaii through their investigation into Obama's birth certificate."
Someone needs to send her footage of President Obama's next stop in Arizona….. :-)
26 June - And it seems that Dr. Orly took the time to call Geraldo Rivera's radio show too.
(MP3 here, skip to 35:14)
She doesn't last long.
26 June - Well, Dr. Orly liked her appearance on the Stephanie Miller show (malware and redirect warning)
"I was concerned about Stephanie Miller show, but she was not bad. She and her crue of 2 male co-hosts were friendly. She is a comedian and she is on the left, so she understandably threw a few curved balls, but it was not bad.
I provided her with the DVD and with all the info about my cases, Obama’s fraudulent SSN and BC. The segment was only 20 minutes, so I had limited time."
Of course they did. You gave them comedy material for days!
However, she's rather annoyed at "Heraldo" Rivera:
"Rivera has a lot of listeners. When I called, I told Rivera and Hewitt that recently sheriff Joe Arpaio issued a sworn affidavit, where he confirmed results of 4 years of my work, that Obama is using a Connecticut SSN, which was never assigned to him, a forged BC and a forged Selective service certificate. According to recent SB1070 Obama can be arrested by Arpaio on suspicion of being an illegal alien, due to his use of forged papers and being deported.
Rivera immediately freaked out and said that talking about it makes us look crazy. Hewitt said that it was proven that Obama was born in HI and they cut me off and did not let me respond."
You know why he said it makes the GOP look crazy?
Because it does.
26 June - She's really annoyed at "Heraldo" Rivera (malware and redirect warning)
"Your help is needed in getting law license information for talk show hosts Heraldo Rivera,Greta von Susteren, Megyn Kelly, Liz Wiehl, Larry Elder
Posted on | June 26, 2012"
26 June - Really,really annoyed (malware and redirect warning)
"Reminder! Write to Heraldo Rivera and Hugh Hewitt show and demand that they end journalistic malpractice and stop aiding and abetting elections fraud and use of forged docs by Obama
Posted on | June 26, 2012"
26 June - Disgruntled PUMA Helen Tansey at the the Article II Super-duper extra large steaming pile of PAC writes a letter to Mitt Romney's campaign saying "you better not even think of Rubio or Jindal if you know what's good for you!!"
"You are no doubt fully aware that two of the favored choices for vice-president, bandied about by the left-leaning media and heartily endorsed by the republican political establishment, Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal, are in fact constitutionally ineligible to be vice-president and/or president. "
Funny, US law and the US Constitution state otherwise.
"Simply stated they are not “natural born Citizens” as required by law."
Funny, US law and the US Constitution state otherwise.
"Given the controversy of your father’s presidential candidacy in the sixties as it pertained to his citizenship status, and of course the ever-growing controversy surrounding the identity of the current resident in the White House, we are confident that you are intimately knowledgeable of this issue."
The fact that Mitt Romney's father was harassed like he was does say that Mitt Romney should be aware of the birthers. And that he should be ashamed for tolerating them in his campaign like he has.
And what do the inmates at Birther Report have to say?
"Doublee said…[Reply]Is a copy of this open letter actually going to be mailed to Mitt Romney?
My prediction:
Mr. Romney will either ignore the letter or shrug it off as nonsense. Will he even comment publicly about receiving it? I doubt it.
June 26, 2012 2:13 PM "
At least he's being honest with himself.
"RacerJim said…[Reply]Can you hear us, Mitt?
June 26, 2012 2:35 PM "
"Grandmas Mad said…[Reply]Thank-you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been sending e-mails to Romneys site almost daily about this….I have told every phone caller I have spoken to that I will NOT work for or contribute to his campaign until he picks a V.P….cause as a believer in our Constitution I CANNOT support a non legal campaign…Thank-you for stating this so eloquently!!!!!!!!!!
June 26, 2012 2:41 PM "
Dear Mr. Romney.
These are your base. Enjoy.
"Torch n PitchForks said…[Reply]The only difference between Mittney and Obozo is a can of shoe polish.
Take your pick:
Communist Muslime from Kenya
or
Commusnist Mormoron from Peoples Republic of Massachusetts.
June 26, 2012 6:30 PM "
Bigoted pile of dung, isn't he?
Obama needs to make a stop in Phoenix while on the campaign trail if for no other reason than to make birfoon heads explode. If Arpaio so much as showed his stupid face, I suspect the Secret Service would be all over him.
Posted by: Xyxox | June 27, 2012 at 04:02 PM
> "On Day seven, Kenya is informed that US troops will be arriving to set up bases and arrest the Kenyan government for their role in Zero's fraud. A US-friendly government will replace it made up of Kenyan Christians approved by the United States.
All military aid and assistance given to England will be halted at once as punishment for their role in Zero's fraud."
At least the nut is sane enough not to demand to give England the same treatment as Kenya. Though I wouldn't mind if the Queen personally nuked the guy for being such an un-American asshat who thinks the next President should be precisely the kind of dictator birthers claim Obama is.
Those fantasies about some Birther Führer who jails or deports anyone who doesn't follow the party line are quite telling, though.
Posted by: The Magic M | June 28, 2012 at 02:09 AM
"Those fantasies about some Birther Führer who jails or deports anyone who doesn't follow the party line are quite telling, though."
Agreed, "The Magic M". Very telling and very chilling. Thankfully, these folks are nothing but a bunch of keyboard blowhards and gullible idiots with a hate fetish.
...But it is still disgusting to realize that there are such ugly-hearted people out there who would eagerly dream of committing such reprehensible acts of bigotry based genocide....
These sick losers are worse people than even the Taliban... thankfully, they are impotent in their rage and too incompetent in their thinking to carry out their foul fantasy fetishes...
Posted by: G | June 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM
The nutty Butterdezillion grows more unhinged every day.
Posted by: Gary Miller | June 28, 2012 at 02:58 PM
> But it is still disgusting to realize that there are such ugly-hearted people out there who would eagerly dream of committing such reprehensible acts of bigotry based genocide
To be fair, I've had my share of fantasies along the lines of "if I were in charge, some things would run *very* differently", too. But they never included the Nazi-like methods that birthers proudly proclaim to support.
Posted by: The Magic M | June 29, 2012 at 01:38 AM
I completely understand what you are saying, "The Magic M". I think everyone has reasonable fantasies about how they would do this or that differently if they had a say. I would say that is fairly normal.
...however, the desire to suppress and murder masses of people for simply disagreeing with your positions - NOT normal (nor healthy) at all...sick, sick, sick...
Posted by: G | June 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM