In today's dispatches, early fun leading up to today;s appearance by Dr. Orly in Indiana. Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi is grasping at straws. Birther Report continues it's rapid decent into racist madness.
Some possibly questionable information about Larry Klayman. The teahaddists in Arizona are starting to worry that Joe Arpaio hasn't ridden out on his WHITE Horse to arrest that uppity darkie in the WHITE House.
And Viscount Monckton shows up in the electrons of World Nut Daily to comitt acts of mathematical abuse - if not outright fraud - upon the gullible.
20 September - We have the Indiana Secretary of State motion to reconsider Dr. Orly's Pro Hac Vice application.
(Scribd link here)
"18. Finally, Plaintiff Taitz has been sanctioned on several occasions in other courts in cases containing the same claims as the present matter. Though Taitz may not have any current pending discipline in the State of California, her behavior has been admonished by at least one federal court. See State Respondents' Exhibit A to Motion for Sanctions. Taitz also accused this Court of bias on the record at a previous hearing."
21 September - Gregory Black, the Indiana attorney sponsoring Dr. Orly's PHV application in that state, is a bit grumpy.
(Scribd link here)
"1. Pro status seems a matter between Court & applicant."
Translation - The state doesn't have any say in the matter, so butt out.
"3. State should deal more with the Connecticut social security number & affidavit from Hawaii official that no birth record exists at any Honolulu hospital on 4 August '61 of a Barack Obama or other name used for our President. It cannot be that difficult to locate the birth of a non-Polynesian born three years or so after statehood on a date certain. Yet that appears the case, and the U.S. Constitution says what it says."
Wow. It's hard to know where to begin.
For starters, births of "non-Polynesians" isn't exactly a rare thing in Hawaii, even during the 1950's and 60's. There's been a large Asian, Anglo, and Portuguese community there for a long time.
Let's take a look at the US Census data for the State of Hawaii for 1960 (ZIP file here)
The first tell-tale is the Census of Population: 1960, Volume I, Characteristics of the Population, Part 13, Hawaii.
Page 8, (Preface), there is a graph that states that the proportional nonwhite population for Hawaii has decreased since 1940, from 75.5% to 68.0%
Page 3 (Chapter 1), it gives the white population of Hawaii at 202,230. And the nonwhite population as 430,542.
Page 6 (Chapter 3), the breakdown is:
White - 202,230
"Negro" - 4,943
Indian - 472
Japanese - 203,455
Chinese - 38,197
Filipino - 69,070
All Others - 114,405
The census doesn't say what percentage was Native Hawaiian or any other Pacific Islander. But the fact that "All Others" was smaller than either the white or Japanese datasets speaks volumes to disprove Mr. Black's claim.
The fact he cited race though, tends to rather indicate that Mr. Black may be a bit on the racist side too….
Then there's the "affidavit from Hawaii official". I presume he's referring to Tim Adams, in which case it's rather easily debunked by statements and records from the department Tim Adams was a temp worker in.
Social Security number claim is easily disputed by the REPEATED statements from SSA.
And finally, while the Constitution "says what it says", it doesn't say anything about birth certificates or Social Security numbers.
24 September - At World Nut Daily, Swiftboat liar Jerome Corsi breathlessly reports on a birther member of the Electoral College…..
"A challenge to Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president is forming within the Electoral College process, WND has confirmed."
O RLY???
"James Grinols, one of 10 presidential electors chosen by the Republican Party of Minnesota, is asking GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney and vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan to provide Grinols’ legal counsel, Mario Apuzzo, with their “paper, full form official certificate of birth with raised seal from the place of your birth.”
Grinols told WND that if Romney and Ryan were to win his state, but they ignore his request to provide verification of their eligibility, he might not vote for the Republican candidates in the Electoral College.
“I may be idealistic, but it seems my only available option is to help the Republicans lead by example,” he said."
*Blink* How does this affect President Obama? If Romney/Ryan wins that state (Minnesota has been a "blue" state for Presidential elections since 1972, and Nate Silver at 538 projects a 94.9% chance that President Obama will win that state again).
So the only way this guy would be an elector is *IF* Mitt Romney wins that state. And the only way that would affect President Obama would be if Mitt Romney won that state and Obama won the election anyway.
"Each party in each state in which its candidate is running for president, chooses a slate of electors. If Mitt Romney wins the popular vote in Minnesota, for example, all 10 of the Republican Party of Minnesota’s electors would cast a vote in the Electoral College.
“If we could get Republican electors in all states – all [538] of them – to ask for Romney’s birth certificate, it would have a visible, strong moral pull at least to independents who might finally see the absurdity of a presidential candidate going to court in order to resist being forced to show birth certificate credentials,” he said."
Yeah, but it's unlikely the majority of GOP electors would go that route. Mostly because many Republicans haven't drank the birther flavour-aid yet, and also because Mitt Romney is…..well, shall we say suffers from a relative lack of melanin.
"Grinols’ legal counsel, Apuzzo, is a New Jersey attorney who has filed many legal challenges to Obama’s presidential eligibility."
And has a perfect record - not one win.
“Still, my goal is to set a standard,” Grinols explained. “If I demand to see the birth certificates as credentials, I hope the idea will catch on and the Democratic Party presidential electors will do the same for Barack Obama and Joe Biden.”
Assuming such a thing look place, then all Barack Obama would need to do is show the physical copies of the documents that were scanned and placed on line. That being said, it's unlikely that the Democratic party would play the "show us your papers, boy" card….
“Minnesota trusts but verifies future teenage drivers by insisting on a physical, full-form, certified birth certificate with raised seal and will not accept an Internet copy,” he said. “The Electoral College should accept no less.”
How funny. Because the State of Minnesota's own website gives what they would accept as a "primary document" for purposes of identity confirmation. (PDF here) And what it says is:
"Certified birth record issued by a government bureau of vital statistics or board of health in the United States, District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico or the United States Virgin Islands"
It doesn't say anything about a "full-form, certified birth certificate with raised seal"
They also will accept a "Certificate of Birth Abroad (FS-545 or DS-1350) issued by the U.S. Department of State" and a "Report of Birth Abroad of a United States Citizen (FS-240) issued by a U.S. embassy", among others.
What a surprise, a birther lied.
24 September - Insanity seems to be spreading at Birther Report.
"joebanana said…[Reply] It's all good. Sept. 15 were the opening proceedings of the International Common Law Court of Justice. We no longer have to be abused by US judges, in fact, they can be tried in this court for all of their crimes against humanity, their corruption, and their conspiracy to commit crimes against American's. As can all of the others who violated their oaths of office. September 24, 2012 4:15 PM"
"…any….day…..now….."
Oh, and this seems to be what he's babbling about.
"Anonymous said…[Reply] Mississippi must be the new Yankee-town. Orly is guaranteed to win in Indiana on Wednesday, Obot. Speculation is that the Indiana Supreme Court has been enjoined by the Election Commission to re-consider the Ankeny Decision, with Orly taking center stage as lead lawyer.How about THEM apples, OBOTS!!!
September 24, 2012 1:52 PM"
I think your apple's rather overly fermented.
"Anonymous said…[Reply]…YOU SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE ABOUT THAT. SHE HAD THAT CASE WON IN A SLAM DUNK. SHE HAD HER EXPERTS LINED UP PERFECTLY.
Speculation is that Obama himself called Judge Malihi just minutes after the case adjourned and personally threatened his children. Unknown to you Obots, Orly has subpoenaed Malihi's phone and email records.
When this news breaks, Orly will be vindicated. She set Oblahblah up perfectly.
September 24, 2012 7:17 PM"
"Anonymous said…[Reply]..Did I stutter? You'll get the big news on Wednesday, Obot. Mississippi is small potatoes compared to what Orly has in store for you on Wednesday. NO MORE ANKENY. That's right!! And when Ankeny goes down, can Malihi be far behind?
September 24, 2012 7:23 PM"
Ooooookay.
Dude, never believe what store brand alphabet soup tells you! It lies!!
"Ralph Swain said…[Reply]…It's common knowledge that Malihi was both threatened and bribed. If he went against Sambo Barack then his children would be hurt, but if he played along, he was offered stock in the power company that had just received person to build two new nuclear plants in Georgia. Like you say, once his phone and email records are examined, the truth will come out--just hope it happens before the elections so that it can do some good.
"Death Angel said…[Reply] @AnonymousIf Obama get back in office, you can bet that there will be war and fighting in the streets of the USA.
I don't see this fight lasting long. After all, the Obama supporters are the laziest fucks on the planet and whites aren't going to fight for his Arab ass, either.
September 24, 2012 1:38 PM"
"Ralph Swain said…[Reply] @Death Angel"I don't see this fight lasting long. After all, the Obama supporters are the laziest fucks on the planet and whites aren't going to fight for his Arab ass, either."Exactly! Remember, blacks only make up about 13 percent of the population, and the Asians and Mexicans will gladly fight against them. I say, let the fiting begin! With a little work, we can set all the minorities up to fight against each other, and after they've thinned the herd, this will be a much better country. Unemployment will also go down.
September 24, 2012 1:53 PM"
"Ralph Swain said…[Reply] @Anonymous"Is Intrade taking odds on any shooting war between the birthers and the American military? I'd like to place a bet."You must be a Jew, so eager to turn a national tragedy into a stock market bet.
Racist much??
"Anonymous said…[Reply]
we the people need to make our state police arrest and charge all our congressmen/women and senators with conspiracy to commit fraud, fraud, treason, conspiracy to commit treason . they are the ones who have stood by with their thumbs up their asses and allowed this crime to go on as long as it has. now we got a commie who is destroying our nation and the cowards on the right are so afraid of some lying liberal news hack calling them a racist that they are willing to call we the people crazy for asking them to do their job. we need to not only arrest and jail these wimps but let them all rot in federal prison for the rest of their lives. we have forgotten the power we hold. not one of these punks can get elected or run for office with out us voting for them. treason is a high crime and is punishable by death. its time to put the fear of God back into these politicians and put the faith of power back into the hands of we the people where it belongs. wake up America we hold all the power not the scum that's been allowed to grow in DC. its time we drain the swamp and move the scum to a well guarded pond called prison. the government is arming themselves to come after us. we need to go after them first and fast before we lose our country as well as our freedoms. God gave us the gift of freedom are we so lazy that we are going to let these losers take it from us? too many great men died to protect us to just give up. we need to show these punks its going to take more than they got. are we men or sheep? this man is an American and nobody takes from me with out a fight.
September 24, 2012 9:01 PM"
"Wahhh! Where's my coup?? I want my coup!! WAHHHHHH!!!"
25 September - The 26 July 2012 decision by the Ohio Supreme Court, in regards to the appeal of the judgement against World Nut Daily (and Florida birther ballot jihad attorney) Larry Klayman.
(PDF here)
This was a lawsuit between Klayman and his former wife where Klayman tried to appeal two judgements denying his motion to modify parental rights and responsibilities and finding him in contempt of court. Most of it is pretty standard bitter nasty divorce fare.
One part sticks out as…..well….disturbing.
"{¶25} The issues raised by Klayman involve credibility assessments made by the magistrate. Klayman challenges these findings. The magistrate heard evidence from the children’s pediatrician who reported allegations of sexual abuse to children services, and from a social worker at children services who found that sexual abuse was “indicated.” Although the social worker’s finding was later changed to “unsubstantiated” when Klayman appealed, the magistrate explained that the supervisor who changed the social worker’s finding did not testify. The magistrate pointed out that he was obligated to make his own independent analysis based upon the parties and the evidence before him. In doing so, the magistrate found
on more than one occasion [Klayman] act[ed] in a grossly inappropriate manner with the children. His conduct may not have been sexual in the sense that he intended to or did derive any sexual pleasure from it or that he intended his children would. That, however, does not mean that he did not engage in those acts or that his behavior was proper.
{¶26} The magistrate further found it significant that although Klayman denied any allegations of sexual abuse, he never denied that he did not engage in inappropriate behavior with the children. The magistrate further found it notable that Klayman, “for all his breast beating about his innocence * * * [he] scrupulously avoided being questioned by anyone from [children services] or from the Sheriff’s Department about the allegations,” and that he refused to answer any questions, repeatedly invoking his Fifth Amendment rights, about whether he inappropriately touched the children. “Even more disturbing” to the magistrate was the fact that Klayman would not even answer the simple question regarding what he thought inappropriate touching was. The magistrate stated that he could draw an adverse inference from Klayman’s decision not to testify to these matters because it was a civil proceeding, not criminal.
{¶27} After reviewing the record, we find no abuse of discretion on the part of the trial court in overruling Klayman’s objections regarding the magistrate’s finding that Klayman inappropriately touched the children."
We knew he owed child support and was a deadbeat dad. But this?
26 September - Once again. a (blank) and their (blank) are soon (blank)
"A little over a year ago I was perplexed that federal law-enforcement authorities, the media, the federal judiciary, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives were ignoring what appeared to be a fraudulent Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth that was posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011. The purported birth certificate was for President Barack Hussein Obama II. It became very obvious to me that there were many anomalies on the document that everyone on the federal level apparently wanted to simply ignore"
Translation - "Wahh! The scary black man was still president!!"
"Arizona has fraud and forgery statutes, and continues to uphold the rule of law, so I chose to download the Obama birth certificate from the White House website onto my computer here in Maricopa County to establish jurisdiction. I made an appointment with you and we met on August 18, 2011 to discuss my concerns. Prior to our meeting, I wrote a petition requesting your assistance, and on August 17, 2011 two hundred and forty-two Maricopa residents signed the petition in a little over two hours. I gave you a copy of the petitions and a copy of the Arizona Revised Statutes that cover fraud and forgery. At that meeting I said that you were “the last hope for America.” I still believe you are America’s last hope to know the truth about our President. I simply asked for you to investigate the authenticity of the document and take the appropriate actions."
And the fact he then contacted Mike Zullo and Jerome Corsi speaks volumes as to how serious Arpaio planned to be about said "investigation".
"You asked me to come back to your office on August 22, 2012 for another meeting. At that meeting you said that you would investigate the document using your Cold Case Posse. I was assured that the investigation would be done with “the utmost diligence.” This became the first law-enforcement investigation in the nation of Barack Obama?s identification papers."
By “the utmost diligence" he means "ignore any evidence that may confirm the long form is accurate and factual".
"Six months later, on March 1, 2012, you held your first press conference to announce your findings. My wife Denise and I attended the news conference. It was announced that your office had developed probable cause that Barack Hussein Obama II?s Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth and his Selective Service System Registration form were both forgeries. The Certificate of Live Birth was called a computer generated file forgery. It was also announced that you had developed leads regarding a person or persons of interest. As was expected, the media attacked you the messenger and refused to discuss the specifics of your findings."
Maybe because Arpaio offered nothing that hadn't been debunked months earlier??
"My wife and I were so impressed with your press conference, we decided that it was important for the general public to witness what we saw firsthand and expose what the media had censored. Denise and I put an event together in less than 10 days. We held it at the Church on the Green on March 31, 2012, charged no admission and asked for no donations and gave you the stage as a public service. I wrote a petition to the Arizona legislature based on elements of your investigation and Denise circulated it at the event. Nearly 1,200 people attended the standing room only event. Many video DVDs were made and circulated throughout the nation as well as displayed on the internet. I’m still amazed how well you and your presentation were received by the public."
You mean by the select group of tea party members and senior citizens present??
And I saw the video. 120 *maybe* 1220?? Doubtful.
"It is now September 25, 2012 and the general election is fast approaching. America is running out of time regarding the enigma called Barack Hussein Obama II. America is depending on Arizona to act."
Translation - "Wahh! The scary black man is still president!!"
"Frankly, Congress is a waste of time, and there is very little time left."
Translation - "Wahh! The scary black man may get elected to a second term as president!!"
"I believe that it is time to turn your evidence over either to the Arizona Grand Jury or the Maricopa County Grand Jury for a determination whether crimes of fraud and forgery have been committed against the citizens of Arizona and identify, if possible, the perpetrator of the crimes and who is the most likely beneficiary of these purported crimes. It’s time to let the jurors of the Grand Jury decide our future, not the politicians in Congress."
*chuckle* *snork* *LAUGH*
Oh get real! The very last thing Corsi OR Arpaio want is to have their steaming pack of lies subjected to an actual unbiased examination or to have to defend them in a courtroom!!!
"I have also made this request to Governor Jan Brewer, Attorney General Tom Horne and Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery."
And when they were done laughing….
"Sheriff Arpaio, I thank you for being a man of your word and investigating this issue at my request for the past year. You have been the subject of many personal attacks of ridicule and scorn"
All of which were well deserved and earned.
"Denise and I trust you will do what is best for Arizona and America with the evidence that you have developed."
Gee, you think by now they may have realized that Arpaio will do what's best for Arpaio, and screw everyone else.
26 September - Viscount Monckton ends up as a writer for World Nut Daily.
And starts off with some choice insanity. First off, I'm going to comment on some rather interesting tell-tales:
(Bold face mine)
"In real life, the lack of elementary mathematical knowledge among the nation’s gumshoes is not the least of the reasons why, so far, Black Jesus has gotten away with his Mickey Mouse “birth certificate.”
"We can use the same method to determine the likelihood that Fu Manchu’s “birth certificate” is genuine."
"Registrar’s signature-stamp all on one electronic layer, allowing it to be moved about in the data-file: 100:1 against. This is actually impossible, but it’s Be Nice to Soetoro Week"
"actually impossible: no two-digit example other than
that of Kenya’s “son of the soil”
is known"
" Defenders of Mr. Community Organizer say each error could have just happened by accident."
"Otherwise it’s four more years of The Amateur"
These all show what would be called a bias on the part of the statistician making the claim.
Then we look at the actual claims. Basically what Viscount Monckton did was look at the items that Mara Zebest, Paul Irey, Doug Vogt, and other so-called "experts" claim to have found in the long form PDF, and "mathematically" came up with the claim that the odds of the long form being authentic as:
"Accordingly, the probability that Mr. Obama’s birth narrative is in substance true is no better than 1 in 62,500,000,000,000,000,000, or 0.0000000000000000000016. That probability is what we mathematicians describe as “vanishingly different from zero.”
Don’t be misled by the simplicity of the method. It’s simple but sound. The result is solid."
It's also bad statistical analysis.
1) Viscount Monckton has no training in document analysis or forensic science.
2) The datasets used are of questionable validity (if not outright falsehood)
Outside of the long form "claims", he also makes claims like:
"two-digit year on selective service stamp against DoD written rules 100:1"
"non-citizen of Connecticut holds CT Social Security Number 100:1"
3) Selective Service Administration confirms data is accurate.
4) Social Security Administration repeatedly has stated that the "state codes" are meaningless anymore. (and since the zip codes in CT start with "0" and HI start with "9", the odds are actually pretty good in regards to input error.
And finally, Viscount Monckton fails to provide the raw data in which he supposedly came up with these odds.
In short, this entire "analysis" would be laughed out of any statistical studies course. Which doesn't stop him from suggesting something even dumber.
"Here is what you can do about it. Write by Return Receipt Requested to the head of the Secret Service and demand an investigation into the forged “birth certificate.” When you get no reply, write again by Return Receipt Requested, giving the Secret Service two weeks to reply.
When you still get no reply, apply to your Federal District Court for judicial review of the administrative decision of the Secret Service to refuse to do its job. It has a specific remit to investigate the authenticity of identification documents.
The courts cannot legitimately deny standing to any citizen seeking an order to tell the Secret Service to get on with its work rather than sullenly crossing the street, looking the other way, shutting its eyes, blocking its ears and singing “la-la-la” in a hysterical monotone."
Monckton knows even less about the US court system than he does statistics.
26 September - And just for the heck of it, World Nut Daily flogs Viscount Monckton's "analysis" in a second article.
"Computer imaging experts have found it to be fraudulent"
None of which have training or experience in forensic document analysis, and all of which had bias before the long form was released.
"… and the conclusion of an official law enforcement investigation assembled by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is that it is just not real."
An "investigation" bought and paid for by World Nut Daily, Joseph Farah, and Jerome Corsi. An "investigation" in which no opposing points of view or factual evidence was allowed to be considered.
"But it wasn’t until now, through the work of the Christopher Monckton of Brenchley, that the world was informed just exactly what the odds are against all of those anomalies occurring naturally.
One in 62,500,000,000,000,000,000. (That’s 62.5 quintillion)
Or, if one prefers, the chances are 0.0000000000000000000016 that those curious developments happened by accident."
Based upon what exactly? An "analysis" by someone who:
1) Has a bias towards the subject
2) Provided no raw data or evidence to support his claims
3) Has no training in document analysis
4) Used faulty, misleading, or false data.
Most of the article is a pretty lazy rewrite of the original.
26 September - So the popstar Madonna makes a comment about President Obama being a "black Muslim".
Not surprisingly, the inmates at Birther Report go ape dump in response.
Starting with a death threat: (Bold face mine)
"Ralph Swain said…[Reply]Yup, Madonna, that slut, nailed it: black, muslim, gay. If this were baseball, he'd have three strikes and be out. If only we had a pitcher who could bean Obama things would be all right.
September 25, 2012 2:46 PM"
Ralphy really wants his Secret Service visit, doesn't he??
When he's not being a screaming racist that is:
"Ralph Swain said…[Reply]@Andy"Is it 80s day again? No? Then why is she relevant?"
LOL! Andy's terrified that the jig is up on his favorite jigaboo. Don't worry, Andy, with Madonna's "endorsement" I'm sure NObama will get the votes of every fag muslim! ROFLMAO! Now all he has to do is court the muslim child molesters and he'll be on easy street. Shouldn't be too hard, since Dr. Corsi had evidence of NObama's police record of molesting Sunday school kids.
September 25, 2012 5:59 PM "
Oh come on. If the human face rash had even the vaguest hint of something like that, he would have peed all over himself like a badly-trained teacup poodle, out of sheer excitement.
Look, paranoia!!
"Anonymous said…[Reply]I have a real bad feeling about the next 6 weeks. I don’t think we’re gonna have an election. I think he is gonna pull something like a phony national emergency and/or martial law and suspend the elections. I watched some of his speech today. He looked like the cat who ate the canary. The content was also about as radical as he has ever been, with clues of his true feelings/intent leaking out.
Coupled with something I read about a federal police officer warning someone to be close to home between now and the elections otherwise you may never get home is starting to make me think—is everybody ready?
September 25, 2012 3:39 PM "
26 September - The Huffington Post comments on Viscount Monckton's rather insane "mathematical ineligibility" claim.
"One in 62,500,000,000,000,000,000? At those odds, can we be sure that Barack Obama actually exists? Can we be sure that any of us are actually real? Perhaps this world we inhabit is nothing more than a mote of dust in the imagination of a child on "St. Elsewhere," a show that we non-existent people created, or did we? We are through the looking glass, people, if the looking glass, in fact, exists -- which it doesn't! (Probably.)Here is how Monckton's space algebra works: birthers have basically concluded that the real, live birth certificate is full of sketchy flaws. It's telling that they cannot settle on just one or two things they find off about it. Rather, they have collectively articulated the premise that Obama's birth certificate was one of the most painstakingly frauded-up pieces of government documentation ever assembled. At every turn, the mysterious cabal that apparently decided to aid and abet this great piece of trickery opted to meticulously foul up multiple parts of their work. So this is a story of a conspiracy whose perpetrators were simultaneously brilliant and hopelessly incompetent.
The piece cites examples of these individual "anomalies" -- such as “Lavishly funded bureaucracy uses wonky typewriter" -- and assigns them odds (in that case, 10:1). Then Monckton stabbed at his calculator for an hour or two to come up with the 62.5 quintillion figure. As a point of reference, it is estimated that the odds of picking a perfect NCAA bracket are a mere nine quintillion-to-one. So if you were smart enough to place a bet on Barack Obama's existence, way back when, you could probably buy the sun today, not that any birthers would honor the bet.
At any rate, the real tragedy here is that the birthers just aren't thinking big enough. Why settle for one in 62.5 quintillion when you could go for nonillions or decillions? It's not like any rational-minded person is going to check the "math."
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