In today's dispatches….
Oh, hell with it. I only thought that Dr. Kate, Birther Report, and Lame Cherry were the middens of birtherstan. Sadly in the last 48 hours, I was proven wrong.
"Freedom Outpost" and "Godfather Politics" have just earned my undying contempt and have also contributed to my rapidly falling opinion of the human race as a whole. The commenters on those sites will not be happy until the US Government is overthrown, the Constitution is on fire, and President Obama (plus his entire family) is executed live on TV.
You think I'm joking? Gods I wish I was. This is one of those times I WISH someone was bankrolling me, because quite frankly, those damned sites have made me sick to my stomach.
We also have Lawrence Sellin's first post-election hissy fit, complete with questionable math. Dr. Orly wants Viscount Monckton to join her crazy train. Gabe Zolna is showing himself to be a racist paranoid nut. Dan Lacey comes up with a new painting sure to really piss off Dr. Orly.
The Western Center for "Journalism" seems to have no problems at all with racist commentary. Dr. Orly comes up with Yet Another Lawsuit. And a birthed-related lawsuit in Tampa is amazingly over the top for sheer insanity,
10 December - "Freedom Outpost" reprints Viscount Monckton's November "affidavit".
"What would happen if it comes to be shown that Obama cannot hold the office of President due to his status of maybe not being a Natural Born citizen? Well, first all the Executive Orders he signed would become null and void as would all the other laws he signed and forced down the peoples throat! "
They do like their fantasy of the magic reset button, don't they?
"Now let us just look at a couple of Affidavits which show people of pretty high standing now believing that Obama has thrown a false Birth Certificate out to the public and very few have even questioned this. Lord Christopher Monckton of Brenchley, a former advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, and the first man to call attention to the possibility that “Global Warming” was a false idea was invited to go see the documents that Sheriff Arpaio had which seem to prove that Barack Obama is Not a Natural Born Citizen."
Because an affidavit from a known crank and crackpot with a history of lying and making outrageous claims is supposed to be helpful?
And the comments are about as special as you might think.
"Drogo Chubb • 4 hours ago −
This is the answer! It is time to water the Tree of Liberty…"
And another member of the 101st Fighting Keyboards is heard from.
"Hut Master • 2 hours ago −
Yes, and WE must invoke said remedy. Charge this TURD, and all his scumbag friends with First degree TREASON. Jail him and his evil wife."
Such charming, literate, well reasoned people…..
"Don • 5 hours ago − Robertz… I am an Oathkeeper… there are many of us who pledged support to the Constitution and not the Presidency. Be ready."
You use that word "Oathkeeper". I do not think you know what it means.
"Art • 3 hours ago −
Mary I think you hit the nail on the head,I agree 100% We are certainly outnumbered anymore.How did we let this happen?? Dial 1 for English,can you believe this?? No way to come back your right about that but how did this happen to the people in this country.?? Yes we are celebrating this Dec,15th our 82nd family reunion and the rest of this country can go to HELL !! I think Canada may be for me"
Yes, go to a country with gun ownership restrictions, nationalized healthcare, and a conservative party that makes many Democrats look like Rush Limbaugh.
I don't think you thought your cunning plan though.
"Raymond • 17 hours ago −
Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020."
Which are?
"2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ''Abed.''
Last I saw, Rev. Jesse Jackson was a Christian. And the Arabic word for black is "aswad" (also "sud" and "sawda")
Translation FAIL.
"3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith."
Yeah, funny how it's also an Abrahamic religion with the same roots as Judaism and Christianity.
"6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America – black gold. America’s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East."
Yet I suspect that "Raymond" gets cranky about anything like solar, wind, and other alternative energy sources.
"8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry."
Yes, how DARE they actually come to this country to contribute their professional talents!!!
"…Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way."
"And remember boys and girls. Eating a Shawarma or Hummus makes Baby Jesus cry"
"sandman • 5 hours ago −
It is a bad thing to say, but I thing Mr. McVay parked that truck in front of the wrong building! that and it was a terrible day, and I wish to convey and send my condolences to the families and all whom were affected that day! and I am very sorry to use this terrible event to express my opinion, but that is how I feel. The truth hurts all."
Ah, so you're upset the WRONG innocent Americans died then.
"Sandman" is a sick son of a bitch.
"freedom girl • 16 hours ago − What do we do now after they have achieved that? How can we get Our Country back?
"…you know, the one with a safe white republican president!"
"RBlakeH • 16 hours ago −
Revolution and a military coupe would be the only way."
Because nothing speaks louder about one's love for the Constitution than a Banana Republic-style military coup.
"boone1 • 15 hours ago −
It's called a civil war and we should be doing that now.We should sending these muslims and most of the blacks back to their own country."
"I mean look at them! They're actually acting like they have rights and are just as good as us white people!! What's wrong with them?? Don't they know their place!!"
"dangerouspatriot • 14 hours ago − Time to lock and load and wait for the bastards to come out and try to take our freedoms from us. I'm betting our military will be on our side and somehow, someway, we will oust obama from the White House and have it fumigated and cleaned for a rightful president. Too bad it won't happen because most of the people in this country are too blind and stupid to realize the TRUTH!!!"
And today's visit from the Secret Service goes to…..
"redrover • 11 hours ago − SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? JUST SIT AND WAIT TO BE KILLED-TAKEN OVER??..I DON'T THINK SO! IT IS TIME FOR A PLAN AND IT MUST BE DONE,NO MATTER WHO DOESN'T LIKE IT. REMOVE OBAMA FROM WA AND EVERYONE CONCERNED WITH THIS FARSE AND RE-BUILD IT FROM BOTTOM UP!…IF WE DO NOT DO THIS NO ONE WILL PEOPLE!!! IT IS UP TO US…..TIME TO COME OUT SWINGING!!!!"
Make that two visits.
"buddy • 18 hours ago
Revolution will solve the problem…"
"Sam Lasley • 18 hours ago
Gather a group and count me in."
And a few more keyboard commandoes.
"redrover • 11 hours ago − They are living high while it lasts and then will go into hiding like Hitlers crew did…while we suffer, starve and die fighting for what is left. SOMEONE NEEDS TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO TAKE THAT IDIOT OUT AnD WHY THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IS A TRUE QUESTION?….AND THEN TO SLAP US WITH A SECOND FOUR YEARS…WE SHOULD BE SHOUTING HELL NO!!! WHAT? ARE THE DEMS GOING TO TAKE TO THE STREETS AND SHOOT US ALL IF WE GO EN-MASS TO STOP THEM? WE CAN SHOOT TOO YA KNOW AND THEY CAN'T GET US ALL AT ONCE!!"
Red Rover, Red Rover, the Secret Service is about to come over…..
"rick jason • 19 hours ago − Who will step up and arrest this lying POS? Do we have a country that patriots have lost their balls?? Is there no true American left in all of our law enforcement/military??? Shrf. Joe at east calls him out. The proof is irrevocable! The Imposter is a PHONEY POTUS and there's no one in the country that will do anything about it! We are a doomed country mainly because our nation has lost it's moral compass and has allowed a criminal socialist to take over our wh. Everyone of us should be ashamed of what we have become. My own people disgust me!"
Nothing like being disgusted over the fact your country hasn't had a civil war or military coup.
"mtmountainman • 18 hours ago
Disagree with you on one point. When they come knocking on our doors to take our guns---THAT will be the beginning of the Civil War. American citizens are not going to roll over like the Aussies did. Most of the military does not support this fraud and I refuse to believe that there are many in the military that will fire on American citizens. With millions of armed citizens and most of the military, we will FINALLY get the country back on track, while cleaning house on the leftists while we're at it."
Boy, the 101st Fighting Keyboards are in rare form today.
"ARMYOF69 • 18 hours ago −
Sad but true. What we need is a general with brass balls."
By which they mean a general willing to violate the law, the Constitution, and their own sacred oath and honor. Got it.
"wtram46 • 16 hours ago
Ok, so lets unite and throw the imposter out!!!! Why is he still a problem and not in jail???"
Well……
charles beckman • 6 hours ago − First, he is protected by law enforcement. They all must be eliminated in order to remove the imposter. Will you fire the first shot?
If the Secret Service isn't monitoring "Freedom Outpost", they should.
"dbassd • 8 hours ago −
I call it treason and we need to deal with this common criminal in such a manner. I want to see him dance the dance, as he has hurt every American, and every citizen of the world. He is part and parcel, part of the problem, and needs to be removed and prosecuted fully. . ."
Case in point as to why they should.
"REDROVER • 12 hours ago −
SO WHAT IS THE REASON NO ONE WILL MAKE THIS MAN STEP DOWN AND FACE HIS LIES, CHALLENGE THE MESS HE HAS MADE OF EVERYTHING HE HAS TOUCHED?…HE IS A LIER, A FRAUD, A TREASONOUS MUSLIM….SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM AND WHAT THE HECK WAS THE FARCE OF A SECOND ELLECTION THAT WAS FULL OF FRAUD ABOUT?…HE IS MAKING A FRAUD OF US AND A LAUGHING STOCK ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT WE ARE SO STUPID AND WEAK THAT WE HAVE LET A COMMUNIST MUSLIN TAKE OVER AND WILL NOT RUN HIM OUT OF WA OR PUT HIM IN JAIL FOR TREASON!!?? OF COURSE HE WOULD BE TRIED AND FOUND GUILTY AND IT WOULD BE TOO JARING I GUESS FOR AMERICAN HISTORY TO HAVE TO EXECUTE A TRAITOR THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PRESIDENT AND A BLACK ONE AT THAT!!…OH NO THAT WOULD NEVER DO NOW WOULD IT? EVEN IF IT IS TRUE! IT ALL MAKES ME SICK! JUSTICE MUST BE DONE!….WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT OUR SO CALLED LEADERS AND THIS COUNTRY AND WHERE WE ARE HEADED?!!! WE WHOM WERE ONCE THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD, ARE NOW A JOKE!! SPINELESS AND WEAK AND BROKE……RIPE FOR THE PICKING AND TAKING OVER…IS THAT WHAT IS TO BECOME OF US…..I THINK NOT AND OBAMA MUST PAY THE PIPER! HE IS GUILTY OF MUCH TO ANSWER FOR TOO!"
"Redrover" is really jonesing for their Secret Service visit, aren't they??
"rchguns • 16 hours ago
I would love to believe that the truth would come out one way or the other. But it's never going to happen because Dirty Diaper Head Obama will move heaven and earth to see that it never comes to pass. This criminal has four more years to continue his systematic disassembly of America. The American people do not stand up for their rights as given to us by God and not by the federal government there is the possibility that we no longer deserve those rights. If Americans are not willing to put their lives on the line for their freedoms in the future of America is lost.
The absurd and the functionally illiterate are one of the main reasons he was elected again. The other reason can be seen in the statement coming out of Detroit where that obnoxious woman was basically yelling at Obama that he should bring the bacon back to Detroit sense we your people worked hard to get him elected.
This election was a fraud and a farce but unfortunately it may really be the last presidential election held in this country. Kings do not run for election they just seize power and kill anyone who gets in their way. All hail his Royal Majesty Dirty Diaper Head Obama."
Did I say third grade maturity level?? My bad, I meant second grade.
"RightStuff1944 • 18 hours ago −
Tyrants of old were usually taken down by someone very close to them. I'm certain it will happen with this one."
"ARMYOF69 • 19 hours ago It's Do OR Die……go get him."
"All4One1-4All • 6 hours ago
None of you get this and some never will. B.H.O. is the Factual "Manchurian Candidate"! This person has been bread for this opportunity by the Leftist, Liberal, Progressive, Socialist hiding behind the Democratic Ticket for years.
Their timing was purposeful and intentional. Let's face it, there's NO WAY the Democrats pull this off without the Republicans being just as corrupt as them. That's the reason why the Republicans haven't done a thing to refute this Usurper!
This is PURE TREASON and everyone on the HILL should be tried, and if found guilty, should be PUBLICALLY EXECUTED in the Streets by Hanging!
These people have let America down and now they need to pay!"
This isn't just the usual Obama Derangement Syndrome. These people won't be happy until they see President Obama dead.
"joespenthouse • 18 hours ago
I ask where are the real Patriot Americans who aren,t afraid of that skinny little scum bag and who aren,t afraid to call a spade a spade, if the msm where not made up of a bunch of socialist i would go in front of the camera and tell Barry to get the hell out of my country,yes as a veteran i have ownership of America,obuma would not make it as a brownie and by no means am i insulting the girl scouts,because like the boy scouts they to have ownership in America and the list goes on,but you can exclude the communist and socialist."
"Sam Lasley • 19 hours ago −
I can't understand why after four years of having a Kenyan phony SOB in the White House with his "beard" wife to cover the fact that he is and has been a practicing homosexual we are still fighting this uphill battle to get him out. Everything we have proven shows that he is not eligible to be president and yet all of the niggers, the white trash who are on welfare and food stamps and the Marxists can keep him in office. Is there nobody who has the courage and the clout to get him removed from office and out of our country?"
Racist much?
11 December - I was wondering when I would see the first post-election hissy-fit from Lawrence Sellin. Who is now at the Western Center for "Journalism".
"California is the poster child for the failed economic and social policies represented by Obama and the far left-wing-dominated Democrat Party that is sucking the lifeblood out of American society. Creating a new Constitutionally-based state composed of conservative California counties will drive a stake into the heart of the extremist, anti-American, brain-dead, Democrat carcass."
Spoken by someone who doesn't know California very well.
"In perhaps another Democrat-and union-rigged election (who votes in favor of tax increases?), the passage of Proposition 30, which created the highest state income tax in the nation, set off euphoria and expectations of higher spending for public employees. State bureaucrats immediately ramped up deficit spending far beyond the state’s $6 billion annual tax increase. Democrats thought they could hammer “the rich” with Proposition 30. It now appears, however, that high income earners have already “voted with their feet” by moving themselves and their businesses out of state, resulting in a $1 billion-plus shortfall in corporate and income taxes and the beginning of a new financial crisis."
Considering that Prop 30 passed on 6 November 2012, it's a bit early to say what effect it has on that state. And since, last time I checked, Sellin is still living as a defense contractor in Helsinki, Finland, one wonders what his fuss is about California.
"While calling for tax increases allegedly to support schools via Proposition 30, Democrat Governor Jerry Brown supported a questionable $68 billion high-speed rail project "
You mean the project that the voters voted for in 2008 while Arnold Schwarzenegger was Governor??
"For the survival of California and, by extension, the country, it is time to put an end to Democrat incompetence and profligacy. It is time to create a new state from the residents of thirty-seven of the fifty-eight California counties, who espouse more conservative principles than those of the radical left populations of the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas."
"37 counties", eh??
"The new state will operate according to strict adherence to the U.S. Constitution (in particular the 10th Amendment) and maintain a balanced budget. It will promote small government, low taxes, energy independence, entrepreneurship, individual liberty, and personal responsibility. The new state will enforce immigration laws, equal opportunity, English as the official language, term limits for elected officials, and secure its border with Mexico."
Rather lofty goals. And if English is going to be the official language, does that mean you're going to rename places like San Diego, San Bernardino, Madera, etc? Even the name "California" comes from a Spanish story.
The other problem is that your map is a bit skewed.
First off the map is marked as "2002". And it looks a lot like the 2004 California Presidential Election results.
However, let's look at the 2008 California Presidential Election results.
I see a lot more blue on that map.
As for the 2012 California Presidential Election results?
A little less blue - but a lot more blue than on Sellin's map.
Basically in 2008, 34 counties went for Sen. Obama. 24 went to Sen. McCain.
In 2012, 31 counties went to President Obama. 27 went to Gov. Romney.
In both cases, the number of counties that went "red" are less than the 37 counties Sellin wants to incorporate into his "New California"
I wouldn't say Sellin was trying to cook his data……but I really can't think of any other way to describe it.
"The greedy financiers, the corrupt politicians, and the dishonest press are all leading our country down a path to national suicide. They must be stopped at all costs.
"
"…at all costs", eh??
"Start by liberating California."
Even if it doesn't want to be "liberated"??
11 December - Dr. Orly and Viscount Monckton. Now there's a match made someplace infernal…. (malware and redirect warning)
"I NEED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH LORD MONKTON, I NEED THE ACTUAL SIGNED AFFIDAVIT FROM HIM TO FORWARD TO JUDGES
Posted on | December 11, 2012"
11 December - Another Gabe Zolna video. This time he seems to be on board with the whole "Frank Marshall Davis is Stanley Ann Dunham's real Baby Daddy" thing.
0:53 - "When I say his father, I'm referring to the sperm donor that provided the devil seed to his mother"
2:53 - "So the only hope we have is that these two judges, one in Alabama and one in Florida, demand that Obama release his records. Once that happens, this nightmare will end. And, um, it doesn't really matter who his father was. He's made the world aware that his father was, in fact, Obama Jr., I'm sorry, Obama Sr. And he says he's Obama Jr. Well, he's sorta cooked your own stew, didn't you? See, if you would have left Frank Marshall Davis, you wouldn't have had a problem because he was a devout communist. But you might have overcome that a whole lot easier than you could overcome faking that he wasn't your father. Good luck with it."
11 December - If this article from "Godfather Politics" is any indication, Klayman and his fellow birtherstani really are hoping that the former and future Alabama Chief Justice, Roy Moore, is their latest Great White Hope.
"What raises hopes for the success of this case lies with the members of the Alabama state Supreme Court. In an earlier hearing on the same argument the high court denied the petition by McInnish to require that Obama produce an original copy of his birth certificate. When Alabama’s High Court denied that earlier petition Justice Tom Parker filed an unpublished concurrence in the case stating that the charges of forgery were a legitimate concern.
In addition to Justice Parker, Klayman is counting on newly elected Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, Roy Moore. Chief Justice Moore is a strong advocate of constitutional law rather than ruling on the prevailing politics of the time. When Moore won re-election to the state Supreme Court he vowed that he will do his utmost to uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the Constitution of the state of Alabama."
(snip)
"Klayman is hoping that the skepticism of Justice Parker and the staunch stand for constitutional law by Chief Justice Moore will be enough to prove their case that Barack Hussein Obama has not provided the proper legal documentation to prove that he meets the eligibility requirements for president of the United States as set by the Constitution. This case above all others that I have seen in the past year stands the best chance of winning."
So their hope rests on someone who was ousted from office originally due to an unwillingness to follow US law or the Constitution, and his Neo-Confederate, racist, protégé The sad and stupid part is they may have a chance with those two on the court (assuming Klayman can delay the hearing until Moore takes office, which will be AFTER the Electoral College meets.)
And the comments are….well….
"obummerhater • a day agohe needs to be removed from office, everything he has done needs to be reversed and he needs to be imprisoned along with the heifer he is married to for crimes against our gov't and its people. There should be no mercy given to that anti-christ traitor!!!"
"Gene R Swank • a day ago −Treason is punishable by death, IE firing squad or better yet a public hanging along with his coconspirators Biden, pelosi and Reid. They have all commited treason!!!!!"
"flash • 14 hours ago −A trial could take years and Obummer has a flight of Attorney's. It would end up like O.J. Simpson and he would get away. Once he has been found guilty of impersonating our President, send him back to Kenya without money and in a pair of Jeans and T-shirt. Strip him of all his ill gotten gains and give him a lobotomy so he cannot tell anyone of his secrets he learned while in the Big White House. Take his mean Black wife and spoiled kids too.
"bobmann101 • a day ago −
As I have posted and commented many times I believe there are too many people who have been bought, bribed, blackmailed, threatened or their loved ones threatened and more on the list. If this statement is not true this unqualified, illegal, phony, lying, racist, bigot, half breed, foreign national, Muslim POTUS would not be in office!!!"
Again, someone who calls President Obama a "racist" and "bigot", and then calls him a "half breed" and "Muslim"…….
Hypocrite much?
But then, the comments get a lot darker, racist, and vicious.
"flash • 14 hours ago −Send him to that Island off of Itally that was used as an experiment for leathel chemicals. I think it was Anthrax. Let him get a dose of his own poison, be sure to take his entire family. Oh and all of them who stood behind him, like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, Susan Rice and well that is enough. It won't happen, but it is just out there.
"noelle2011 • a day ago
this is why WE NEED to go AROUND THE SENATE AND HOUSE AND USE MILITARY FORCE TO REMOVE THIS ILLEGAL POS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"LicketySplit • a day ago −I agree…as long as we are going to have a protracted Civil War i say…lets get it on…NOW! We need someone with gonads to get it started..plenty will follow:)"
"Robert W Velon • a day ago −I keep hoping for a military coup but it does not appear that it will happen. They could remove this phony and run the government until we could have a new election or give the election to Romney who lost his chance by fraud. Orly Taitz brought up a suit here in Cacafornia with proof of a million and a half illegal votes and it was dismissed…This shows us what we are up against when the courts will not follow the Constitution. It is going to be up to us the people to take our country back by whatever means available and that should include force if need be… This administration has declared war on the people with their illegal acts and it is about time the people returned the favor….
"LicketySplit • a day ago
…The sooner we get this revolution going the quicker we heal. No ands or ifs about it. Lets hamstring this communist/marxist impersonating as our president and do it quickly!"
"Rocky • a day ago −
He has that right he needs to be punished for his crimes,then Null & Void all he has done illegally because he is Fraudulently occupying the White House and with a fake military card,what happened to the Social Security card,whose card is it?You can see it in his eye's that he is caught red handed,no proper paper work for birth,school records,social security card,military draft card??? "Fry him".
"ThomNJ • a day ago −
There would be a terrifically LOOONG list of accomplices for that firing squad!"
"Ihatelibs • a day ago −
I'll pull the trigger!!"
"NRApatriot • 21 hours ago −
Not just Biden, Pelosi and Reid! Everyone in the entire administration is guilty of treason and should after a fair trial be marched out in front of the capitol building and very publicly HANGED!"
"cheryl spiegel • 7 hours ago −
A hearty Amen to that brother. However, in this upside down world, evil is good, bad people are honored, wisdom scoffed, and lawlessness is the law.
Aside from a coup, do you really think this nigerian dictator masquerading as president, will allow himself to be dethroned by anyone?"
"Bob Jones • 18 hours agoAnd all the money, property, etc that he has accumulated since usurping the presidency should be confiscated and used to repay the American taxpayers for the lavish lifestyle expenses that have been charged against We the People. This Coward-in-Chief has to pay for his lying about who and what he is, and for the numerous acts of Sedition and Treason he has committed since he first started squatting in The Peoples House!!! He needs to be taken into custody, hauled off to GITMO as the Marxist/Socialist/Muslim terrorist he is….be tried, convicted, and executed for High Treason!!!"
"NRApatriot • 21 hours ago
He is a pathological liar! He cannot and will not ever do so! Pity is the ones that voted for him do not care if he is trampling all over the constitution and making America the laughing stock of the entire world! He is a would be tyrant and if not stopped will ruin this nation so bad it can not recover! Going to be time to excersise our 2nd amendment right for what the founders had it put for very soon if he can't be stopped in the courts!"
"bpf53 • a day ago −Even if this judge rules against obama and it is proven that he is not eligible to be President he will not leave office! It will take a armed rebellion to remove this socialist from office and the question …."Is the American people ready for a civil war if needed"?"
"Patriot • a day ago
An armed rebellion can be arranged although it will probably just take the Sergeant of Arms and a few Federal Marshalls, although I would rather have Seal Team 6 do the honors! :)
We may need to have tanks in the street to keep the barbarians at bay and plenty if fire trucks to put out the fires which will probably be confined to black neighborhoods in major cities through the country, much like the 60;s however I expect and hope the body count will be much higher."
"gypsy314 • a day ago −
If our so called American law means anything they should up hold the law and throw the bum out. Most Americans know he is a traitor and never a citizen. to dame many liberal socialist covering up for this negro"
"snytz • a day ago −
All of the comments here today are spot on. Obama needs to be remove how ever, like the man said "show no mercy""
"Patriot • a day ago
We also need to remove his aunt and uncle who have been here for years in defiance of Court Orders and no doubt Obama had his hand in that as well. If they won't leave peacefully as ordered, then perhaps we can find a brick-wall someplace and some gun club volunteers whom I sure would love the opportunity to administer justice long over due.
"suzy2 • a day ago −
I so agree. I am so tierd of trying to make people see Obama's real agenda for America. Some people will simply remain dumb forever. If Obama is taken down it will be a happy day for America. I want him exposed and imprisoned. The penalty for treason is death."
"Vince • a day ago
That fraud would equate to treason
And according to the constitution it ain't pretty
What can be done to a treasonous person
If it turns out to be true it should be carried out for
All to see in the streets and on the net as a reminder to others that
Think they can get away with it"
"Sargent Mack • 15 hours ago −I have bad news for all of my true Americans and patriots. The GOP will never win the White House again. The Demogods have paid off to many non Americans that have a right to vote. The sold their vote for a phone, food stamps etc,etc. when I got out of the marine corps in 1972, I would watch the news talk about all off this groups playing war games in the med west. They would say the are getting ready for the government to take your land and your rights. I would just laugh and say to myself , not my government that I just sever 6 years fighting against just that. I laugh no more it is happening as I write this. There is only one way we can take this country back. And that is the second amendment and that is way the want to take that right away. The day is coming the THE PEOPLE is going to be forced to us. Semper Fi"
"jerryhulick • a day ago −
Please, please Alabama bring it on. Your the only state with nuggets to shove it down this half breeds throat. I hope you win
"Patriot • a day ago −
You'll be able to use them as toilet paper. All null and void. Biden would be out too.
Hopefully it will lead to a fury the likes this country hasn't seen in a long while where all these loons are properly dealt with and disposed of in the most horrific way that it will serve as a strong message to all traitors."
"Anne Caston • a day ago −
Obozo needs to be impeached and soon. I hope he goes down like a bomb as he is the worst we have ever had in the WH.A liar and a narcisstic boy who doesn't have a clue how to run anything."
I want you all to take a good long look at those comments. Because for all the fact they claim to defecate Red White & Blue, I don't see "Patriots". I don't even see "Americans".
I see a hoard of rabid monsters who are so consumed by their hatred that they're openly calling for civil war.
Openly calling for military coups.
Openly calling for the overthrow of the US Government in violation of the US Constitution.
Openly calling for the death of the President of the United States, his wife AND family.
Openly calling for the murder, in job lots, of any politician they disagree with.
The racist comments are the least offensive of any of this. These people are looking for a leader - any leader - that will allow them to give into their blood-soaked fantasies about teaching that "uppity negro" a "lesson". And they're fully willing and ready to pull that rope or pull that trigger, if it answers their sick "prayers" of seeing President Obama, his wife, his children, and anyone else they see as an enemy, dead. Worse, they see it as just and righteous.
These aren't "patriots". They don't care about the United States, or their fellow citizens. They don't give a rat's ass about the Constitution they so claim to adore. They are so upset that someone they can't even accept as HUMAN is President, that they're willing to destroy this country and everything it stands for. They are un-American scum, and I shan't call them by anything other than the scum they have shown themselves to be.
12 December - "Painter of Pancakes" Dan Lacey has another Dr. Orly-themed painting.
Wow. The thing freaks me out. Dr. Orly is gonna excrete 14ct gold bricks, perfectly mitered, when she sees this.
"A painting of the winged head of famed Birther Queen Dr. Orly Taitz giving oral birth to a Hostess Twinkie, from which emerges nude Ice-T Obama and Unicorn Coco, with pancakes. I call this painting 12 12 12.
Thanks to Greek Billionaire George Soros for sponsoring this new Orly Ebay painting. George called and requested a new painting after becoming aware of the Mississippi Democratic Executive Committee coming to my defense in response to Orly Taitz again citing me in her recent motion to have the election results nullified in the State of Mississippi -"
The funny thing is that she absolutely has no idea he's making fun of her, and will take this seriously.
(On update, eBay pulled it for "adults only" content. Dan Lacey writes about the painting here on his blog
"I may still do a little more work on the above. I had originally intended this as an online decoration for the coming Mayan apocalypse, before George suggested that it would make a swell 12 12 12 painting ( note the Mayan do in Orly's hair.) I may add a flaming meteoric pancake or two. "
*chuckle*)
12 December - There will come a time that Dr. Orly will find herself in a courtroom. She will look over at the defense table, and see a rhesus monkey in a suit, sitting next to an empty chair.
Confused, she will look up at the judge, and see a plate of pancakes instead.
That's when she'll wake up screaming.
12 December - It's looking more and more like the commenters at the Western Center for "Journalism" are getting more and more comfortable with letting their racist freak flag fly.
Either they don't believe in moderating their comments (which I'm not buying into, since they have an interesting track record of deleting comments that debunk their birther claims), or they simply don't see the need to pretend anymore that their base isn't a bunch of racist, seditious twit-weasels.
(Bold face mine)
"hangman says: December 10, 2012 at 6:44 pmto angedano. Blacks, like you said, have the gang member mentality, no guts unless a mob. The reason for their uniting is that they are basicly cowards. The white folks used to unite, but with so many of anglos mating with those nasty things, most anglos consider them family and don’t want to ‘annoy’ them. And Vectorup says that they can unite into a monster at a moment’s notice. Fact is, they ARE monsters, being that it would take about 6 million more years of evolution for them to reach human status. But I have found, by personally whipping black butts, that if you take on no more than eight or ten at a time, as soon as you whip the first couple, the rest will run, and proclaim to anyone that will listen that you whipped the handful of them by yourself because you are a racist. What needs to be done is like the good old days, when one crosses over to a non black neighborhood. whip their butts. That was done in the old days, and they knew their place. (Yessa,boss, I,m leaving, boss, don’t hit me again,boss. Time to UM-PAMPER them critters.
"skygirl_123 says: December 10, 2012 at 2:13 pmAll of these high profile blacks like JZ, Kanye West, Nobama and so many others are the ones who bring up the race card and try to blame everything on the other races. Kanye West and Jay Z both said when Nobama was running it was about time the black man got some recognization. If things don’t go the way they want it is all blamed on race.
I really think that the reason none of them will investigate into Obama and the crap he does and has done is because he is black and they are afraid of a race law suit. Like Ms ape Obama said she had never been prouder of America as she was when he was elected. For some reason everything is based on race. Obama gave the black farmers over 2 billion dollars for the treatment they received years and years ago. How about giving the white people money for the things the blacks have done like rape, murder, robbery etc of white people. I get so sick of this race BS because it is nothing more than a crutch for the poor black man as Kanye and Jay Z "
"DustyRoad says:
December 10, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I am really sorry Mr. Foxx, but tell me if you shoot all the white people, then who would support all them black people on walefair and food stamps, and Obamma Phones?
YOU?
I think not.LOL"
"berneemc says:
December 10, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Bring it on Boons, all boons are to stupid to realize they make up only 17% of the U.S. population, and whites make up 59%, The tribal chiefs in africa did rid their tribes of the lazy, useless, troublemaking boons from their tribes and sold the trash to the spanish & english slave traders. It will be very easy to rid the U.S. of all the black trash one and for all. It’s to bad lincoln was killed, his plan consisted of sending all the boons back to africa. Bet you didn’t know that historical fact did you , you low life trash boons."
"ReaperHD says: December 10, 2012 at 1:25 pmThis nigro is a waste of skin like the occupier in the WH. I’m quite sure the white people will remember this when all hell breaks out here and it’s statements like that and they wonder why there is racism."
"Watchdogman says:
December 10, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Best watch what you say black boy…it works both ways and us whites are very good at taking care of the enemy!"
"beautut1 says:
December 10, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Jamie Foxx thinks Obama is Black?….I have some bad news for him. I encourage all members and any race who are offended by this ass holes remarks to boycott this movie. If it wasn’t for the white man, Jamie Foxx would still be in Africa with a basket on his head with a spear in his hand and he would be the ugliest one there accept for Maxine Waters and that’s a fact! Take a good look at Detroit and see what the blacks have done to that city. It is only a matter of time before you and others like you fade into obscurity and I say to that: Good Rid dens. I admire and respect many blacks like Allen B. West but you, Jamie Foxx…..Never!
P.S. I’ll bet a white man or woman pays his salary."
"Lydia777 says:
December 10, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Why does black trash always look so much like IDIOTS? Because they are so good at it!"
"Larry says:
December 10, 2012 at 6:00 pm
This fool reminds me of a Jewish Radio Host in Denver Colorado who use to get on the Radio and insult the New Nazis. His show didn’t last too long after that because the Neo Nazis machine gunned him down in the parking lot one night when he got off. He doesn’t insult anyone anymore that’s for sure."
It really does seem like more and more birther/far-right sites and more and more birthers in general are dropping any pretense of being anything other than racist.
12 December - Gabe Zolna's being a busy YouTuber. Even making paranoid Islamophobic conspiracy videos in his underwear.
6:01 - "So what do I think? I think Obama is a radical extremist Muslim and, uh, his objective is, was, and will be, if he's allowed to remain in power, to bring the Sharia law to this country. Everything that he has done is to bring that exactly here as an eventuality. Everything else that he has done is nothing more than a diversion. That's all it is."
6:44 - "That isn't the objective. The objective is Sharia law, the Caliphate. You don't believe it, watch. If he's allowed to remain, watch what happens to this country."
12 December - Oh joy, YET ANOTHER DR. ORLY LAWSUIT. (Malware and redirect warning)
This time the courtroom props are James Grinols (the Minnesota Romney elector), along with the usual gang of idiots (Ed Noonan, Robert Odden, convict Keith Judd, and our old friend Thomas MacLeran.) The defendants are the ENTIRE Electoral College, California Gov. Jerry Brown, California SoS Debra Bowen, the "President of the Senate", and, of course, President Obama.
And it's a class-action lawsuit to boot!
"BREAKING NEWS! A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT FILED ON BEHALF OF PRESIDENTIAL ELECTORS AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SEEKING TO STAY CERTIFICATION OF VOTE FOR OBAMA BY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND BY CONGRESSDUE TO FRAUD AND USE OF FORGED IDS BY OBAMA
Posted on | December 12, 2012 "
(Scribd link here)
The complaint is 31 pages long. Most of it is the standard steaming pile of taitz she's so fond of squatting out on an unsuspecting court. However:
"James Grinols is a Republican party elector who was deprived of his right to participate in the electoral college 2012, due to the fact that Democratic party electors representing candidate Obama were seated based on fraud and use of forged lDs by Obama."
Funny, I thought he as "deprived of his right to participate in the electoral college 2012" due to the fact that Mitt Romney only got 44.96% of the vote in Minnesota. Odd thing that…..
"Robert Odden is a Libertarian party elector, who was deprived of his right to participate in the electoral college 2012, d ue to the fact that Democratic party electors representing candidate Obama were seated based on fraud and use of forged lDs by Obama."
Robert Odden is the Minnesota Libertarian Party State Chair. And again, I think he was "deprived of his right to participate in the electoral college 2012"
due to the fact that Gary Johnson only got 1.20% of the vote in Minnesota.
Also, Dr. Orly has only one courtroom prop….errr…..plaintiff that is actually FROM California. MacLeran is from Tennesse, and Grinols/Odden are both from Minnesota. Why the hell is this in a California Federal Court with California State Officials as defendants??
Speaking of MacLeran, I thought he told the judge in Mississippi he had toilet troubles and couldn't take part in any courtroom games……
"Plaintif'f Grinols is seeking certification as a representative of a class of Republican Party electors and electors in general.
Plaintiff Odden is seeking certification as a representative of a class of Libertarian Party electors and electors in general."
I wonder how either the Republican or Libertarian Parties feel about this?
"Plaintiff Judd is seekng certification as a representative of a class of the Democratic Party Presidential candidates and Presidential candidates in general"
I suspect this is news to the Democratic Party…….
"Plaintiff MacLeran is seekng certification as a representative of a class of Republican Party candidates and Presidential candidates in general"
Most of whom are going "Thomas who??"
"Due to the fact that high level officials are Defendants in this case, and due to high probability of pressure on the presiding judge, 7th Amendment right to jury trial is asserted and jury determination of all issues, facts and law is demanded in the hearing."
So right from the start, they're going to assume the judge is corrupt. Good to know.
The exhibits (108 pages) are (PDF) here: (Malware and redirect warning) Nothing new there though.
12 December - Dr. Orly claims a default judgement against Michael Astrue. Though for some reason she files the notice in her Mississippi case, rather than her case against Astrue.
(Scribd link here)
Like most of Dr. Orly's claims of default, it's based on the idea that Dr. Orly actually managed to effect proper service - something she's shown herself completely unable to do. And service against Michael Astrue falls into the category of "improper service".
Which, of course, doesn't stop her from depositing a 37 page taitz-filled diaper burrito to the court. The amusing part is:
"11. Without a motion to compel Taitz would not be able to obtain necessary information. Additionally, now there is evidence of defendants and their accomplices spoliating, destroying evidence. Recently some of the RICO co-conspirators took down a website “Fogbow” with a clear intent to destroy evidence. Similarly, Affidavits of Investigator Zullo (Exhibit 4) and Expert Irey (Exhibit 5 ) show a pattern of obstruction of Justice, evasion of law enforcement, tampering with evidence."
The Fogbow was off-line on 10 December due to relocating the site to a new hosting service, with the attendant DNS propagation delays. Of course, Dr. Orly just has to see this as proof of some deep dark conspiracy…..
12 December - This isn't COMPLETELY a birther lawsuit per se, but one of the attorneys listed is Van Irion. Birther buddy Herb Titus is also on board.
This was filed in Federal Court in Tampa on 6 November 2012.
"A class action lawsuit has been filed in the U.S. District Court at Tampa, on the behalf of all fifty (50) States and Commonwealths, demanding the immediate termination of all abortion-on-demand, plus all government-sponsored contraception within America, and to cease all related federal and state taxpayer funding and programs of the same, because four decades in loss of birth rates eventually collapsed our Economy in 2008."
Basically, the claim is that the economy crashed not because of failed economic polices, but because people weren't pumping out enough babies.
Also, only anti-abortion candidates can run for President in any party:
"Further, and because they are not only economically incompetent, but also historically immoral, routinely unethical, and consistently dishonest, a parallel petition within the case also demands the immediate disqualification and enjoinment of both Obama and Romney from becoming our next President, regardless of the alleged election "results" on November 6th (both main parties rigged software to cheat votes), and offering four alternatives to quickly correct for the new and proper White House, since all political parties must also now use authentic pro-life and pro-traditional-marriage candidates to help ensure best public support (enough votes) within any repeat of the election for President and Vice-President on December 14th, or soon after. Neither main party's voter base must be now forced to lose, simply because their faulty leadership's ringer candidate is now directly charged in the nefarious financial destruction of our America."
And the real Vice-President is Sarah Palin.
"In other words, the real law is that Palin and Biden were supposed to face each other, via ballots NOT connected to presidential candidates, in separate, head-to-head competition for the Vice-Presidency, and she is actually the rightfully-sitting Vice-President (because 30-40% of Democrats are pro-life, pro-traditional-marriage, and so on, let alone the raw power of the female vote). Likewise, Paul Ryan was supposed to be separately balloted, NOT on the same ballot with Romney. They can be on the road together if they like, but they cannot be on the same actual ballots. For example, every citizen had the perfect lawful right to vote for a combination of Romney/Biden, if they really wanted to, or McCain/Biden in 2008. Because all pre-paired ballots directly violate the 12th Amendment, the recent election is absolutely void, and a new election - using separate balloting - is required."
And here we get into some birther goodness:
"As if not enough already, Obama cannot even possibly, not even remotely, ever be a constitutionally-valid President. Forget all of the birth certificate/birthplace nonsense, because none of that matters. In the special case of Obama, who forever forfeited away his any U.S. citizenship, and who actually did that twice in his life, that left him with no citizenship here, i.e., whenever he finally returned to America, he had to get processed as an immigrant. Obama can only be - at the very best possible - a mere "naturalized" citizen, which is the third/bottom tier of U.S. citizenship, nowhere near the required life-maintained "natural born" top tier, hence he cannot even remotely, ever, be eligible as a constitutionally-valid President. It is 100% legal impossibility."
The lawsuit brief summary is here. Did you know the majority of states can overthrow the US Government?? (Yeah, neither did I. Or, for that matter, I suspect the US Government didn't know...)
"See the full Count III within the Verified Complaint, et seq., for complete details, but the bottom line is that a 3/5th majority of the fifty (50) States and Commonwealths may now declare the Federal Government in gross breaches of contract, temporarily take-over through the National Governors Association, effecting all necessary repairs, changes and upgrades, and then return the corrected government back unto a new set of management."
And the Federal Government has 99 days to:
"a) All three economic devastation issues covered in the first part of the instant suit, i.e., end abortion, state-sponsored contraception, and materially assisting LGBT;
b) Since fiat currency is inherently doomed, promptly re-install a modernized “gold standard” in two phases, using 7 precious metals, then adding 5 rare earth metals;
c) Declare the eventual $300+ billion/year “ObamaCare” as procedurally and totally void for at least four (4) constitutional reasons, any one (1) of which will end it;
d) Transform virtually all forms of welfare, from “free” handouts of money, services and other benefits, which returns nothing to taxpayers, into free (subsidized) jobs by the millions, in order to rebuild and modernize all our national infrastructure;
e) Harvest big data cleanups in all welfare systems, using $500 IRS rebate checks;
f) Either strike down, or now do actually enforce, the 12th Amendment’s requirement in strict, separate balloting between presidential and vice-presidential candidates;
g) And related, disqualify both Obama and Romney as utterly ineligible, unqualified, and unethical, choosing from four (4) alternatives in correcting our White House"
The "Declaration on Obama Ineligibility" is here (I will note I found it a few weeks ago at OBC, though I didn't know at the time what lawsuit it was attached to) It's 11 pages, most of which is a rehash of all the various birther claims and warmed-over de Vattelism, though it ALSO says none of those are the actual reason. No, the reason reason is - the Indonesian Citizen myth.
"Therefore, at approximately six (6) years of age, the young boy later known as Barack Obama forever lost his any former U.S. citizenship level that he may (or may not) have had. If he was actually the love child of Malcolm X or Frank Marshall Davis, or another pre-established U.S. citizen, then Barack Obama forever lost his any “natural born” level of citizenship, gone, poof. If he was actually the child of Kenyan citizen Barack Obama, Sr., and also actually born in Hawaii, then our current White House occupant never had the required “natural born” level to even begin with, but regardless, his former “native born” status (proven Hawaii birth place would get Obama to the second tier, or level, of citizenship, i.e., “native born”), if any he actually did have, was gone forever, forfeited, lost to all eternity. Whether at former “natural born” or former “native born” level, when his mother made him a new citizen of any foreign nation, his any U.S. citizenship was automatically cancelled and forfeited forever, pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1481, which now includes exception language in “eighteen years old [this]” and “eighteen years old [that]” as was amended in 1986 legislation, but during the time period in question, the 1960s, the language of 8 U.S.C. § 1481 automatically expatriated Barack Obama (then known as Barry Soetoro) from his any former U.S. citizenship, upon the chosen acts by his mother.
You can cry over spilled milk, but you cannot put the milk back into the glass. It is gone forever, never to be regained. When a balloon pops, that is it, all she wrote. It is done forever, never to be filled with air again. When the rain falls, you can’t put it back into the clouds. It is done, irreversible. A little leaven leavens the whole loaf. What’s done is done, they say, sayonara. At the age of six (6) years old, Barack Obama forever lost any claim to either “natural born” or “native born” citizenship status level, if any he actually did have prior. Gone – forever – was his any higher level of U.S. citizenship.
Sure, it is technically possible that, upon returning later to America, Stanley Ann(e) Dunham might have actually filled out all of the immigration naturalization paperwork for at least little Barry, if not also for herself, and as long as it was signed and submitted properly, and officially approved and filed, etc., then it is technically possible that little Barry was “naturalized” into a U.S. citizen again, but that only makes Barack Obama just a “naturalized” citizen, at best, i.e., the third/lowest level of U.S. citizenship, which obviously does not rise to the same requirement level threshold of “natural born” status.
In other words, already at the young age of just six (6) years old, his mother’s acts against the then-current law of 8 U.S.C. § 1481 forever precluded his any Presidency."
Well, except for the Nationality Act of 1940, Section 401, Nationality Act of 1940, Section 407, the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, Title III, Chapter 3, section 349 (a), the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, Title III, Chapter 3, section 35......
Oh, and the Pakistan Travel Ban myth is also there:
"But, as if not enough already, Barack Obama did it to himself, a second time, in 1981, when as a college-aged young adult he again, and voluntarily, forever forfeited his any former U.S. citizenship level, if any he actually had, even including also that technically possible “naturalized” citizenship level that his mother might have obtained for him, by willfully choosing to disregard the U.S. State Department’s “banned list” at the time for various foreign nations, and for at least three (3) weeks entering/visiting Pakistan, which was on that no-no, off limits, banned list – automatically invoking forfeiture of his any U.S. citizenship, pursuant to clear, no-nonsense State Dept. rules in effect at the time."
Funny how they've never been able to FIND any of these "clear, no-nonsense State Dept. rules" supporting such a claim.
Thank you for providing an important public service by monitoring and exposing these rabid, racist, bloodthirsty monsters. I sure hope the Secret Service watches your site.
Posted by: SuzieC | December 12, 2012 at 04:41 PM
where oh where do these people live, since they must suffer so much every time they see a black person walk about normally............
sick bastards; sorry, not a nice expression, but they are sick bastards!
Posted by: Greenfinches | December 12, 2012 at 04:56 PM
I can see a lot of these so-called patriots, ending themselves, when they realize they are not going to get their civil war. Good riddance to them, just so long as they don't take anyone else with them.
Posted by: Andrew Vrba, PmG | December 12, 2012 at 05:46 PM
Thanks for doing this.
Posted by: Craig | December 12, 2012 at 06:54 PM
For the first time since I've been coming to this site, I actually had trouble finishing a report. What loathsome people! What sad, pathetic excuses they are! I too hopes the Secret Service reads this site; those jokers are an atrocity waiting to happen.
Keep up the good work...and take some Tums®.
Posted by: GMpilot | December 12, 2012 at 07:39 PM
What I find most hilarious is that these troglodytes actually seem to think Liberals don't have guns. That we are intimidated by all their talk of Second Amendment uprisings.
Well, in case you guys read this site, listen up.
I've got maybe $35,000 worth of a variety of high-quality firearms. I have taken home-protection and combat courses, and keep my shooting skills sharp at the local range.
I have close buddies who are ex-armed forces and current cops. You know what? They don't think like you. Even those who vote Republican (and FYI, several of them didn't this time, because Romney and Ryan turned their stomachs) also respect the Democratic Process and the Rule of Law, and will NOT be joining you if you ever make good on your adorable, pathetic little calls for armed revolt.
They are quite ready for you. As am I. They will shoot to kill if you endanger them with deadly force in public, and I can and will blow your brains out if you attack me and my family on our property.
I was a vehement critic of George Bush's administration. But we called for him to be IMPEACHED, not lynched for Christ's sake. Why? Because we are better and more loyal Americans than you.
So bring it on, clowns. You're big and bad behind those keyboards, but I don't see you following through.
Bet your wives/sisters say the same thing.
Posted by: Thomas Brown | December 12, 2012 at 07:40 PM
Military coupe - 2-door Hummer?
Posted by: Donna | December 12, 2012 at 10:21 PM
> Jail him and his evil wife.
I haven't paid much attention to the birther hatred of Michelle Obama until now, but it seems it is growing, too.
Since she doesn't have any real power to "destroy America", this hatred can only have non-political roots. And of course she's the antithesis to everything the old white folks cherish - she's black, she's a woman, she resides in the White House, she is the symbol of a happy and successful marriage with da ebil usurper etc.
Posted by: The Magic M | December 13, 2012 at 02:09 AM
@Thomas Brown:
> I've got maybe $35,000 worth of a variety of high-quality firearms.
Wow. I paid less than that for my (used) 500 hp car. And of course I couldn't legally own any gun in my country.
Posted by: The Magic M | December 13, 2012 at 02:10 AM
@MM: I have discovered in other fields of endeavor that if you buy cheap bargain stuff it feels good at first, but when you try to sell it you get nothing. When you buy mid-grade, you get back a small percentage of what you paid. But when you buy top-of-the-line stuff, because of the near-universal decline in quality of everything you can often get back nearly what you paid for it, and sometimes MORE than you paid.
So it ends up costing less in the long run.
Consider: a major vintage BMW motorcycle dealer in Atlanta always offers to buy back any classic motorcycle in 5 years for the exact amount you paid him, as long as it's still in good shape. That means that other than maintenance and operating expenses, you get to ride a splendid machine for years for nearly nothing.
The same applies to first-rate firearms like H-K, Sig-Sauer, etc.
Of course, I must congratulate you on living in a country where you don't need to be armed to the teeth because psychotic right-wing nutballs believe you are a traitor to your country if you're a liberal... who say things like "the only good liberal (or Muslim, or 'queer') is a dead one."
Posted by: Thomas Brown | December 13, 2012 at 06:50 AM
I got two parody comments through moderation on Orly's blog today. I'm using television character names.
Posted by: Bob | December 13, 2012 at 10:01 AM
So "Art", who doesn't want to "press 1 for English", wants to move to Canada? Not only does Canada have the things you said, it also has two official languages. Plus Nunavut and the Northwest Territories recognize several native languages. He'd probably love "press 2 for French, 3 for Cree."
Posted by: Origuy | December 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM
What...is...that...painting?
I have a headache now.
Posted by: Signy Ragnvaldsdottir | December 13, 2012 at 07:32 PM
@TB:
> But when you buy top-of-the-line stuff
Yes, my father always said "He who buys cheap, buys twice". ;)
I also buy top-of-the-line stuff only, but I wouldn't probably spend that much on guns, even if I lived in the US. I suppose one would suffice for me, and a good Walther PPK costs less than $500 as far as I can remember.
We also have our own share of right-wing extremists who would like to kill everyone non-white or left-leaning, but I don't think it solves the problem if *everyone* can own a gun. (But I digress, I won't go into the debate whether bans on guns are good or not. ;))
Posted by: The Magic M | December 14, 2012 at 02:51 AM