In today's dispatches, Gary Kreep makes the transition from a corrupt attorney to a possibly corrupt judge. You know, it's almost a shame that Dr. Orly and Judge Kreep hate each other so much, since he would make the perfect "one honest judge" for Dr. Orly's little jihad.
More conspiracy-mongering at World Nut Daily, while Joseph Farah whines over the fact that the right-wing prayer breakfast doesn't want to too much birther splashed on them. The birtherstani are still thrilled over Dr. Orly's upcoming loss in the Supreme Court.
Two entries in the "You're NOT helping" department. A Tennessee gun trainer makes responsible gun owners face-palm in sheer annoyance, while liberal talk show host Mike Malloy manages to make debunkers jobs that much more difficult. Pam Barnett delivers some taitz piles to elected officials.
"Conservative Treehouse" has some rather clueless members. Cody Judy whines to the Supreme Court. Dr. Orly is still trying to make Arpaio and Zullo do her bidding instead of Corsi's bidding.
7 January - Here comes de (ethically challenged, far-right crank) judge.
"Gary Kreep and two other new Superior Court judges took office Monday during ceremonies at the county courthouse.
About thirty people gathered to witness Kreep take an oath of office. Assistant Presiding Judge David Danielsen administered the oath, explaining the ceremony marked Kreep's transition from his "former life."
"This is a line of demarcation from the advocate he has been for a number of causes," Danielsen said. "He now serves a new role for one primary and singular client, and that is delivering justice to people of the state of California, and specifically in this community."
As a private-practice attorney, Kreep took up many conservative causes, including petitioning the Supreme Court to review President Barack Obama's eligibility to serve. Kreep told KPBS in June that he had “sincere doubts” that President Obama is a U.S. citizen.
After taking his oath, Kreep thanked those gathered and asked that God guide him "to do what is just and right and fair."
Gary Kreep has never done "what is just and right and fair", so why start now??
8 January - Over at World Nut Daily, Jack Cashill tries to tie the 2008 State Department passport breech to President Obama's choice for the CIA.
"The Washington Post headlined the story on March 22, 2008, “Rice Apologizes For Breach of Passport Data; Employees Looked at Files On Obama, Clinton, McCain.”
The “Rice” in question was Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. The offended party in the Post story was Barack Obama. He told reporters that he expected “a full and thorough investigation,” one that “should be done in conjunction with those congressional committees that have oversight function so it’s not simply an internal matter.”
It was not until the 13th paragraph of the Post story that the reader learned that of one of the three contract employees caught in the act worked for the Analysis Corporation, the CEO of which was Brennan.
The Post did report that Brennan donated $2,300 to the Obama campaign but suggested no deeper tie. This information was offset by the revelation that the other two culpable contract employees worked for Stanley Inc., whose CEO, Philip Nolan, contributed $1,000 to the Clinton campaign.
Stanley, however, had been handling passport work for 15 years and had just been awarded a five-year, $570 million contract. The company had no reason to play favorites in the 2008 campaign. It promptly fired the two employees, neither of whom was likely working at the directive of Nolan or of the Clinton campaign.
Unlike Stanley Inc., a huge government contractor listed on the New York Stock Exchange, Analysis Corp. had fewer than 100 employees, and its one culpable employee apparently escaped discipline. The Post article told us only that “his or her employment status is under review."
So Brennan is supposed to be responsible for the misdeeds of a contractor? Sounds like his company did exactly what they were supposed to do - review the employees' status. (If I remember correctly, they were later fired).
And in comments:
"Rachael N. Jacobs • a day ago −
Jack, we don't have an American government anymore. We have a government at war with the American people . . . at least those that didn't vote for this regime. It's time to start over with a new government without Illuminati, New World Order, satanic participation. This nation had best wake up and put a new government in place that can take out (meaning lawfully replace) the one that is there illegally.
I suspect the "lawfully replace" part was a simple CYA move…
9 January - Dr. Orly's SCOTUS conference makes Huffington Post.
"The roughly 10,000 petitions that the court receives annually are referred to the regular conference meetings for discussion, then around 100 are picked by the justices for oral arguments and a final decision. The votes of four justices in the conference are needed to schedule arguments. The scheduling comes a week after another birther activist suggested impeaching Roberts if he attempted to swear-in Obama later this month.
The long odds have not deterred Taitz, a lawyer, dentist and real estate agent in Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif., from celebrating Wednesday's decision. Taitz filed the case on behalf of Edward Noonan, who won the American Independent Party presidential primary in California, Thomas Gregory MacLeran, who ran for the Republican presidential nomination, and Keith Judd, who challenged Obama in the Democratic primary. Judd, who is currently in federal prison, received 41 percent of the vote against Obama in the West Virginia primary. Taitz has said that if Obama was disqualified from the ballot Judd would have been the Democratic presidential nominee based on his West Virginia votes.
Taitz's case argues that Obama is using false identification, a fake last name, a false Social Security number and forged birth certificates, and Selective Service applications to run for president. She originally filed the lawsuit against California Secretary of State Debra Bowen (D) in her attempt to prevent California's electoral votes from being counted and to prevent Vice President Joe Biden from counting the electoral votes earlier this month. "
10 January - In today's episode of "You're Not Helping!", meet James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response.
"After the Drudge Report likened Obama to Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin on Wednesday, pro-gun conservatives expressed outrage over the idea that the White House could act without Congress.
“Vice President [Joe] Biden is asking the president to bypass Congress and use executive privilege, executive order to ban assault rifles and to impose stricter gun control,” Yeager explained in his video message. “Fuck that.”
“I’m telling you that if that happens, it’s going to spark a civil war, and I’ll be glad to fire the first shot. I’m not putting up with it. You shouldn’t put up with it. And I need all you patriots to start thinking about what you’re going to do, load your damn mags, make sure your rifle’s clean, pack a backpack with some food in it and get ready to fight.”
The CEO concluded: “I’m not fucking putting up with this. I’m not letting my country be ruled by a dictator. I’m not letting anybody take my guns! If it goes one inch further, I’m going to start killing people.”
He later reposted the video with the part about "killing people" removed. Gee, I wonder why…….
10 January - Dr. Orly posts "proof of service" in her electoral college case.
(Scribd link here)
Basically Pam Barnett dropped off these steaming piles of taitz on the counsels for California Secretary of State Debra Bowen, California Governor Jerry Brown, and a "legal assistant" at the Sacramento US Attorney's office.
The thing is, Barnett did this all on the 7th of January. I seem to remember Dr. Orly SWEARING to the court on the 3rd that Dr. Orly already done all of this….
10 January - For the record, here are the questions Dr. Orly submitted to the Supreme Court of the United States on 9 December 2012, in her appeal of Noonan v Bowen. (malware and redirect warning)
"Questions for the court
1. Can a foreign national be allowed to usurp the position of the U.S. President and Commander in Chief by virtue of fraud and by using forged IDs and a stolen Social Security number
2. Do judges and bureaucrats commit high treason, when they cover up forgery and fraud in IDs of a foreign national Barack Hussein Obama usurping the U.S. Presidency?
3. Does usurpation of the U.S. presidency by a foreign national with forged IDs and a stolen Social Security number means occupation and suspension of the U.S. laws and deprivation of civil rights of the U.S. citizens? If U.S. laws are suspended, which laws are we following?
4. Are US citizens required to follow any U.S. laws, such as paying taxes and risking lives in the military, when the U.S. presidency is usurped by a foreign national with forged IDs and a stolen SSN and high ranking officials and judges are committing treason by covering it up?
5. How do the U.S. citizens know that high ranked judges of the Supreme Court of CA and the Supreme Court of the U.S. actually made any rulings on their cases, or even read one single word of the pleadings, when the clerks and court employees routinely lose documents, manipulate the dockets, misrepresent the rules of the court and type the names of the judges on the rulings, while there are no actual signatures of judges anywhere?
6. Are U.S. citizens justified in revolting against the regime, where the position of the U.S. President and commander in chief is usurped by a foreign national using forged IDs and a stolen Social Security number and corrupt and treasonous governmental officials are committing treason and covering it up?"
What gets me is if the Supreme Court tells her "no", (like they're more likely going to do), then Dr. Orly is going to assume the answers to #2, 4, and 6 and "yes", and goad her cavity creeps accordingly.
She's starting to cross the line into open sedition, and openly threatening the courts.
10 January - Riding World Nut Daily's coat-tails again, Birther Report chimes on on Cashill's Jack Brennan conspiracy piece.
And look! It's a professional seditionist!
"Sharon Rondeau · 7 hours ago
I'm very hopeful about this angle. This could be the kernel of what becomes the giant snowball of the ouster of the usurper in our White House. Finally! This is it! Is there a Congressman I should write to or a petition to sign? And, pass the popcorn."
Dope springs eternal. And how funny that the Pest and eFail's "Chief Editor" would be hanging around a place as openly seditionist and racist as Birther Report….
10 January - Someone fell out of the "Conservative Treehouse" and hit every stupid branch on the way down, as "Sundance" rehashes the tired old "Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia" myth.
"Again, consider Obama reportedly walked away from a full ride scholarship at Occidental the summer of 81′ never to return. Instead he turns up, on paper only, at Columbia University the fall of 82′. But no-one, I mean NO-ONE has ever noted him ever having attended there"
O RLY??
"1) “Columbia University will not divulge whether the “alleged” diploma issued was in the name of Barry Soetoro or Barack Hussein Obama. No public record exists regarding the diploma.”
2) “Obama alleges he attended Columbia in 1982, 1983. But, the investigators have been UNABLE to turn up a single shred of written documentation for the years 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984 that show where Obama appeared on a school roster, register, faculty memo, bulletin board, school awards, dean’s list; where Obama’s name appeared in a yearbook, club record, fraternity record, extra curricular activity member roster, student newspaper, student radio or TV activity; where Obama appeared in any records as a worker, employee, laborer in or about Columbia University; where Obama enrolled in any sports activity or program.”
3) “As a graduating senior in 1983 he does not appear in any Political Science (his major) or Graduating Class yearbook or invitation records.”
4) “There is absolutely no documentation of any kind to show Obama attended, lived, worked or played at Columbia University during the investigated 4 years.”
5) “Interviewed professors, college employees, students (who were at Columbia during the years in question) have failed to turn up a single person that can remember Obama. This is irrefutable evidence. Think about your own situation if Obama had attended your college? A “now-famous” person went to your school? Many would be able to say, “Of course I remember.” At Columbia, not a single person has been able to say he or she remembers Obama.”"
Their "proof"?? A dead link to the "American Grand Jury" report on James Manning's fake trial. (Internet Archive copy from 19 May 2011 here). So not only is the only proof they offer biased, it's NOT EVEN FUNCTIONAL ANYMORE.
The snark, it writes itself.
BTW, quite a few Columbia students and faculty members remember Barack Obama, Jr.
10 January - Daniel Noe at the Western Center for "Journalism" reports on Dr. Orly's brainless press release.
(Bold face mine)
"I am hoping and praying that the Supreme Court executes swift justice against Barack Hussein Obama…"
Rather……interesting……word choice there. Dog whistle much??
10 January - Cody Judy writes a whiney letter to Chief Justice John Roberts.
(Scribd link here)
"With the interest of a single Justice, the Respondent/Defendant is given a courtesy letter from theSCOTUS to respond, and that did not happen in my case originally, or in the Reconsideration. Because of your interest a case, dating back 4 years, was recommended for conference of the full court and this action2 days after a complete rejection of my case Judy v. Obama 12-5276 is really a complete confusion of theCourt, leading me to believe that my case is simply not being seen by any of the justices and is being “black-bagged” or “dead-listed” by Clerks."
Translation - "Wahhh! You told me NO!! WAHHHHHHH!!!!"
"If indeed it is the pursuit of the Court to evade the issue, I‟d just like as a matter of rest for myself, to know from you, that you indeed had received word of my case, and that I hadn't shadow boxed with theCourt Clerks knowing that the Justices were in the dark on my case.
Indeed my case is not a “paid” case, and is relying on the grace of justice permitted by the public, and in such I do hope not to abuse such in any way, shape, or form by honorably pursuing the ends afforded.
Thank you for your time and attention. If I could even receive a word from your personal clerk that indeed my case had been given the attention and that my Motion for an Emergency Hearing was denied, I would at least be able to rest in this matter. It would be a great service to our Country to head this matter up before the inauguration"
I suspect the Chief Justice of the United States has much better things to do than to reassure a mentally-unstable ex-felon.
10 January - James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response, simply doesn't know when to shut the hell up
"Yeager opened the latest video saying that he "probably allowed my mouth to overrun my logic,"
Gee, you think??
"…and announced he had edted some of the more heated comments out of his previous video and reposted it. Then he added: "But I don't, I don't retract any of my statements."
Looks like his mouth is still overriding his brain.
"Yeager continued to get worked up over the Obama administration's "tyranny" and talked urged people to pack backpacks, get in shape, and load their guns. He said that his first video had "accidentally assembled an army … a quite formidable army."
Yeah, a bunch of yahoos that make responsible gun owners like me cringe in disgust.
"He also asked those who "stole" and posted the unedited video version of his first video, which includes the statement about killing people, to take those videos down."
Gee, I can't imagine why…..
"Yeager, the CEO of Tactical Response in Camden, Tenn., claims on his website to be "TN Department Of Safety Certified Firearms Instructor," but a spokesperson for the department told TPM this is not the case."
Somehow this fails to surprise me.
10 January - So about James Yeager lying about his credentials…..
"On his personal website, Yeager's Corner, Yeager says he's a "TN Department Of Safety Certified Firearms Instructor."
But Dalya Qualls, a spokesperson for the Department of Safety and Homeland Security, told TPM that's just not the case.
"I have confirmed with our Handgun Unit that Mr. Yeager is not a Department of Safety and Homeland Security certified handgun instructor and Tactical Response is not a department certified school," Qualls said in an email.
Though Yeager lists himself as a "firearms instructor," Qualls told TPM he is not certified by the department and that there is no such certification offered. "
*Faceplant* Dude, YOU'RE NOT HELPING!!!!
"A Tactical Response employee who picked up the phone at the company's Camden, Tenn. headquarters told TPM the company was not responding to questions about Yeager and hung up after being pressed on the certifications. "
Somehow this fails to surprise me.
10 January - Dr. Orly is still trying to bully Joe Arpaio and Mike Zullo, Boy Defective. (malware and redirect warning)
"GO TO TEA PARTY EVENT IN SURPRISE AZ ON JANUARY 15 AND DEMAND THAT ARPAIO AND ZULLO FILE IMMEDIATELY THEIR CRIMINAL COMPLAINT AGAINST OBAMA, REGISTRAR ONAKA, COMMISSIONER OF CCA ASTRUE AND DIRECTOR OF SELECTIVE SERVICE ROMO
Posted on | January 10, 2013"
It's a bit over ten months since their first regurgitation of Corsi's lies press conference. If Arpaio hasn't filed the "evidence" from the Maricopa CCCP with a prosecutor or attorney general by now, he's NOT going to.
The last thing they want is any of the "evidence" to be cross-examined in an actual courtroom.
"The difference between him and the ordinary citizens is that he can file a criminal complaint with the District Attorney and the District Attorney has to act on it. If we, as citizens, file a criminal complaint, DA and AG and US attorney throw it in the garbage or tell you to go to the sheriff."
Whereas a sheriff or other law enforcement officer can get into some hot water if they file a criminal complaint with evidence as spotty and invalid as the birthers routinely tout.
"Arpaio has all the evidence. I brought it to him and so did others."
He may have parroted some of the same lies you do, but everything he spouted came straight from Jerome Corsi's ass.
"Go there and demand that they file the complaint with all of their evidence with forged Obama’s IDs with Maricopa County District attorney, Attorney General of Az and US attorney. If he is not filing a criminal complaint with all the evidence, then he is committing treason and criminally complicit in cover up, more so than sheriffs, who do not have the evidence and do not know what is going on."
*Laugh!!* She just accused Mike Zullo and Joe Arpaio of treason. I love it.
"Arpaio and Zullo did press conferences and reported that Obama’s IDs are a forgery. They have to act immediately or refund the donors all the money that was given to them or donors can sue them for raising money under false pretenses and for being criminally complicit in cover up of forged IDs of the sitting US President."
Oh come on. You honestly think all that money was because Apraio went birther?? Hell no, it was simply his routine campaign fundraising. He's been bilking the rubes a lot longer than you have, nitrous-brain.
10 January - Dear Mike Malloy, YOU'RE NOT HELPING!!!!
"These goddamn birthers! Will you people please, please get together with your AR-15s in a big circle, pointing circle and on my count, OPEN FIRE!"
Great, you've now riled the birtherstani. Thanks a pant load.
Idiot.
10 January - Awwww. Poor Joey Farah. None of the cool kids want much to do with him anymore.
"WorldNetDaily founder and birther conspiracy theorist Joseph Farah will not be among the speakers at a right-wing Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast according to the event's organizer, who criticized his work and said he had been incorrectly listed as a featured guest. It's surprising that Farah is considered too toxic to speak at the event -- which his publication had promoted -- considering the history of its organizer and other reported attendees.
Rev. Merrie Turner, the conservative pastor who is hosting the event and says she has done so since 1993, told Media Matters, "It is against my beliefs to be openly targeting someone like the president of our country, we have enough enemies outside the country."
Turner said Farah's name had been wrongly listed among the speakers headlining the January 21 event and would be removed: "It was incorrectly picked up by our staff, I am going to be correcting that." Farah's website had also reported that he was a "distinguished guest" who was "scheduled to appear at the breakfast to lead prayers for the nation."
So who is still going??
"Prayer breakfast materials still list Rep. Michelle Bachmann and televangelist Pat Robertson as "Special Guests & Speakers" for the event. But Farah's name has been removed since Media Matters contacted the organization. His name still appears in a press release announcing the event, and a flyer linked to on the prayer breakfast site also features Farah's name and picture."
It's bad when you're considered too insane to appear next to Michelle Bachmann and Pat Robertson.
"Asked if she was aware of Farah's past anti-Obama work, Turner said, "I was not, honestly."
Why do I have my doubts about that??
But don't worry. There will be a birther there.
"Other reported attendees like Pat Boone also have a history of attacking President Obama with the types of offensive conspiracy theories endorsed by Farah. In 2011, Boone told the San Francisco Chronicle that he believed Obama's birth certificate was a "photo-shopped fraud" and that the president was really born in Kenya. "
Poor little Joey Farah. Maybe he can have Larry Klayman sue the organizers for their snub.
11 January - In her Mississippi Birther Ballot Jihad, Dr. Orly demands default judgement against the commissioner of the Social Security Administration. Which she files with the Court of Appeals, since it seems she doesn't think the lower court is moving fast enough for her tastes. (Oh, and she didn't properly service the SSA commissioner, but what else is new?)
(Scribd link here)
Scribd link to petition here)
The petition is a 48 page steaming pile of taitz. And if they don't do her bidding?
"If this court does not grant the motion, this court will become complicit in the cover up of fraud and forgery in Obama' s IDs."
She really does seem to enjoy threatening the courts…..
11 January - Gee, I wonder why??
"Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security has suspended the handgun carry permit of a local man who threatened to "start killing people" to protect his Second Amendment right.
In a statement released Friday officials said they had suspended the handgun carry permit of James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response based on "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public".
On Thursday, a video of Yeager angrily claiming he would "start killing people" if President Barack Obama moved forward with gun control measures began to go viral on the internet.
"The number one priority for our department is to ensure the public's safety. Mr. Yeager's comments were irresponsible, dangerous, and deserved our immediate attention. Due to our concern, as well as that of law enforcement, his handgun permit was suspended immediately. We have notified Mr. Yeager about the suspension today via e-mail. He will receive an official notification of his suspension through the mail," Commissioner Bill Gibbons said."
11 January - Trust Birther Report to not only go apedump over Mike Malloy's stupid comment, but to misinterpret it:
"Shock Video: Progressive Radio Host Mike Malloy Calls For Mass Killing Of Birthers"
Actually he was calling for you all to form a circle and shoot each other. More mass suicide than mass killing. Which doesn't change the fact that Malloy was an idiot for saying it.
There's also this classy picture that's NOT AT ALL A THREAT or anything (/sarcasm):
See, Mr. Malloy, this is why you don't make stupid comments like that. Because you're dealing with a group of mentally unstable conspiracy nuts who LOVE to babble about "revolts", "military coups", "armed uprisings" and "second amendment solutions",
And then you get comments like (bold face mine):
"Big Bob · 2 hours ago
Remember when FDR {Said}
As JAPAN attacked Peril Harbor.
He said “Japan has awakened a Sleeping Giant”
I truly believe (Because of Obama) AMERICA has Awakened from a LONG SLEEP.
We have taken too much for Granted and Allowed Washington to Grant themselves way too much POWER. (Remember they Work For us and we are their, “Boss”.
It is time for Washington to know and realize, That “WE THE PEOPLE” can Remove all or part of you from Office.
Signed, We The People."
"Richard · 2 hours ago
I don't post here very often, but this article really struck a nerve. I had typed up a long response and then deleted it. Arguing the facts has become pointless. We all know the facts and we all know that the left refuses to look at the facts, no matter what. They've got to save Obama and his legacy at all costs. So it's not worth my time to try convincing them anymore. I used to act civil around the liberals but not anymore. I'm sick of this shit. So no more being nice to them. They're all idiots and now I just want to rub their faces in the truth so badly. Unfortunately, even if the facts do emerge, the left will just deny it to the grave. That is why I now want the death penalty for Obama when he's convicted of treason. The only way to get back at all the radical left is to execute the man they love for the crimes he committed. I don't even support the death penalty, but when it comes to Obama's treason, I do. It would be poetic justice. I would have been ok with Obama simply resigning in the past, but not now. Now I demand the ultimate punishment for his treason."
And today's Secret Service visit goes to…..
"★FALCON★ 127p · 1 hour ago
The part you may have missed is he and others give credence to the leftists that have no cognitive thinking ability and join the bandwagon.
Personally, I hope they do try to kill a few Birthers - I would love nothing more than to get this UnCivil War started.
If they fire the first shot - it's game on.
"Dealio · 18 minutes ago
One thing's for sure- with an illegal alien in th WH, anything anyone anywhere from government says, on any level, is an absolute joke and an out and out lie. Who's kidding who here? What could ever possibly trump an illegal alien from Kenya posing as a U.S. President? And doing it all while in our WH. Wow, we need to pull the plug on this side show Soetoro now."
"Pull the plug", eh??
"ThomasThePaine · 1 hour ago
There is no bigger enemy of the American People than Washington DC! That filthy place should be turned into a radioactive wasteland!"
Bloodthirsty git, isn't he?
11 January - George Miller is also pissed at Mike Malloy:
"Idiots like Malloy, who diss the Constitution and pretend to abhor guns, nonetheless want mass murders of their opponents."
Looks like James Yeager is no stranger to controversy. Long before his threats of terrorism he was accused of cowardice by his colleagues in ESRM while in Iraq as hired security
http://mountainrunner.us/2006/01/edinburgh_risk_/#.UPDEt_KGe3M
Posted by: Xyxox | January 11, 2013 at 07:30 PM
How long before James Yeager is arrested with a remote-controlled pink dildo in his . . . possession?
Posted by: Bob | January 12, 2013 at 07:00 AM
More Butterdezillion coverage please.
Posted by: Gary Miller | January 12, 2013 at 05:11 PM
Glad to hear that the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security has suspended the handgun carry permit of that irresponsible and emotionally immature James Yeager.
Posted by: G | January 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Seems as though Big Bob is as ignorant of history as birthers are of everything else. The "sleeping giant" quote is attributed to Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, of the Imperial Japanese Navy, upon learning that the Pearl Harbor attack had failed to destroy the U.S. carrier force. It comes from a 1970 movie, "Tora Tora Tora," and there is no other source for it, though given his knowledge of the United States, it is likely Yamamoto may have felt that way and could have said something similar.
Posted by: Greg Brown | January 14, 2013 at 01:48 PM
"See, Mr. Malloy, this is why you don't make stupid comments like that. Because you're dealing with a group of mentally unstable conspiracy nuts who LOVE to babble about "revolts", "military coups", "armed uprisings" and "second amendment solutions","
Get off your high horse Patrick. These idiots constantly call for the murder of elected representatives no matter what people like Malloy say about them.
I agree with Mallow - I would MUCH rather they kill themselves than be a violent threat to others. I don't feel guilty or wrong for telling them that either!!
Posted by: AC180 | January 15, 2013 at 05:36 PM
AC180 - Why should I lower myself to their level?
Posted by: Patrick McKinnion | January 15, 2013 at 05:42 PM
How can Malloy or ANYONE help OR hurt the situation? Doc Conspiracy has been the opposite, he's been very compassionate toward birthers and they would be just as happy to see him killed as Malloy.
Point is, Nothing you say or do can help or hurt ...
We're way past the point of repairing any divide
we have in America. Not going to happen.
Posted by: AC180 | January 15, 2013 at 05:46 PM
"AC180 - Why should I lower myself to their level?"
That's your mistaken assumption. They are calling
for innocent people to be murdered. Malloy was calling for would-be murderers to kill themselves.
I know, most of them aren't the type to actually go out and pull the trigger themselves but I believe most of them would be happy enough for someone else to do their dirty deeds ...
Posted by: AC180 | January 15, 2013 at 05:55 PM
"AC180 - Why should I lower myself to their level?"
One more thing, I agree with most of the positions you take -- Been reading your entertaining blog for years now. I just find it a bit hypocritical for you to make that kind of judgement on other Birther Bashers, as you've not been "above the fray" as far as mature rhetoric goes.
I say the chances are pretty low of America ever healing our political divide unless one side of the aisle TRULY takes a bold stand and follows Gandhi's method -- That is, if one side simply stops being offensive , stops name calling/deriding/etc -- That bit of maturity would provide a HUGE contrast to the other side who would continue to show ugliness and eventually the contrast would change a lot of minds.
Do I see that happening in America? Probably not but one can always hope. I'm certainly not doing my part to change things for the better and to be honest, you really aren't either. I still love your approach and writing and look forward to future installments here :)
Posted by: AC180 | January 15, 2013 at 06:07 PM
As long as we attack our opposition on a personal level. Degrade them in any capacity, we are simply creating a wedge.
No matter how much truth is on our side, how is it helping so long as we keep driving a wedge between us and the opposition? No matter how justified I feel about degrading these people (after all THEY ARE WRONG) -- the more I do it, the less likely chance I have of convincing them of their faults.
The solution would be to do something NEW (because what we have been doing SIMPLY ISN'T WORKING) .. Try to identify with the opposition -- They are human after all, we certainly have things in common. You aren't going to convince people to change if you only recognize and point out their faults.
Truth coupled with insult = weak. Truth coupled with encouragement = winner.
Posted by: AC180 | January 15, 2013 at 06:25 PM