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July 08, 2013


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The Magic M

> Based in natural law, the laws of nature and in the Law of Nations Treaty

I wonder which treaty the US signed that defined what a natural born citizen is, and with whom said treaty was made.

So we have another birther who confuses "treatise" with "treaty" but thinks he knows Constitutional law better than all the experts. Sounds familiar.


These guys are getting increasingly furious and desperate as time goes by, and their works are greeted with derision, ridicule, contempt, and hostility.

Which is why they're increasingly calling for violence. I don't fear a lynch mob coup storming the White House, rope in hand, but I am concerned that acolytes of these clowns may commit atrocities against innocent people.

Thomas Brown

" I don't fear a lynch mob coup storming the White House, rope in hand..."

Gee golly I wish they would. And maybe a couple hundred more should storm the Pentagon armed to the teeth with consumer-grade rifles and K-Mart shotguns. Just as long as there are no serious injuries to the loyal defenders of law and order.

Video at 11. Funerals this weekend.

Watering the Tree of Liberty goes both ways.


Do you have any knowledge of how long Dyer's prison sentence currently is? The man is not just a convicted child molester but someone who was apparently on his way towards committing domestic terrorism. Thankfully he was busted and his weapons cache found. If he ever gets out of prison, he's likely to attempt some stupid act of violence...

Atticus Finch

Courts have long recognized that the laws of citizenship in the United States has always been considered within the providence of municipal law and not international law or "Law of Nations".

"[E]ach government had a right to decide for itself who should be admitted or deemed citizens.” Inglis v. Trustees of Sailor's Snug Harbour in City of New York, 28 US 99, 162 (1830)

“Citizenship depends, however, entirely on municipal law and is not regulated by international law. Tomasicchio v. Acheson, 98 F. Supp. 166 , 169 (DC 1951)

Our concept of citizenship was inherited from England and, accordingly, was based on the principle that rights conferred by naturalization were subject to the conditions reserved in the grant. See Calvin's Case, 7 Co. Rep. 1 a, 77 Eng. Rep. 377 (1608). Schneider v. Rusk, 377 US 163, 170 (1964)

"Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship." Ruggiero v. Compania Peruana De Vapores "Inca Capac Yupanqui", 639 F.2d 872, 875 (2d Cir.1981)

“Citizenship is established by the laws of each individual country. Those laws are generally classified into two types: jus soli, in which citizenship is based on the place of birth, and jus sanguinis, in which citizenship is based on the citizenship of one (or both) parents.” Wauchope v. US Dept. of State, 756 F. Supp. 1277, 1283 (N.D. Cal 1991), affirmed , Wauchope v. US Dept. of State, 985 F. 2d 1407 (9th Cir. 1993)

As such, “It is an inherent right in each independent nation to determine for itself, and in accordance with its own laws, what persons may become its citizens and upon what terms. Naturalization is effected therefore, only in accordance with the municipal law of the country to which the foreign born person goes; that is, it is not dependent, in any way, upon the laws of the applicant's former country.”
“Aliens under Federal Laws of the United States, 3 Illinois Law Review 494 (1908

Thomas Brown

Aww, Pat.... You're no fun; you fell right over.

Just kidding. I know why you canned my last comment.

Patrick McKinnion

Thomas Brown - Nope, just a delay in approving messages :)

Thomas Brown

That's right... I forgot you actually have a life. Kudos!


what is it with Agenda 21, that gets your average right wing crazy so so upset? And yet fails to bother anyone else? Does the UN get commission on blood pressure medication perhaps - they should, since they seem to generate a lot of consumption?

Glory be, can the crazies just sit down....


It's a dog-whistle, Greenfinches. Like the Protocols of Zion to a neo-fascist.

Robert C. Laity

"There is NO 'President' Obama":

The removal of a Usurper by the Military is not a coup. Obama has never been the bona-fides POTUS/CIC. His usurpation during time of war subjects Obama to Military Court Martial as a spy.Obama is also a traitor.

See: UCMJ at S906.106. Also see: 18USC,Part 1,Chapter 115,Sec.2381.

Patrick McKinnion

Robert C. Laity - I don't quite know which is more pathetic:

The fact you're parroting the same long-since debunked claims, despite repeatedly been told AND PROVEN that you're wrong here, at Dr. C's, and many, many, many places.

The fact you're citing the Pest and eFail as "proof" to back up your debunked claim. A Pest and eFail article that you yourself wrote as a "letter to the editor" - and was published there over three years ago.

Or the fact that you're posting your long-debunked claims in a two and a half month old article of a blog that retired from the birther scene a month and a half ago.


To Robert Laity:

I am a West Point Graduate. More than a dozen of my classmates are currently active duty General Officers. Be forewarned:

The US Military will kill or capture any and all seditious traitors who attempt an overthrow of the freely and fairly elected President of the United States, Barack Obama.


Stephen G Thomas 64

Sure, Bobbie, any day now, LOL! What will you do when President Obama's second term ends and you will have even less of a life than you have now? Spend hours whining about Former President Obama? When even fewer people will care what you have to say? Lol, you're quite the loser, Bobbie.

By the way, how are your "criminal complaints" working out for you?

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